mrp5150
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Is it one of the Ping Floyds?
Digital Jams
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ttosh":eyky52sg said:
My mind is made up, killing that order.
No OFR = not Charvel and I agree with Chubtone that Fender is killing the name.
ttosh
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Digital Jams":lv0836q1 said:
I am still good for the Black Tele and Tangerine SO Cal. I can put a OFR on and still be getting one for a good price. As long as they play well, which is to be seen.....
Also when I get mine there will be 2 gig bags for sale, $149 each, get yours pre ordered now!!!
Digital Jams
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donbarzini":psilcoe7 said:
Only if it is an OGB.
Inearthed
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Digital Jams":35id8gbx said:
Worse comes to worse, could always pick one up for $600-700 a couple months after the honeymoons finish up.
badger71
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I'll be at the Nashville NAMM show in a few days....I'll tell them: no OFR=Epic Fail!
ttosh
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donbarzini":2r4ug7q8 said:
The gig bag stays even after the honeymoon.
Matts Music just took my pre-order. Now the wait is on.
Inearthed
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donbarzini":3mvgpjrx said:
For a gig bag w/original hang tags protected inside a G&G Case. (I was originally going to put in "case candy" with this but then thought that wouldn't apply since it is a gig bag and all, but then I thought about putting "bag candy" but decided against it since yanno... Bag candy sounds kinda off...)
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duodecim
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Digital Jams":vc81ac5m said:
I agree. It's as if some marketing droid has determined that the price has to be below $1000, no matter what. And hence the specs have been adapted to the marketing department's wishes.
That's the wrong way to go. I don't want to have a guitar where everything has been forcefully fitted to some arbitrary price, by marketing nonetheless. It makes you wonder about the rest of the instrument.
ttosh
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I disagree, most of the specs seem good IMHO and the OFR's have been known for horrible quality for quite some time anyway. One if the reasons Suhr quit using them if I understand correctly. I think the rest of the guitar seems in line with the price and I am being optimistic they will play well and the QA will be good.
lamppost
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Digital Jams":lkwj6kzn said:
+1
Thats just a stupid fucking move, IMO.
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Gitfiddler
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maybe wayne CHARVEL (if he's still able to use that name) will throw us a bone and discount the real deal
ttosh
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Gitfiddler":1wq7j433 said:
Wayne has been making guitars long after Charvel, and of course they are top quality. You could probably get one of his with OFR for around $2650 spec'd out like these give or take a little. As well for a bit more you could get custom paint.
http://www.wayneguitars.com/
Chubtone
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Digital Jams":2c2tlpym said:
Scott,
I never said that Fender was killing the Charvel name. Honestly, Grover Jackson seriously damaged the name 22 years ago when he sold the name to Akai or whoever it was and production went to Japan. Fender has actually brought back the Charvel name and has made it stand for great quality, USA custom shop guitars again. Things have been a little goofy here and there IMO with Charvel not being able to use the strat headstock on every guitar without "licensing" it from Fender. Heck, Fender has been the best thing that could have happened to Charvel because no one else on the planet would have been able to build that guitar and put that headstock on it.
What I said is that I hope this production line guitar is worthy of the name, Charvel. Potentially it will be and I am leaning toward believing it more and more each day. One of my former employees works in the Jackson Custom Shop now. He owns an original San Dimas Charvel that he got from another of my employees. While he worked for me he played several of my old Charvels and my other employees Charvels. He knows San Dimas Charvels and today he told Jay (the guy who works for me) that the production Charvels are very, very nice. He has held them, played them, looked them over.
San Dimas Jacksons a lot of times had those licensed Floyds made by Schaller. For a time they even had that horrible Jackson trem on them. A real Floyd was a retrofit that took about 30 seconds. I owned plenty of San Dimas Jacksons with those bridges on them that would have been worthy of being called Charvels. They were even better with a nice old Floyd on them.
I'm just saying, wait until you check out the bridges before deciding against the guitars. I have heard countless complaints about the quality of the German made Floyd Roses for years now. Schaller is having tons of problems with production in Germany due to the green party being all over them for their plating processes and other environmental concerns. Over the last few years there have been times when it was impossible to get a Floyd or even Schaller Strap Locks for almost 6 months at a time. I don't think Schaller is going to be able to overcome this and will probably move all production to a country that doesn't watch this so closely.
I will probably be buying my first brand new Charvel since 1984 and do you guys think one of these production line Charvels will be too much "silver spoon in the mouth" treatment as a first guitar for my 8 yr old son?
Plexihacker
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At first glance I thought it was an insanely good deal on these guitars. It's simply impossible to produce a quality American-made guitar with these specs at this price. They implied the trems used were "real" Floyd Rose bridges, along with Seymour Duncan pickups, etc. But now that they've disclosed that the trems are Korean licensed trems, I have to wonder where else they cut corners to get the guitar at this price point.
I sure wish I had my old original Charvels. I sold the last one WAY too cheap because I didn't realize the collector value behind the old ones at the time.
I sure wish I had my old original Charvels. I sold the last one WAY too cheap because I didn't realize the collector value behind the old ones at the time.
stratotone
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One thing to consider for those who are complaining about the trems... could be worse, they could have what most SD Jacksons and Charvels had originally...
Kahlers. Most of the older ones were plagued with these, and then Jackson used the JT6 abomination on their USA and import guitars. Ugh. The schallers from the early 90s or so were good trems though.
I'd rather drop in a 'real' floyd in one of these than to try to put one in where a kahler was!
Pete
Kahlers. Most of the older ones were plagued with these, and then Jackson used the JT6 abomination on their USA and import guitars. Ugh. The schallers from the early 90s or so were good trems though.
I'd rather drop in a 'real' floyd in one of these than to try to put one in where a kahler was!
Pete
lamppost
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Chubtone":3jvbvp8c said:I will probably be buying my first brand new Charvel since 1984 and do you guys think one of these production line Charvels will be too much "silver spoon in the mouth" treatment as a first guitar for my 8 yr old son?
Dude, that would be the coolest dad move ever!
Gainfreak
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I think some of you guys should be more concerned about the wood being used for the bodies then the floyd. Rumor has it that these bodies are being constructed out of multiple pieces of wood like the old Kramers were, and if that is the case, Im not so sure how good these guitars will sound. Now keep in mind this is strictly a rumor but if it is true, and they do cheese out ,I wouldn't give you a dollar for any of those guitars.
Gainfreak
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donbarzini":1ggt5va9 said:
That's because you are the type of person who thinks ahead. Most people don't realize how important the gig bag material is.
MrDan666
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donbarzini":21py1ied said:
Maybe it will have a rollback lid on it..