MESA/Boogie news

[Samhain]

https://larkguitars.com/blogs/news/where-is-my-boogie

 

[Donnie B.]

Very smart to take their time qualifying new Xformers.

I could write a chapter in a book about why you can't overlook anything,
however minute, when it comes to evaluating one of those things.

 

[midnightlaundry]

What's this about new transformers??

 

[ClintN667]

I loved classic tone transformers but damn if they screwed up a lot of manufacturers by closing. Soldano, Friedman, Splawn, Mesa, Omega...

Seems like with clients like that something could have been done to keep them afloat. Covid screwed us all in ways we don't even know yet.

 

[panhead]

IMO All these amp makers make out like there is overwhelming demand, when there isnt. Therefore creating their own supply and demand. There is probably only 25% of people playing guitar versus the 70`s thru 2000. This also goes for guitar makers etc. Just my thought.

 

[Donnie B.]

This reads weird for a number of reasons.

After 10 years of producing ClassicTone transformers and 78 years of manufacturing, Magnetic Components is announcing the permanent closure of our factory in early November.

This notice is much shorter than we had anticipated. This is a result of COVID and a recent and serious supply chain issue that has developed. Overall, in the last 4 years we have seen a large decline in the tube amp transformer market. At the same time, we experienced unprecedented increases in all costs necessitating us to make this tough, final decision to close.

We have decided to shut down voluntarily and before the business situation potentially gets worse. We want to close our third-generation USA-based company with dignity and honor.

source: https://www.thetonerooms.com/threads/classictone-going-out-of-business.10162/

Starts with COVID but then goes on to explain a logical business decision based on a costs vs profits margin issue.
Not sure where the 'decline in tube amps' is from, unless it's just specific to them as an OEM supplier.
I haven't seen any drop-offs in amps in the last 5 years (supply issues the last 12 months aside).

I could be completely off base. Just reads strange to me.

I guess another way to think of it is if you already have Mesa Boogie as a customer, that's enough units in a year's
time to justify at least keeping a small arm of the company going you'd think.

 

[panhead]

I have seen a one man operation with a helper at another location. No names but he has been around for at least 20 years. Helper loads chassis`s aka tranny`s pots jacks faceplates etc. While owner builder is making circuit boards with leads running wild. Helper does 5-10 chassis a day builder about the same/ dudes been this doing forever. In a month they can easily build and test 75-100 amps but theyre not going tell you that. A waiting list is just that a waiting list.

 

[psychodave]

I have a nice new classic tone transformer I never used. I should sell it for $500. ?

 

[Donnie B.]

Thinking about this more it wouldn't make sense to just fabricate and assemble transformers.
There's not a lot of unique parts but the assembly process is pretty nuts.

 

[panhead]

Thinking about this more it wouldn't make sense to just fabricate and assemble transformers.
There's not a lot of unique parts but the assembly process is pretty nuts.

The new EPA will be banning that process soon. Ya know electric cars

 

[Donnie B.]

The new EPA will be banning that process soon. Ya know electric cars

Pretty sure the varnish of today is not the same skull and cross-bones stuff they used 35 years ago. ?

Once visited a company in the oldest part of industrial LA where most of the rules and regs had been
grand-fathered in from eons ago. During the factory tour we got to the area where all of the aluminum
and steel plating was getting applied. The sales guy told me he wasn't going in but I was welcome to.

Looked a little like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_chromate#Toxicity

I didn't go through, although there were some workers in there. ?

 

[stephen sawall]

I was told a few months ago Mesa is not going to have any amps for two years. I trust the source. Been friends with him over thirty years. He told me he got the information directly from Mesa.

 

[LCW]

They used to use Schumacher transformers in the past (Mark II/III/IV and early Rectos) so shouldn’t be anything to worry about. Wonder why they moved away from them in the first place.

 

[Tone Monster]

I was told a few months ago Mesa is not going to have any amps for two years. I trust the source. Been friends with him over thirty years. He told me he got the information directly from Mesa.

How could a business survive that scenario?

 

[Donnie B.]

How could a business survive that scenario?

Having daddy Gibson pay the bills.

 

[Mark Skid]

Make a proper Mark IIC+ with "deep pull" option, and I'll bite. And please, enough with the signature edition gear.

 

[stephen sawall]

How could a business survive that scenario?

Hopefully they figure out the issues so the time line is much shorter.

 

[Samhain]

Well Gibson had to declare backtruptcy because Heny J got into way too many other areas besides guitars and over-leveraged the company.
Seems with Agnasi they haven't learned anything because they're doing it again.
And i have 0.00 confidence Gibson will keep the Mesa brand intact.
Just because Gibson re-structured their debt doesn't mean they will pay it or it goes away.

 

[lockingtuner]

I was told a few months ago Mesa is not going to have any amps for two years. I trust the source. Been friends with him over thirty years. He told me he got the information directly from Mesa.

Did he say why?

 

[311boogieman]

How could a business survive that scenario?

Pre orders