I've heard one blues song: I get it

[glpg80]

 

[Scumback Speakers]

So you're axing axemeaquestion a question.

I have a day job.

Ok, just wanted to know if you were going to blaze trails with guitar where others haven't gone before, sort of like the blues genre you just dismissed out of hand with one statement who did. So I won't hold my breath waiting for your playing as the "next prog rock guitar god".

If you had done your research on this subject before you posted, you'd know rock progressed from the blues, including your progressive rock preference.

While you can certainly have your opinion, and post it for people to call you out on, you've probably alienated a large portion of this forum with your first post on this thread.

Then again, maybe when the sunlight hits you tomorrow you'll turn to stone.

Good luck rebounding from this thread with the members here, IMO. You haven't done yourself a favor, IMO.

Note: this is all my opinion having surfed the net/forums since 2002. I could be way off base!

 

[axemeaquestion]

So you're axing axemeaquestion a question.

I have a day job.

Ok, just wanted to know if you were going to blaze trails with guitar where others haven't gone before, sort of like the blues genre you just dismissed out of hand with one statement who did. So I won't hold my breath waiting for your playing as the "next prog rock guitar god".

If you had done your research on this subject before you posted, you'd know rock progressed from the blues, including your progressive rock preference.

While you can certainly have your opinion, and post it for people to call you out on, you've probably alienated a large portion of this forum with your first post on this thread.

Then again, maybe when the sunlight hits you tomorrow you'll turn to stone.

Good luck rebounding from this thread with the members here, IMO. You haven't done yourself a favor, IMO.

Note: this is all my opinion having surfed the net/forums since 2002. I could be way off base!

Yes, rock progressed from blues. Progressed from. That means it's better, more advanced, etc. It didn't regress from blues. It progressed from it.

I'm not sure why any of you ladies would be so upset. I've not attacked any of you personally, merely a style of music I don't like and find to be rather limiting. Surely you can handle that without getting your panties all bunched up.

 

[Scumback Speakers]

Eh, most of the prog rock leaves me cold, quite frankly. There are exceptions, which is why I don't make blanket statements like "I've heard one Dream Theater, etc song: I get it..."

Maybe you understand it from that point of view better. But now you're calling us ladies? Your original post was kind of bitchy, IMO...hopefully that doesn't twist your thong too hard in your bunghole.

 

[chunktone]

rare, that first tune sounds like the ramblings of a senile guy using a newspaper to keep warm. I will say that I did find it difficult to jam along with. So in that sense, it's on a slightly higher plane than your average blues.

I'm sure this is not the only thing you find difficult to jam along to.
You are just revealing how truly ignorant you are. But, you will remain in your current state until YOU decide to learn. You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal. You don't have to like this, but it is true. Your original statement could be made(in ignorance) about any style of music.

 

[axemeaquestion]

rare, that first tune sounds like the ramblings of a senile guy using a newspaper to keep warm. I will say that I did find it difficult to jam along with. So in that sense, it's on a slightly higher plane than your average blues.

I'm sure this is not the only thing you find difficult to jam along to.
You are just revealing how truly ignorant you are. But, you will remain in your current state until YOU decide to learn. You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal. You don't have to like this, but it is true. Your original statement could be made(in ignorance) about any style of music.

Based on your logic, Justin Bieber is the greatest artist of our generation. After all, he's even more known than BB King.

You don't have to like this, but it's true.

 

[Shark Diver]

I realize that EVERYONE on this forum thinks Holmes is a troll. And he likely is.

But over all of the years I've lurked this place all I see are 80's-era Metalheads and shredders post stuff about what they love (I'm an 80's guy myself).

Can you see the pack mentality of this place?

One guy says blues is predictable and EVERY ONE OF YOU pile on?

You guys dont listen to blues. Yeah, you can appreciate it. But you dont listen to it.

Same with Keith Urban or Django.


Pack mentality keeps me from ever caring much about forums.

Cant you see it?

