Is a Marshall JVM205H a good amp?

[9ball]

DSL50 is the model... which is part of the JCM2000 series of amps. Like the 2203 was part of the JCM800 series of amps.

Get a DSL50. Great amp.

not all of them are "jcm2000". they were discontinued for awhile, and the new ones are just "DSL" whatever

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

DSL50 is the model... which is part of the JCM2000 series of amps. Like the 2203 was part of the JCM800 series of amps.

Get a DSL50. Great amp.

not all of them are "jcm2000". they were discontinued for awhile, and the new ones are just "DSL" whatever

I did not know that!

So... Get an older JCM2000 DSL50 with Drake OT annd enjoy! Gotta love that Vietnamese quality.

 

[sg guy]

-not sure about the the dropping of the 2000 Sig, the Vietnam ones have the "H" at the end

-DSL100H-(etc.)-

 

[9ball]

DSL50 is the model... which is part of the JCM2000 series of amps. Like the 2203 was part of the JCM800 series of amps.

Get a DSL50. Great amp.

not all of them are "jcm2000". they were discontinued for awhile, and the new ones are just "DSL" whatever

I did not know that!

So... Get an older JCM2000 DSL50 with Drake OT annd enjoy! Gotta love that Vietnamese quality.

yeahp. jcm2000's are the older ones made in england. mercury magnetics transformers are good too i think?

 

[9ball]

-not sure about the the dropping of the 2000 Sig, the Vietnam ones have the "H" at the end

-DSL100H-(etc.)-

that's it - the "H" - i forgot about that

 

[thiswaythatway]

I had a 410 and gigged with a few times. I agree that the DSL series are better sounding amps. The JVMs aren't horrible sounding by any means, but they do have a sterile, almost digital sounding tonal quality, imho.

I agree somewhat but I think it's just because it has a LOT of preamp gain. But when the gain is set high it's noisey and the gain lower and I thought it thinned a bit. I never bonded with the JVM but it works for other guys. I'd just go with an older DSL and pedals.

 

[Racerxrated]

I'm very much confused when it comes to the amp world. From what I gather about Marshalls, most Marshall guys are like Harley Davidson owners. If it don't have that signature Harley sound, it ain't a Harley. I've heard people say the silver Jubilee doesn't sound like a Marshall either.

I know I want a Marshall, and my goal is to achieve a tone similar to Nuno, Demartini, EVH, etc. should I look more at the Jubilee or the JVM? Remember that I'm also a beginner at gigging, so I will need something that can handle smaller gigs. I don't really want a combo. I also don't have tons of money to work with.

Jubilee all day over the JVM and any version of the DSL. The older DSL(JCM 2000) are decent but many had a board problem with a connector that would overheat. The Jubilee vintage or reissue is a great amp that boosted will hang with any modded vintage Marshall. I've played JVMs(thin sounding) and owned DSLs, Jubilee is a more open and full sounding amp with better articulation than a DSL. And yes they can easily be a 2 channel amp with a nice clean channel and a good loop. IMO. YMMV.

 

[Mr. Willy]

I had a 410 and gigged with a few times. I agree that the DSL series are better sounding amps. The JVMs aren't horrible sounding by any means, but they do have a sterile, almost digital sounding tonal quality, imho.

I agree somewhat but I think it's just because it has a LOT of preamp gain. But when the gain is set high it's noisey and the gain lower and I thought it thinned a bit. I never bonded with the JVM but it works for other guys. I'd just go with an older DSL and pedals.

Yeah, it's got a ton of gain. To be clear, I don't think it sounded bad at all. It was very compressed and pretty noisy. It did sound good when dialed in right. I just don't need four channels with three modes each and a six button footswitch. It was too complicated during the heat of battle for me. I guess I'm a simple man, or at least something you love and understand...sorry, had to. My buddy had an older DSL about 10 years ago, and I remember that amp sounding pretty darn good.

