IS FAUSTINE OUT OF BUSINESS???

[stephen sawall]

It is difficult to keep a company moving right now with the economy. I mean look at how slow everything is moving. World over when a new high-end guitar product comes out from a smaller company like this you are looking at selling 150 is normal. A few more or less is not uncommon. After that wave the sales slows down a lot. Do the math .... it is all a risk. We are a very small group in a world of about 7 billion. To be honest I am surprised we have not seen several more of these smaller company's go under in the last few years....

 

[Shark Diver]

There are some big ones struggling as well. Wasn't too long ago that PRS almost lost their new place due to default. Guitar Center was on the brink. etc..
All you have to do is look at the last couple of NAMM rosters. Cut backs everywhere.
Not just the small guys.

 

[verderacer]

Yea, I imagine the coming NAMM is gonna be a bit thinner too...

 

[Rogue]

Off the top of my head? Sure. The X88 and X99. Spoken to Mike about this at length. Parts became so expensive that the only way to stay competitive would have been to use less expensive parts. He chose not to do that. The demand is still there - at the right price.

I was referring to his hero, Mark Cameron. The guy who's business model failed miserably but had a product that was high in demand. It's odd he seemed confused that Brad and Rob would look into a similar situation with Faustine.

 

[Rogue]

Also, each amp Mark built was customized, the Fantom isn't.

Production CCVs are not customized to my knowledge.

Not sure of the Cameron high demand you speak of... Look around before you answer.

The production runs had a greater number of people in line than the CCV production runs, for reference.

I know you are a Cameron fanboy, but you appear to be going out of your way to not understand why Brad and Rob would look into acquiring Faustine when it is a fantastically simple premise...one that played out with Brad/Cameron already.

 

[ejecta]

Also, each amp Mark built was customized, the Fantom isn't.

Production CCVs are not customized to my knowledge.

Not sure of the Cameron high demand you speak of... Look around before you answer.

The production runs had a greater number of people in line than the CCV production runs, for reference.

I know you are a Cameron fanboy, but you appear to be going out of your way to not understand why Brad and Rob would look into acquiring Faustine when it is a fantastically simple premise...one that played out with Brad/Cameron already.

Because there is a Cameron attenuator in the works.

 

[Rogue]

I'm not going out of my way at all... and you're right, it is fantastically simple. They already have a Cameron Attenuator in the works... one with, they all claim, sounds BETTER than the Faustine and will cost less than 1/2 the Faustine cost. Based on my knowledge about business, they probably have a 300% mark up as well, so selling a cheaper, better unit is win-win and more profitable for them.

Well, not really, and it would appear Brad and Rob both thought it was worthy to look into and consider.

I'm sure you believe the Cameron attenuator will be the be all end all, but it won't. People are still going to buy other units and some are going to buy top of the line units. There is a market for both and it is quite reasonable for Brad and Rob to look into it and seeing if they can profit from both markets while providing two solutions to consumers.

Your opinion as well as others as to whether it's a "better unit" is just that....an opinion. Your opinion will mean shit to other people seeking solutions to their own rigs.

I hope they do, or someone else does, because it's a nice product.

I'm actually a Marshall fanboy.

Modded Marshalls with ass loads of gain aren't really Marshalls.

 

[Rogue]

We see it differently.

Brad and Rob, successful businessmen, saw it differently than you as well. Whether or not they concluded it to be a worthwhile effort is one thing, to have some confusion over why they looked into it is strange.

 

[Digital Jams]

Not for nothing but 95% of this forum uses mv amps anyways so I do not see the big fuss regarding who is building what attenuator

I have a THD that Ed D hooked me up with when I need one, good enough for me.

 

[Rogue]

Not for nothing but 95% of this forum uses mv amps anyways so I do not see the big fuss regarding who is building what attenuator

I could be mistaken, but I would assume Brad and Rob wouldn't prefer to limit their client base to Rig Talk alone.

 

[killertone]

Couldn't agree more. I have no idea why anyone with an amp that has shitloads of preamp gain or a diode clipping circuit would want to use an attenuator.

I am in the market for one myself but it is for my '73 PTP Superlead, '65 Bassman, and Metro 50 watt Superlead.

 

[Digital Jams]

Not for nothing but 95% of THIS forum uses mv amps anyways so I do not see the big fuss regarding who is building what attenuator

I could be mistaken, but I would assume Brad and Rob wouldn't prefer to limit their client base to Rig Talk alone.

