that wouldn’t be so bad if he got it and used it to go to 5150,Oh, it will go to a collector Mentoneman. Dave Friedman may be bidding on it.
After my aforementioned proposed 12301/12302 side by side comparison, Joe would be the logical final caretaker!
I think it's be proven over and over again but it's cool to hear an amp built right next to 12301. I think if they added the rest of the recipe, signal chain, correct speaker cabs/speakers to 12302 and a guitar player that digs in and plays with more ferocity force it would sound exactly like the VH-1 room mic clips that are all over YT. Regardless of all the incorrect things in that GC video you hear certain attributes in those tones and how the amp breaks up in the distorted notes.
i attended a plexi shootout and recorded my friends playing some mic’ed up clips of my peacemaker, a superbass, and 12000 series SL running through a fryette power station into a vintage marshall 4x12. not a VH lick in the house
the only Germino i’ve ever played was a Masonette cranked through an Ultimate/Ho attenuator and it sounded amazing.
my fist stab at making a mic’ed up clip of the Tonex-Peacemaker W/D and extremely tickled by my absolutely ghetto wet rig!
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line out of Peacemaker into Hardwire reverb pedal - hall setting into the fx return of this dinky Tech 21 Trademark 10 combo i had collecting dust because the main input jack doesn’t work
dd-2 delay pedal = mic stand
tonex pedal adds a little verb/delay to the front of Peacemaker, and this equally ghetto Yamaha mixer i bought at a pawner for 60 bones and barely works is panning dry left/wet right and adding a extra dash of master reverb.
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headphone jack to cam trying to memory grab stream of consciousness pasadena licks out of my wazoo. dirty nails compliments of the 2 hrs of yardwork i did just prior to coming in for a jam!
yah it’s too much preamp gain, no it’s not blackback variac sunset verb Ed’s eyelashes accurate, but it is fun and my hands are telling my brain and ears that we’re close enough for government work
mahalo! i swear the Tonex feels sci fi like i’ve implanted a cyborg neuralink onto the human host brain of the Peacemaker
my fist stab at making a mic’ed up clip of the Tonex-Peacemaker W/D and extremely tickled by my absolutely ghetto wet rig!
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line out of Peacemaker into Hardwire reverb pedal - hall setting into the fx return of this dinky Tech 21 Trademark 10 combo i had collecting dust because the main input jack doesn’t work
dd-2 delay pedal = mic stand
tonex pedal adds a little verb/delay to the front of Peacemaker, and this equally ghetto Yamaha mixer i bought at a pawner for 60 bones and barely works is panning dry left/wet right and adding a extra dash of master reverb.
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headphone jack to cam trying to memory grab stream of consciousness pasadena licks out of my wazoo. dirty nails compliments of the 2 hrs of yardwork i did just prior to coming in for a jam!
yah it’s too much preamp gain, no it’s not blackback variac sunset verb Ed’s eyelashes accurate, but it is fun and my hands are telling my brain and ears that we’re close enough for government work
Nice Back the Future setup..........I Love it! So you are basically Slaving the Tonex Ex pedal in to the low input of the Peacmaker exactly what Ed was doing on the 78 tour, even Friedman has finally admitted Ed was using load boxes and slaving at least for most of that tour because he had to admit Marshall Plexi tones were not coming out of those Musicman HD100's/65's except for being used as a slave amps.
Mahalo and high praise coming from a major vh scientist like yourself. i added chain details in the YT description.Yep that's the tone Mentoneman!
That clip is as good as some of the best variaced Plexi's into an OXbox with the Sunset sound effects that I've heard and I'm sure it does low volume probably better, Those 78/79 tones have all the right accutrements in your clip. It's amazing that those tones emanate from those 78/79 captures in 1's and 0's!
All that TONE and NOT a Jose MOD in sight...............................
i bet!
They obviously used the Sunset Sound Reverb rooms but at one point I think they used plate reverb on later albums, I can't rememeber when they made the switch. It was a good sounding reverb pedal, easy to tweak that works well in my analog setup. Some still maintain there was some use of Plate reverb on the early albums, who really knows???????????i bet!
that’s one thing that came up over and over again that i never really understood.
plate reverb for VH.
why and when did this become a thing?
i’ve actually used the amazing original EMT 140 juggernaut and it was a claim to fame centerpiece of my friend’s studio here on Oahu in the 80’s. I’ve never heard any device accurately mimic the original magical sound of it correctly, and he actually offered to GIVE it to me a few years ago but:
A) it’s massive and i don’t own a moving truck or recording studio, thus would not be my first choice for pedalboard use
B) my wife would stab me if i brought that Stonehenge home unless i could hide it in drywall and pretend i’m reinforcing the garage
i hear you re: tonex computer editor=soul sucking inspiration killer!! you have to dedicate 2 hours to update, reacquaint, edit, transfer, test..They obviously used the Sunset Sound Reverb rooms but at one point I think they used plate reverb on later albums, I can't rememeber when they made the switch. It was a good sounding reverb pedal, easy to tweak that works well in my analog setup. Some still maintain there was some use of Plate reverb on the early albums, who really knows???????????
There are some comparison clips of Sunset Sound Chamber versus EMT 140 Plate someone did in this thread you might find interesting.
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/evh-reverb.2601486/
The 78/79 ToneX shows you how integral the delay and reverb is to that VH1 VH2 recorded tone, take them out the recipe and it doesn't sound as good. This reminds me I haven't even plugged in my ToneX78/79 for about six months.........I really hate their platform for such a good sounding Digital program.
