So this is why (warning Metallica content)...

That song is damn near impossible to quad track. The speed yes, but the damn sliding main riff is the real ass kicker.
 
Philhouse said:
Just for an 'math intervention' exercise, if we accept the MOP bpm is commonly considered as being 212bpm, Whats the actual tempo difference between recording at 435 and the speeding up to 440?

What bpm did they record it at, and is that in reality a significant difference?

(I'm too low on caffeine to do the math rn)
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Is it a difference of (440-435)/435 x 100 = 1.15%

212 bpm less 1.15% = 209 bpm

So: They tuned guitar to 435hz and recorded at 209 bpm to result in a track that when pitched up to 440 is now at 212bpm?


Not a huge difference.
It's not like they were recording it a half speed to fool the world. Pretty sure the demo tapes all have James playing it at full tempo anyway, then there is the live footage of them playing at the speed of cocaine bpm. Was it all just one of Flemming's studio tricks used to give him the tightest recording he could get, rather than a super secret that James needed to achieve the absolute perfect tempo of 212?
 
Philhouse said:
Is it a difference of (440-435)/435 x 100 = 1.15%

212 bpm less 1.15% = 209 bpm

So: They tuned guitar to 435hz and recorded at 209 bpm to result in a track that when pitched up to 440 is now at 212bpm?


Not a huge difference.
It's not like they were recording it a half speed to fool the world. Pretty sure the demo tapes all have James playing it at full tempo anyway, then there is the live footage of them playing at the speed of cocaine bpm. Was it all just one of Flemming's studio tricks used to give him the tightest recording he could get, rather than a super secret that James needed to achieve the absolute perfect tempo of 212?
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Where did they say they tuned to 435hz?? that dosent sound like much of a difference, but youre definitely gonna notice 3bpm playing that fast for that long. shits not easy, its why they stop every couple measures to take a break and james can ask if everyone if they are still alive
 
RaceU4her said:
Where did they say they tuned to 435hz?? that dosent sound like much of a difference, but youre definitely gonna notice 3bpm playing that fast for that long. shits not easy, its why they stop every couple measures to take a break and james can ask if everyone if they are still alive
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:ROFLMAO: fuck I hate that 'Are you alive??' line

James really needs to freshen up his repetoire




Anyway, yeah, It's in his studio notes (this is the sheet he's pointing at also in the video at around 10 secs in)

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