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colimofsmoke
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ok, I'm gonna try this a different way. overposting a topic, most likely. apologies.
I play a sort of hybridized modern metal/doom style thing. heavy, slow, tuned in B, but with occasional pinch harmonics and searing single note lines. I really like alot of hanging overtones and harmonics. I like a lot of classic doom/stoner stuff (Sleep, Earth, Electric Wizard, Cough, etc. etc. etc.), but also alot of modern metal (too long of a list to start). basically, I want a doomish tone, but with more dynamics, definition, responsiveness, etc. i.e. i find the straight dark, relatively non-dynamic doom tone alot of these bands use fairly boring in the long haul, not so much when I'm listening (a little bit), but more so when I'm playing. I'm playing in such a low tuning primarily because I play solo with a drum machine and no bassist, and i'm pretty good with that for now. I'm NOT playing in a cover band. I don't want to sound exactly like so and so.
I currently have a VHT Deliverance 60 (obvs) and a Schecter 7 with actives (blackouts), but am trading the the guitar for a SG with BKP ceramic warpigs. As I've mentioned, I recently paired my VHT in stereo with a friend's Sunn, and was pretty ecstatic with the results. The higher headroom vintage crunch of the Sunn combined with the more modern high-gain of the VHT sounded HUGE, and had a lot of depth and dimension that I really loved. So, I decided to add a second amp to my arsenal and go for the stereo solo thing whole hog.
after playing a ton of amps, I've kind of whittled it down to an early 70's Ampeg V4, a first gen Sunn Model T, or possibly a Marshall JMP Super Bass. altho from what I've been able to hear personally, the Ampeg seems to be the ticket, with the Sunn a close second. The Ampeg V4 is an incredibly wet amp, even without the reverb, which is a strong, natural, deep spring reverb. The Sunn is pretty wet, as well. I'm a bit concerned about pairing a dry, cutting amp like the VHT with a wet, dark amp. well, mostly I'm concerned about having the VHT stand out too much/separating from the wetter amp (putting a dark amp with a bright amp sounds awesome to me). Thinking maybe two wetter sounding amps might work better.
At any rate, if anyone's still with me here, my questions are these: is there a different stereo combo I should consider? is there a more modern amp that will get the dark, warm poweramp crunch of the Sunn or Ampeg? Is there a high-gainer (no mesas) that will provide the saturation, articulation, dynamics, and responsiveness of the VHT without the dryness (i.e., with a built-in spring reverb or effects loop, or just naturally through the voicing)? Is there a totally different combo of heads that I'm completely missing? Keep in mind here that I like a dark tone, a lot of mids, and that, in general, I'm not in love with the Marshall sound I know (JCM 800) for what I personally do.
I know "what kind of amp should I play" threads piss people off, I've literally played every amp I could get my hands on. 5150 iii(meh), Hiwatt DR103(sounded really good, but way too fucking loud before breakup), Laney GH100L (rad, but maybe not for this combo), Mesa Mark IV and DR's of every persuasion (not a Mesa fan, afterall, methinks, although the mark IV kills the DR, imo), Fender Twin/Reverb/etc (love them, but not the right breakup for this), Rivera K-Tre (seemed one dimensional), Engl Powerball and Fireball (love them, but don't know how they'd pair), Bogner Uberschall(had potential) and Shiva (rad amp but maybe not for what I do right now), Orange RV/TV (no thanks), Splawn Nitro (don't remember it really), Framus Cobra (too mesa, too fizzy) and god...so many I can't remember.
yr most likely ready to punch me, but it's an honest question. I can't play every amp, and don't know all the boutique stuff, suggestions much appreciated.
I play a sort of hybridized modern metal/doom style thing. heavy, slow, tuned in B, but with occasional pinch harmonics and searing single note lines. I really like alot of hanging overtones and harmonics. I like a lot of classic doom/stoner stuff (Sleep, Earth, Electric Wizard, Cough, etc. etc. etc.), but also alot of modern metal (too long of a list to start). basically, I want a doomish tone, but with more dynamics, definition, responsiveness, etc. i.e. i find the straight dark, relatively non-dynamic doom tone alot of these bands use fairly boring in the long haul, not so much when I'm listening (a little bit), but more so when I'm playing. I'm playing in such a low tuning primarily because I play solo with a drum machine and no bassist, and i'm pretty good with that for now. I'm NOT playing in a cover band. I don't want to sound exactly like so and so.
I currently have a VHT Deliverance 60 (obvs) and a Schecter 7 with actives (blackouts), but am trading the the guitar for a SG with BKP ceramic warpigs. As I've mentioned, I recently paired my VHT in stereo with a friend's Sunn, and was pretty ecstatic with the results. The higher headroom vintage crunch of the Sunn combined with the more modern high-gain of the VHT sounded HUGE, and had a lot of depth and dimension that I really loved. So, I decided to add a second amp to my arsenal and go for the stereo solo thing whole hog.
after playing a ton of amps, I've kind of whittled it down to an early 70's Ampeg V4, a first gen Sunn Model T, or possibly a Marshall JMP Super Bass. altho from what I've been able to hear personally, the Ampeg seems to be the ticket, with the Sunn a close second. The Ampeg V4 is an incredibly wet amp, even without the reverb, which is a strong, natural, deep spring reverb. The Sunn is pretty wet, as well. I'm a bit concerned about pairing a dry, cutting amp like the VHT with a wet, dark amp. well, mostly I'm concerned about having the VHT stand out too much/separating from the wetter amp (putting a dark amp with a bright amp sounds awesome to me). Thinking maybe two wetter sounding amps might work better.
At any rate, if anyone's still with me here, my questions are these: is there a different stereo combo I should consider? is there a more modern amp that will get the dark, warm poweramp crunch of the Sunn or Ampeg? Is there a high-gainer (no mesas) that will provide the saturation, articulation, dynamics, and responsiveness of the VHT without the dryness (i.e., with a built-in spring reverb or effects loop, or just naturally through the voicing)? Is there a totally different combo of heads that I'm completely missing? Keep in mind here that I like a dark tone, a lot of mids, and that, in general, I'm not in love with the Marshall sound I know (JCM 800) for what I personally do.
I know "what kind of amp should I play" threads piss people off, I've literally played every amp I could get my hands on. 5150 iii(meh), Hiwatt DR103(sounded really good, but way too fucking loud before breakup), Laney GH100L (rad, but maybe not for this combo), Mesa Mark IV and DR's of every persuasion (not a Mesa fan, afterall, methinks, although the mark IV kills the DR, imo), Fender Twin/Reverb/etc (love them, but not the right breakup for this), Rivera K-Tre (seemed one dimensional), Engl Powerball and Fireball (love them, but don't know how they'd pair), Bogner Uberschall(had potential) and Shiva (rad amp but maybe not for what I do right now), Orange RV/TV (no thanks), Splawn Nitro (don't remember it really), Framus Cobra (too mesa, too fizzy) and god...so many I can't remember.
yr most likely ready to punch me, but it's an honest question. I can't play every amp, and don't know all the boutique stuff, suggestions much appreciated.
