Mesa Tremoverb vs multi watts

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Hello, I have an early tremoverb (attached power cord, Mark transformers) but lately I have been thinking about the multi watts...those that have played both, what have you prefered? At the moment I could only have one, so i might sell the TOV
 
I would never get rid of an early T-verb. There’s some serious magic in those things.
 
Multi watts are going no where in the used market, just be patient and save for a bit and keep the T-Verb. Now if all you do is use red modern and play metal I’d say do whatever you like. But if you like the cleans and the reverb and the variety of drive tones in vintage orange you will regret selling it.
 
I was faced with your exact dilemma 2yrs ago, and here's where I ended up. Because my T-Verb is a '94, everyone told me not to ever sell it....and it's been such a great amp for me. But it's just too damn big for most applications these days and I really wanted a Mark V:35. So here's how I handled it...and No, I'm not at all well-off financially, I just saved and and moved some stuff around to make it happen. Now I sleep well knowing I have an amp that'll kick anything's a*s if I ever need it. :thumbsup:
 

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Sell the T-Verb. I like the MW better. If it was an older sub #250 Rev C or even Rev F Triple... different story. I've got a bunch of Rectos and have owned/sold even more. Not personally a fan of the T-Verb.
 
Findthetone1":zte13cre said:
I would never get rid of an early T-verb. There’s some serious magic in those things.
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What ^he^ said. :yes:
 
Is your Tverb a Rev F or G?

I've had MW dual, MW triple, Tverb G, Rackto G, Triple G, Triple F. Played most of the other Rectos at one point except for an early rev. Here's my take.

The Tverb had THE BEST CLEANS I've personally ever heard. I regret selling it ONLY for that reason. As a metal player I like the Dual / Triple gain structure better than the Tverb / Roadster / etc..

The triple F has THE BEST HIGH GAIN. It's unreal. But, the cleans suck. Just being honest.

However, if I was FORCED to only have one Recto- hell only one amp- it would be a Multi Watt. It ticks all the boxes.

All that said if I ever come across a Rev F Tverb I'm buying it.
 
GJgo":vl6rl7p4 said:
Is your Tverb a Rev F or G?

I've had MW dual, MW triple, Tverb G, Rackto G, Triple G, Triple F. Played most of the other Rectos at one point except for an early rev. Here's my take.

The Tverb had THE BEST CLEANS I've personally ever heard. I regret selling it ONLY for that reason. As a metal player I like the Dual / Triple gain structure better than the Tverb / Roadster / etc..

The triple F has THE BEST HIGH GAIN. It's unreal. But, the cleans suck. Just being honest.

However, if I was FORCED to only have one Recto- hell only one amp- it would be a Multi Watt. It ticks all the boxes.

All that said if I ever come across a Rev F Tverb I'm buying it.
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As far as as I knew there are no revision F T-verbs. They are all G’s.
 
skoora":1n8gjgy5 said:
As far as as I knew there are no revision F T-verbs. They are all G’s.
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I've been told that some of the early combos with the big "Mesa" logo were Fs. I'm watching now!
 
Mine is a REV G, tone is awesome but I a lot of people hype the Multiwatt for metal. Vintage mode, as well as blues sound awesome on mine but I mainly use the red channel ,which is also awesome, however I feel that the EQ could be more refined as well as having tighter lows without an overdrive.

Another important point which makes this decision a possibility is that I have a Soldano Avenger...that amp can cover very similar tones to the Rectifiers, I also had a 2 channel Triple, and the Avenger was overall a better amp, so I dont really miss the Triple, but Im not sure if it will be the same if I get rid of the TOV
 
I just recently put my tremoverb back in my main lineup. It's staying there. As far as the cleans, you will not find better in a Recto or even most high gain amps I own/have owned/played.

Do what you do, but keep in mind that they are more multi watts out there than tremoverbs. Don't rush getting rid of it unless you are pretty damn sure. I think I paid under $500 for mine a decade ago.

Also I just retubed mine extensively with some of my NOS stash, a combination of JAN's and GE in V1-3 and the PI. Damn does it sound amazing. Just saying it's something to consider. It responded AWESOMELY and compared to what was in there it dialed in fairly different in a good way. Totally a better amp now.

I have had different power tube types in there in the past and that is another thing to think about. I have SED =C= EL34's in it now and put them in a few years ago. Untraditional but amazing.
 
swamptrashstompboxes":2ojsvhes said:
I just recently put my tremoverb back in my main lineup. It's staying there. As far as the cleans, you will not find better in a Recto or even most high gain amps I own/have owned/played.