I highlighted a word to help you

 

[mentoneman]

Couldn't agree more. I have no idea why anyone with an amp that has shitloads of preamp gain or a diode clipping circuit would want to use an attenuator.

I am in the market for one myself but it is for my '73 PTP Superlead, '65 Bassman, and Metro 50 watt Superlead.

i used my hotplate with my eggie tol 100, mojave coyote, and carol ann 18 watter, and currently use it with my fender super champ XD and my mojave peeacemaker because i can get better results from my amps when i juice up the power section to dial in a fatter more natural midrange and smother high end, reduce the amount of preamp/pedal gain, and make the speaker move a different way, instead of lowering the amp volume and trying to use the tone controls. and the line out is great for level matching post amp effects.

i had a very early sharpie labeled komet airbrake for a few years, and tried the ultimate attenuator and rivera rock crusher. the UA sounded really nice with my coyote and a germino masonette, but was an early model that looked to be assembled by pouring a bottle of rubber cement in a junk drawer and shaking for 5 seconds. at the moment i'd opt for the rivera but would love to see what the cameron is about too...i think the fan died in my hotplate-i never hear it spinning but i don't tax it much with superchamp on 4 and the hp on -4. it has served me well.

 

[dooredge]

As "who-is" search is always a nice way to obtain an address/ph # on these small bizs taking advantage of its customers.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... neamps.com

 

[killertone]

As "who-is" search is always a nice way to obtain an address/ph # on these small bizs taking advantage of its customers.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... neamps.com

Whammo.

 

[Digital Jams]

Couldn't agree more. I have no idea why anyone with an amp that has shitloads of preamp gain or a diode clipping circuit would want to use an attenuator.

I am in the market for one myself but it is for my '73 PTP Superlead, '65 Bassman, and Metro 50 watt Superlead.

i used my hotplate with my eggie tol 100, mojave coyote, and carol ann 18 watter, and currently use it with my fender super champ XD and my mojave peeacemaker because i can get better results from my amps when i juice up the power section to dial in a fatter more natural midrange and smother high end, reduce the amount of preamp/pedal gain, and make the speaker move a different way, instead of lowering the amp volume and trying to use the tone controls. and the line out is great for level matching post amp effects.

i had a very early sharpie labeled komet airbrake for a few years, and tried the ultimate attenuator and rivera rock crusher. the UA sounded really nice with my coyote and a germino masonette, but was an early model that looked to be assembled by pouring a bottle of rubber cement in a junk drawer and shaking for 5 seconds. at the moment i'd opt for the rivera but would love to see what the cameron is about too...i think the fan died in my hotplate-i never hear it spinning but i don't tax it much with superchamp on 4 and the hp on -4. it has served me well.

You would be one of those 5% Pat as you are looking for very specific things and you have always been in the power amp break-up camp. I do not think I will ever see you attenuating a Herbert on channel 3 anytime soon

 

[mentoneman]

You would be one of those 5% Pat as you are looking for very specific things and you have always been in the power amp break-up camp. I do not think I will ever see you attenuating a Herbert on channel 3 anytime soon

true my friend. the gyrations i go through to precisely control and more importantly approve of what i hear as a soundman and player could be construed as insanity, but results i get via feedback from others i respect tells me i am on the right track.

the herbert is a great amp but it, like the vht d120, and cae od100, are of a camp that for my tastes are a tad overwhelming, or better put, lack specific feel and tone elements and controls i desire.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Not for nothing but 95% of this forum uses mv amps anyways so I do not see the big fuss regarding who is building what attenuator

I have to admit I thought about trying an attenuator with my 2203/4. I thought maybe I could wind the MV up higher at lower levels.

 

[Gainfreak]

Couldn't agree more. I have no idea why anyone with an amp that has shitloads of preamp gain or a diode clipping circuit would want to use an attenuator.

I am in the market for one myself but it is for my '73 PTP Superlead, '65 Bassman, and Metro 50 watt Superlead.

Have Mike build you one.

 

[blackba]

I'm not going out of my way at all... and you're right, it is fantastically simple. They already have a Cameron Attenuator in the works... one with, they all claim, sounds BETTER than the Faustine and will cost less than 1/2 the Faustine cost. Based on my knowledge about business, they probably have a 300% mark up as well, so selling a cheaper, better unit is win-win and more profitable for them.

I'm actually a Marshall fanboy.

The one big minus in my eyes with the Cameron Attenuator is the lack of a 4ohm output. The Faustine unit had that, which with my being a vintage Fender fan was a must have. I do see a reason to be managing production of both units myself.

Since you are a Marshall guy, you could care less about a 4ohm output.