ICE murdered an innocent woman

[TheGreatGreen]

Is it part of the Constitution to leave our borders wide open for 4 years straight?

Total deportations during Trump presidency:
About 1.5 million to 2.1 million people

Total deportations during Biden's presidency:
About 4.4 million people


Try again. This time without only watching Fox News.

 

[Robostyle]

Total deportations during Trump presidency:
About 1.5 million to 2.1 million people

Total deportations during Biden's presidency:
About 4.4 million people


Try again. This time without only watching Fox News.

I have never watched fox news in my life. Wrong again.
Biden = 4 years
Trump= only been 1 year.
Not sure what point you were trying to illustrate here, but i'd say that you failed to do so.

 

[Robostyle]

Answer the question-
Why is it ok for an officer to shoot me?

 

[TheGreatGreen]

AMENDMENT XIV

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive ANY PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to ANY PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

There, I emphasized the text that's actually relevant to the discussion.

The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution is like a shield that protects people from unfair treatment by the federal government. This is especially true if they’re accused of a crime. It’s a vital part of the Bill of Rights, which guarantees important freedoms to Americans. This amendment covers crucial rights such as the right to a fair trial, not being forced to testify against yourself, and ensuring that no one can be tried for the same crime twice.

Oh look, you didn't include the ACTUAL TEXT of the 5th Amendment. Here let me help.

5th Amendment:
No PERSON shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any PERSON be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


If you're going to argue, at least do it honestly.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

I have never watched fox news in my life. Wrong again.
Biden = 4 years
Trump= only been 1 year.
Not sure what point you were trying to illustrate here, but i'd say that you failed to do so.

Did you forget about those 4-years that Trump was president the first time?

 

[Findthetone1]

There, I emphasized the text that's actually relevant to the discussion.



Oh look, you didn't include the ACTUAL TEXT of the 5th Amendment. Here let me help.

5th Amendment:
No PERSON shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any PERSON be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


If you're going to argue, at least do it honestly.

Since you seem to be so focused on this, what makes you think they are being denied Due Process?

 

[TheGreatGreen]

Answer the question-
Why is it ok for an officer to shoot me?

I don't accept the logical fallacy here.

You are trying to draw a false equivalency between pointing a loaded gun at an officer and turning your wheels away from an officer and driving your car in a different direction while the officer was not in the path of the car and could (and did) easily step out of the way.

Specifically:

Justice Department policy says deadly force is allowed only when no reasonable alternative exists, including stepping out of the vehicle's path. Also, police policies generally state officers cannot use deadly force solely to arrest someone or to disable a fleeing vehicle if the person does not pose an immediate threat.


Totally different from policy regarding firearms. If you point a gun at a cop, expect to be killed immediately, and lawfully so.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

I have never watched fox news in my life. Wrong again.
Biden = 4 years
Trump= only been 1 year.
Not sure what point you were trying to illustrate here, but i'd say that you failed to do so.

Do I have to do all the thinking for you people?

YOU implied Biden had a boarders open policy when you said "Is it part of the Constitution to leave our borders wide open for 4 years straight?"and I showed that you are full of shit, that Biden has actually deported more people than Trump.

 

[NoHassle]

There, I emphasized the text that's actually relevant to the discussion.



Oh look, you didn't include the ACTUAL TEXT of the 5th Amendment. Here let me help.

5th Amendment:
No PERSON shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any PERSON be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


If you're going to argue, at least do it honestly.

You fuckwit...it is clearly defined for US citizens and not aliens unless it is clearly stated.

They state up front US citizens and thereafter use any person...

Typical Democrat bending it to suit.

You either enter the US legally and when you do you agree to be under the laws of the US and will be treated as such.

If you're a diplomat you do NOT have to be treated under US law.

Your argument ONLY has legs if they entered LEGALLY through immigration control.

Do you get it or you're still in denial.

 

[Findthetone1]

Do I have to do all the thinking for you people?