Do what you do, but keep in mind that they are more multi watts out there than tremoverbs. Don't rush getting rid of it unless you are pretty damn sure. I think I paid under $500 for mine a decade ago.

Also I just retubed mine extensively with some of my NOS stash, a combination of JAN's and GE in V1-3 and the PI. Damn does it sound amazing. Just saying it's something to consider. It responded AWESOMELY and compared to what was in there it dialed in fairly different in a good way. Totally a better amp now.

I have had different power tube types in there in the past and that is another thing to think about. I have SED =C= EL34's in it now and put them in a few years ago. Untraditional but amazing.
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Share the exact tube combination man, I have some of those in my stash
 
Never played a Tremoverb, but the 2014 MW Dual Recto I had was amazing. Can't speak to the cleans because I don't use them, but the mid gain and high gain tones were awesome. Boosted, that thing was a chug machine that would rattle the world around ya. Orange or Red boosted was sick for the heavy stuff, but it wasn't the fastest responding amp. Always a touch of sag even in modern/diode mode and boosted which was cool. Wish I had the funds to keep em all.
 
apophis":s10dreoj said:
swamptrashstompboxes":s10dreoj said:
I just recently put my tremoverb back in my main lineup. It's staying there. As far as the cleans, you will not find better in a Recto or even most high gain amps I own/have owned/played.

Do what you do, but keep in mind that they are more multi watts out there than tremoverbs. Don't rush getting rid of it unless you are pretty damn sure. I think I paid under $500 for mine a decade ago.

Also I just retubed mine extensively with some of my NOS stash, a combination of JAN's and GE in V1-3 and the PI. Damn does it sound amazing. Just saying it's something to consider. It responded AWESOMELY and compared to what was in there it dialed in fairly different in a good way. Totally a better amp now.

I have had different power tube types in there in the past and that is another thing to think about. I have SED =C= EL34's in it now and put them in a few years ago. Untraditional but amazing.
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Share the exact tube combination man, I have some of those in my stash
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I have no problem sharing, I just rolled them through and don't remember what ended where. I didn't bother to go NOS with the reverb driver and such, just grabbed a half dozen Han and GE and put them where they sounded best. V1-3 and PI are NOS. Poweamp SED =C= EL34's. It sounds way better than what was in there, even than the Sylvania 6L6's that I had in there before. Different but better. The way the room is set up I can't get to it easily, but next time I pull it out will let you know which was JAN and which was GE. I should mention that I use a Timmy out front to tighten up the front front end just a little volume, no gain.
 
I wanted to make another point, TOV's are done. While far from rare, there are a lot more multiwatts available. Who knows about the market but scarcity is in your favor someday. I don't think any of us saw 15 years ago that an unmolested JCM or JMP would fetch what they do. But again everybody modded them back in the day, and never did as much as rectos.
 
I would just say this..

Don’t ever sell an amp you really love. You’ll regret it; and when you buy another of the same version it may not measure up to the first one.
 
Racerxrated":1nfyg63e said:
I would just say this..

Don’t ever sell an amp you really love. You’ll regret it; and when you buy another of the same version it may not measure up to the first one.
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It never will. I still regret selling my first block letter 5150. Owned others on paper identical, same tubes, etc, never was happy after. Now I am so frustrated a decade and quite a few amps later I am mad because I'll never have it back sounding the same AND because of that don't want to look for another one.
 
swamptrashstompboxes":1ktjnwii said:
Racerxrated":1ktjnwii said:
I would just say this..

Don’t ever sell an amp you really love. You’ll regret it; and when you buy another of the same version it may not measure up to the first one.
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It never will. I still regret selling my first block letter 5150. Owned others on paper identical, same tubes, etc, never was happy after. Now I am so frustrated a decade and quite a few amps later I am mad because I'll never have it back sounding the same AND because of that don't want to look for another one.
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It sucks because you know you’re rolling the dice even getting the exact same model sometimes. I found a used T-verb head in a store and thought would love to have two so I could permanently leave 34’s in one but it just sounded a lot “smaller”, gainier but smaller than mine. I thought for a sec I’d take mine in to have them in the same room to remove the differences but just didn't bother eventually, as it would have been an extremely frivolous purchase.
I put 34’s in mine, as I tend to prefer a 34 and have them in my V and it did make the dirt tones a little more to my liking but went back to 6L6’s because it was easily the best choice for the amp for all around performance. I like using the cleans in a rockabilly type context and they're markedly better with the 6L’s. Plus I figure, let a recto be a recto as I have Marshall stuff covered two times over.
 
You guys convinced me, ill just wait and try to save for the multi watt that way I can try both and just keep what I prefer. And yeah, I have not been seeing many TOVs lately, specially in the condition mine is
 
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