Minor problem with Suhr Modern HH

[geetarmikey]

Anyone else notice with the simulated "inbetween" setting on a HH Suhr that the volume dips a bit when you're on these pickup selections? It's not a huge problem since I've created louder patches on my GSP to compensate, but was always a bit of a problem when I had a "proper" amp.

Anyone else experience this and is there a known easy fix for it?

Thanks!

 

[El Mariachi]

I have an HH Modern with a 3-way switch. I have not experienced that problem. Perhaps there could be a weak solder on one of the connections?

 

[LP Freak]

Anyone else notice with the simulated "inbetween" setting on a HH Suhr that the volume dips a bit when you're on these pickup selections? It's not a huge problem since I've created louder patches on my GSP to compensate, but was always a bit of a problem when I had a "proper" amp.

Anyone else experience this and is there a known easy fix for it?

Thanks!

Isn't that a coil tap position which would be less output and equal less volume

 

[geetarmikey]

It's a 5 way switch, but with two humbuckers, so positions 2 and 4 are simulated single coil. Not coil-tapped either.

 

[cardinal]

Do you have a link describing the switching? I'm not sure what you mean by simulating a single coil without splitting the pickup. Are they switched to parallel? Run through a high pass filter? The output of those positions probably is just lower than full humbucking unless it also involves some type of boost/line driver to get the level back up, which would be pretty neat.

 

[yngzaklynch]

Niether of mine do this. Bad switch? Call Suhr

 

[LP Freak]

It's probably the same as Fender where position 2 and 4 automatically tap the coil

 

[mooncobra]

mine has never done that.

 

[grooveHT]

Yeah, I believe the 2 and 4 positions are probably inner and outer coils of the humbuckers, in parallel. That gets you the stratty/teleish sounds, but part of the key to those sounds is the coils being in parallel, as opposed to being in series, as they are in positions 1/3/5. In most pickup configurations, series will be stronger than parallel; parallel sounds a bit weaker/thinner/more single coil-ish, which would explain your volume drop.

 

[cardinal]

Yeah, I believe the 2 and 4 positions are probably inner and outer coils of the humbuckers, in parallel. That gets you the stratty/teleish sounds, but part of the key to those sounds is the coils being in parallel, as opposed to being in series, as they are in positions 1/3/5. In most pickup configurations, series will be stronger than parallel; parallel sounds a bit weaker/thinner/more single coil-ish, which would explain your volume drop.

Well, to isolate just the inner or just the outer coils, you first have to split the pickup. And the vast majority of switches, when combining the neck and beidge pickup positions, combine them in parallel.

Unless Suhr's dreamed up something new, his switching schemes auto-split the humbuckers in positions 2 and 4. In those positions, the switch also adds a ~500k resistor in parallel, to simulate a 250k volume pot. That may be the simulation that the OP is thinking of.

 

[grooveHT]

Yeah, I believe the 2 and 4 positions are probably inner and outer coils of the humbuckers, in parallel. That gets you the stratty/teleish sounds, but part of the key to those sounds is the coils being in parallel, as opposed to being in series, as they are in positions 1/3/5. In most pickup configurations, series will be stronger than parallel; parallel sounds a bit weaker/thinner/more single coil-ish, which would explain your volume drop.

Well, to isolate just the inner or just the outer coils, you first have to split the pickup. And the vast majority of switches, when combining the neck and beidge pickup positions, combine them in parallel.

Unless Suhr's dreamed up something new, his switching schemes auto-split the humbuckers in positions 2 and 4. In those positions, the switch also adds a ~500k resistor in parallel, to simulate a 250k volume pot. That may be the simulation that the OP is thinking of.

Yeah, agree with all of that; what I was getting at is when the neck humbucker is on by itself, it's usually wired in series, as is the bridge (on most of the 5-way switching I've seen). So, yes, even in position 3, when it's neck+bridge, the neck bucker is in series, the bridge bucker is in series, and neck and bridge are parallel with each other. Does that make sense? in two and four, they just have individual coils from each bucker, in parallel with each other.

 

[cardinal]

Yeah, you can wire the coils of a humbucker in parallel with each other, which approximates a single coil sound without the hum. Maybe that's what Suhr does with H-H guitars.

 

[LP Freak]

Easy wait to find out is to tap the coils individually and see which one is on