YOU implied Biden had a boarders open policy when you said "Is it part of the Constitution to leave our borders wide open for 4 years straight?"and I showed that you are full of shit, that Biden has actually deported more people than Trump.

I think you are missing the big picture here:

 

[TheGreatGreen]

You fuckwit...it is clearly defined for US citizens and not aliens unless it is clearly stated.

Completely fucking wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. And wrong. You are wrong.

They state up front US citizens and thereafter use any person...

Incorrect assumption. If they meant "citizens" they would have said "citizens." They don't even say anything like "referring to citizens as persons henceforth" in any part.

Typical Democrat bending it to suit.

Wrong. Typical conservative fascist bending their wish for what the law was to suit.

You either enter the US legally and when you do you agree to be under the laws of the US and will be treated as such.

Again, the facts don't care about your feelings. The US Constitution applies to all people within the boarders of the county.

Your argument ONLY has legs if they entered LEGALLY through immigration control.

Do you get it or you're still in denial.

Incorrect. Not true. Wrong. That's plain and simply not what the law states, no matter how much you want that to be the case.

 

[The Blazing Saddle]

@TheGreatGreenNewDeal is back! Typical shitlib sticking up for illegals. What a faggot.

 

[Robostyle]

Did you forget about those 4-years that Trump was president the first time?

Did you forget to say you were including his first term?
Read your post, you said " Trump Presidency". Not " Trump Presidencies".
That's not on me, you are already playing semantic games.

Not sure where you are getting that 4.4 million number for biden.
Not sure it even matters kicking out 4 million when you're letting in 10- 20 million. And flying them to red states in the middle of the night.

 

[Robostyle]

I don't accept the logical fallacy here.

You won't answer the question because you know you're wrong. The only fallacy is you saying "turning your wheels away".
Have you ever driven on ice? Meaning frozen water

 

[TheGreatGreen]

Did you forget to say you were including his first term?
Read your post, you said " Trump Presidency". Not " Trump Presidencies".
That's not on me, you are already playing semantic games.

What? Everyone knows Trump has been president once before and is currently. It's not necessary. Yes, those figures account for everything from Biden and everything so far from Trump.

And Biden flying them to red states in the middle of the night.

Typical facebook conspiracy theory "accuse the enemy of that which you are guilty" conservative nonsense. Zero proof of that ever happening, unlike how it's fully documented that Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott transported illegal aliens all around the country.

Then again if maga conservatives were capable of being intellectually honest and congruent with themselves, they would cease to exist because they'd be something else.

 

[Robostyle]

Typical facebook conspiracy theory "accuse the enemy of that which you are guilty" conservative nonsense. Zero proof of that ever happening, unlike how Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott transported illegal aliens all around the country.

I have never been on Facebook, wrong again. I saw videos of it, read about it too. It did happen.

 

[Robostyle]

 

[TheGreatGreen]

You won't answer the question because you know you're wrong. The only fallacy is you saying "turning your wheels away".
Have you ever driven on ice? Meaning frozen water

That's funny, if you look right above these posts, you can see I answered both questions, and I say both because they're not the same thing, and I answered both. To claim they're the same means you're either being intentionally dishonest or are too dumb to understand the differences.

 

[Findthetone1]

That's funny, if you look right above these posts, you can see I answered both questions, and I say both because they're not the same thing, and I answered both. To claim they're the same means you're either being intentionally dishonest or are too dumb to understand the differences.

You going to answer any of my questions? Or just avoid them like you usually do?

 

[Robostyle]

That's funny, if you look right above these posts, you can see I answered both questions, and I say both because they're not the same thing, and I answered both. To claim they're the same means you're either being intentionally dishonest or are too dumb to understand the differences.

Have you ever driven a car on frozen water? Yes or No?
It seems like you don't want to answer simple questions. Kind of like that Doctor who would not answer the "can men get pregnant" question.
If you really did want "reasonable discussion", you would simply answer the question. That is what a discussion is.