As Steve said - How the Hell do you know what I listen to? It's not as much a pack mentality as a group of people who have a decent forum to exchange ideas in a mature way and take offense to a trolling butt-munch making ignorant generalizations about an art form they can't possibly understand because of the fog of stupidity they have enveloped themselves in. It changes the tone of the forum and fucks it up for the rest of us.

 

[axemeaquestion]

You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal.

Anyone who gets Holdsworth gets the blues. But not everyone who gets the blues gets Holdsworth.

 

[rupe]

You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal.

Anyone who gets Holdsworth gets the blues. But not everyone who gets the blues gets Holdsworth.

You're living, typing proff that that's not true. If you "got" the blues you would at least appreciate its contributions to music as we know it, whether or not you actually liked it. Your blanket dismissal is steeped in ignorance of the many facets of the genre...akin to claiming King Krimson, Genesis, and Rush were all the same.

 

[axemeaquestion]

You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal.

Anyone who gets Holdsworth gets the blues. But not everyone who gets the blues gets Holdsworth.

You're living, typing proff that that's not true. If you "got" the blues you would at least appreciate its contributions to music as we know it, whether or not you actually liked it. Your blanket dismissal is steeped in ignorance of the many facets of the genre...akin to claiming King Krimson, Genesis, and Rush were all the same.

I never said that the blues didn't make contributions to other genres of music. I occasionally use that tired, overused scale myself, although only rarely.

What are all these "facets" of the genre? You're taking something simple and trying to make it complex.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Nerd Alert...sounds like someone hit a high score on a video game...no soul...

His song selection on that DVD was very poor. He has a fair amount of subpar stuff in his catalog, yet the stuff that shines, shines brighter than the star that led the three Kings (not Albert, BB, and Freddie) to Jesus.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Notice the common thread in my videos is the soulfulness

The soulfulness? Uh, the boringness.

Cripes, he even has to make the face moves, as if it were a "facet" of the genre that influences the music in ways that I couldn't possibly understand.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Nerd Alert...sounds like someone hit a high score on a video game...no soul...

His song selection on that DVD was very poor. He has a fair amount of subpar stuff in his catalog, yet the stuff that shines, shines brighter than the star that led the three Kings (not Albert, BB, and Freddie) to Jesus.

holdsworth shouldnt be in the same sentence as the three kings...

Uh, you just violated your own rule....

 

[thiswaythatway]

That's based on the premise that if you've heard one blues song, you've heard them all.

And it's pretty much true. I'll give you that SRV was tremendous and took the genre about as far as it could go, but beyond that, it's pretty much jamming and noodling.

Let's face it. You can pretty much play any blues song on your stereo (that's like an ipod for you younger shredders) and jam along with it immediately. If that's a feature of the music, then the music isn't very advanced, ergo, it's no good.

It's flat ridiculous to dismiss an entire genre of music as "no good" because you can jam to it immediately. Why does music have to be "advanced" to be good? Also, just because anyone can mindlessly meander over a blues progression in the pentatonic box, doesn't mean that the artists that have mastered blues playing aren't every bit as great as Holdsworth just because of his different technical ability. It's music, not some ridiculous competition to see who can make the most complex, dissonant, technique heavy composition. Also, I could easily jam to a Holdsworth backing track. Hell... put anything up there and I can jam to it. Doesn't prove anything...

You're applying your subjective opinion of the music to dismiss it and to a great blues player that might be pretty offensive...

No, I'll take my Allan Holdsworth, thank you very much.

You can have him. I'd rather have a root canal with no anesthesia than sit through an entire Holdsworth gig... While I recognize the amazing dedication it took to put together his incredible technique, the music does nothing for me after one song.

Of course, that is my subjective opinion of his music and is not a dismissal of his music, or the entire genre of music he is part of. See how that works?

Steve

I posted something similiar about Holdsworth but didn't feel the need to bring him into th discussion. But yes, I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to Holdsworth's music. His technical playing is amazing but his music is beyod horrid. IMHO

 

[Heritage Softail]

Chicago, Delta, Texas, black gospel blues, classic rock blues, metal blues. All different flavors of the blues pizza.