 

[KissMyAmps]

The DSL50 JCM2000 is more in my price range. I read about the overheating problem on this forum, but I've read that Marshall fixed this problem on the more recent models. All I've got now is a crappy little MG100hdfx, which I guess works ok for bedroom. I use it my band practice now because its all I have. For hard rock, it just doesn't cut through the mix. You can't hear me when the band kicks in.

 

[SavageRiffer]

I personally prefer the 410, but the 205 is equally good in tone. It seems like the 410 actually has the best tone from low to high volume. I had a 205 but it needed to be a little louder to get the goods. The 210 is the 205 with 4 power tubes, but I haven't had enough play time to tell you much about that model specifically. I would imagine it's the same story with the 410 which also holds true with the DSL100 which is the 100w Marshalls seem to sound better at lower volume ranges than the 50w Marshalls. At mid volume, the 50w Marshalls open up a lot and can yield good tone like Schenker used to get. That's my take.

 

[atrox]

I had a Voodoo modded 410H for a little bit. MM transformers and some circuit tweaking, but it still always had that "processed" sound. I had it stock for a couple months and the mod made it better, but still not my thing. They are not loud at all either. I found the crunch channel to be muddy on all three settings and the clean channel was weak sounding. I sold that after a year or so and went back to my 2203 i was using at the time. I did love the switching and tonal options, i just wish those tones where better.

Devil's advocate here... I have a new DSL100H. I got it for free as payment for a recording session, but I like it quite a bit more than the JCM2000 DSL100 I used for 4 or 5 years in the early 2000's. The reverb sucks dick (digital), but it sounds better at lower volumes, seems to be slightly more aggressive and the resonance knob is way better than the old Deep switch.

As far as build quality goes, it doesn't seem much different just from everyday use (i have not opened it, but the old ones were not that great to begin with. My JCM2000 kept on blowing power tubes every 4 or 5 months) . Looks and feels like the old JCM2000 to me in terms of quality.

FWIW, i recently saw a video where Nuno was using new DSL's and it sounded like Nuno.

 

[9ball]

It did sound good when dialed in right.

i agree i don't see the problem with them lol....i have my presence down almost all the way and just barely bring the gains up until i have what i want. they're all under half except for channel 2 lol... mine isn't noisy though guess i got lucky i've read that alot

 

[Fordman65]

"Is the JVM a good amp?"

Hahahahaha. Um, no. No it is not IMO.

 

[lespaul6]

I have a 1998 DSL 100 with the latest revision power board and I just put a 3 henry plexi choke on it... I play demartini style and this amp will do that. Just buy a DSL from 2006 onward and you will have a good one with the revised board. You have to turn them up or you will be hearing only the preamp before its rounded off by the power section- that's not how the amp was intended to be used. Ive seen demartini use one of these live and it sounded great. Their cheap and fun to play around with.

 

[dfrattaroli]

I had a 210 and sold it because I thought the loop sucked. And no, it didn't sound like a vintage Marshall. But I liked it. Way more preamp gain than an old Marshall.

Now I have a 2000 JCM 2000 DSL. I modified the main board to fix the bias drift issue and then added a Hammond Choke and swapped out the stock OT. I also did the "Fortin" mods. It's really sweet now. More gain on tap. Probably too much. I just haven't had the time to go back in and dial that back a bit. I do have a new replacement board just in case but now I'm thinking of just buying another DSL just to have to tinker with.

They're cheap, sound great and despite what a lot of people say, are reliable. They're used in so many backlines and studios.

Dave

 

[KissMyAmps]

So it's down to the JCM2000 DSL50 or the Silver Jubilee for me. For the sound I'm going for (Nuno, EVH, Demartini, Lynch, etc.), which of these should I get?

 

[9ball]

So it's down to the JCM2000 DSL50 or the Silver Jubilee for me. For the sound I'm going for (Nuno, EVH, Demartini, Lynch, etc.), which of these should I get?

go try them in a store and decide for yourself. people on these forums talk all kinds of shit about pretty much everything and is pretty much worth about a grain of salt lol