RaceU4her
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im assuming thats jaymz playing the solo, he really gives kirk a run for his money 
311boogieman
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Yeah, and that post solo bridge part is my favorite (on this demo and final)im assuming thats jaymz playing the solo, he really gives kirk a run for his money
LPMojoGL
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I think it's cool to hear this, knowing how it evolved.
Also cool to realize where Cliff filled in the sound with killer bass parts.
Also cool to realize where Cliff filled in the sound with killer bass parts.
stanbog
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The interlude solo? That was/is always James' solo.im assuming thats jaymz playing the solo, he really gives kirk a run for his money
watson503
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Yeah, I hate how in so many of the old bootlegs the filmer would always be focused on Kirk during that solo and I'm like focus on fucking James', man!
angelspade
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DIG IT!!!
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creep66
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Very kool to listen to. Man he had an iron right hand, even on the demo.
Markedman
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It sounds straight up Marshall. EL34 for sure.
Not hearing the crunch berries.
Not hearing the crunch berries.
LPMojoGL
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That's pretty chugging for a Marshall!
Didn't he run his Mesa through a Marshall power section?
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Philhouse
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headlessdeadguy
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“Had”?
psychodave
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I dig the sound. Doesn’t sound like a Mesa. Not saying it’s not a Mesa, it’s just not super scooped.
NaturalBornBoy
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Man that rhythm tone sounds KILLER! Tight, aggressive and chunky! Not the wimpy ass shit excuse for tone James has now.
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jeff5
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Liked the tone too. Very cool.
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Philhouse
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Yeah, it doesn't scream Mesa. I guess its just a pretty rudimentary demo recording though. He definitely had the Crunch Berries by 'Day on the Green' in Aug 85 and this demo is from Mid June, so I'd wager he had it around that time too.
I love the bonus discs in the Box sets like this. It's great to hear them develop from just the basic riff.
peterc52
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Probably without the additional EQ in the loop they used on the album and afterwards
Markedman
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On the Master of Puppets recording, both James and Kirk started using Mesa Boogie amps. They were both playing through Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ slaved into modded 100W Marshall JCM800 heads. The Marshalls that they had used previously on the Ride The Lightning album were now being juiced by the Mesa front end. This combination of amps was then fed into stock Marshall 4×12 cabinets.
The Mesa-Boogie Mark IIC+ amp was re-wired as a pre-amp and this was used to create the Metallica guitar tone throughout the Master Of Puppets sessions. This amp has a reputation as one of the best Boogies ever made, next to the classic Mark I. As they have a fantastic rhythm channel. The Mark IIC+ was the last of the Mark II series and featured a more sensitive lead channel and, more importantly, improved circuitry in the effects loop. Plus, the Mark IIC had a quieter foot switching system and a new mod to the reverb circuit.
Finally, the classic Marshall JCM800 2203 100-watt power amp was used to give the Metallica recordings that classic grind. This is a single-channel, all-valve amp with no reverb or effects. It was actually my first proper Marshall amp in the 1980s and I can attest to the sheer power they have. A fantastic, no-nonsense amp with bags of tone and perfect for that Master Of Puppets iconic tone.
The Mesa-Boogie Mark IIC+ amp was re-wired as a pre-amp and this was used to create the Metallica guitar tone throughout the Master Of Puppets sessions. This amp has a reputation as one of the best Boogies ever made, next to the classic Mark I. As they have a fantastic rhythm channel. The Mark IIC+ was the last of the Mark II series and featured a more sensitive lead channel and, more importantly, improved circuitry in the effects loop. Plus, the Mark IIC had a quieter foot switching system and a new mod to the reverb circuit.
Finally, the classic Marshall JCM800 2203 100-watt power amp was used to give the Metallica recordings that classic grind. This is a single-channel, all-valve amp with no reverb or effects. It was actually my first proper Marshall amp in the 1980s and I can attest to the sheer power they have. A fantastic, no-nonsense amp with bags of tone and perfect for that Master Of Puppets iconic tone.
LPMojoGL
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So, yeah?