A few of the major types. Buy any disc of blues jam tracks and there should be a few of each. The blues metal seems to be as much about timing and alternate scale selections with that timely placed blue note. If you really give a shit, try and play differently over each style. They are different and show how the one genre has widened to include influences of other popular styles. The blues could be seen as a mutt IMO.

One genre of music is not better than any other, any more than one race of people is better than the other.

Good trolling. You have quickly made most peoples 'dumb ass list'.

 

[King Guitar]

rare, that first tune sounds like the ramblings of a senile guy using a newspaper to keep warm. I will say that I did find it difficult to jam along with. So in that sense, it's on a slightly higher plane than your average blues.

I'm sure this is not the only thing you find difficult to jam along to.
You are just revealing how truly ignorant you are. But, you will remain in your current state until YOU decide to learn. You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal. You don't have to like this, but it is true. Your original statement could be made(in ignorance) about any style of music.

Based on your logic, Justin Bieber is the greatest artist of our generation. After all, he's even more known than BB King.

You don't have to like this, but it's true.

Finally someone says the truth here! Justin Bieber is the worlds greatest musician of any generation and his style transcends all genres. Damn Right!

 

[johnnyjellybean]

You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal.

Anyone who gets Holdsworth gets the blues. But not everyone who gets the blues gets Holdsworth.

Junior, when you can play blues like this guy, then I'll respect your opinion on the blues. Solo starts at 2:09 and incidently, this guy hangs right with Holdsworth in that style and even knows him personally very well.

 

[axemeaquestion]

You mentioned Holdsworth. BB King is a household name, but almost no one knows who Alan Holdsworth is. Blues has a much broader appeal.

Anyone who gets Holdsworth gets the blues. But not everyone who gets the blues gets Holdsworth.

Junior, when you can play blues like this guy, then I'll respect your opinion on the blues. Solo starts at 2:09 and incidently, this guy hangs right with Holdsworth in that style and even knows him personally very well.

Did you listen to the backing chords during the solo? Wow!!! So fresh and innovative!!! Er, yeah.

Is the guy a good guitar player? Sure. He's got chops but it's not different to any large degree. All the modern players have chops that were rare a generation ago. How could you listen to the whole song and think it's something different?

At least there were't any cookie monster vox on that track.

 

[axemeaquestion]

That's based on the premise that if you've heard one blues song, you've heard them all.

And it's pretty much true. I'll give you that SRV was tremendous and took the genre about as far as it could go, but beyond that, it's pretty much jamming and noodling.

Let's face it. You can pretty much play any blues song on your stereo (that's like an ipod for you younger shredders) and jam along with it immediately. If that's a feature of the music, then the music isn't very advanced, ergo, it's no good.

It's flat ridiculous to dismiss an entire genre of music as "no good" because you can jam to it immediately. Why does music have to be "advanced" to be good? Also, just because anyone can mindlessly meander over a blues progression in the pentatonic box, doesn't mean that the artists that have mastered blues playing aren't every bit as great as Holdsworth just because of his different technical ability. It's music, not some ridiculous competition to see who can make the most complex, dissonant, technique heavy composition. Also, I could easily jam to a Holdsworth backing track. Hell... put anything up there and I can jam to it. Doesn't prove anything...

You're applying your subjective opinion of the music to dismiss it and to a great blues player that might be pretty offensive...

No, I'll take my Allan Holdsworth, thank you very much.

You can have him. I'd rather have a root canal with no anesthesia than sit through an entire Holdsworth gig... While I recognize the amazing dedication it took to put together his incredible technique, the music does nothing for me after one song.

Of course, that is my subjective opinion of his music and is not a dismissal of his music, or the entire genre of music he is part of. See how that works?

Steve

His technical playing is amazing but his music is beyod horrid. IMHO

S, you just bad-mouthed a professional musician in an internet forum. You also called music bad. Now everyone's gonna hate your lungs.*

*I still luvs ya tho, bro

 

[japetus]

I think axemeaquestion is right on the money.