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[Geo]

Ah I see, my mistake. I guess I'd say that the level of anxiety is fairly related to an event's abruptness. Like people do get anxiety over inflation but "normal" inflation is kind of expected, and in that sense it's "minimally anxiety inducing" because people accept it as just kinda how the world works and they can account for it. But when inflation spirals like it did during the pandemic or something, then people freak because it spikes and could actually lead to tangible changes to people's lifestyle and financial futures they didn't predict, etc.

I suppose from that angle, the tariffs feel like a one-two punch of an instant rise in everybody's expenses due to how connected our economy is to the rest of the world, and it happened for seemingly arbitrary reasons and in a way that nobody can predict, just based on whatever numbers the administration thinks sound good at the time, and it seems to be changing significantly all the time. That kind of unpredictability definitely freaks people out.

It's just another "what should I be mad about today" narrative for the soft heads to regurgitate.

 

[Bad Brain]

It's just another "what should I be mad about today" narrative for the soft heads to regurgitate.

You don't think there will be a material impact? Markets disagree.

 

[Geo]

You don't think there will be a material impact? Markets disagree.

Just one of the 100,000 things going on right now that would have a "material impact".

 

[TheGreatGreen]

It's just another "what should I be mad about today" narrative for the soft heads to regurgitate.

...says one of the most outspoken conservative guys on this forum (and that's saying something) who absolutely shits bricks every time a libtard so much as looks at a camera.

Conservaties make up constant bullshit about caravans, 80,000 armed IRS agents who will supposedly shoot up your house if your taxes are off by a single red cent, trans people coming for your kids, and all kinds of other nonsense, which you all say everybody should be up in arms about.

But if conservative Dear Leader causes real, actual, tangible, measurable problems we can see with our own eyes and feel with our wallets, right now in real time, arbitrarily, for zero reason, that does nobody any good at all, well it's probably just no big deal, especially if libtard are complaining about it.

Got it.

 

[Geo]

...says one of the most outspoken conservative guys on this forum (and that's saying something) who absolutely shits bricks every time a libtard so much as looks at a camera.

Conservaties make up constant bullshit about caravans, 80,000 armed IRS agents who will supposedly shoot up your house if your taxes are off by a single red cent, trans people coming for your kids, and all kinds of other nonsense, which you all say everybody should be up in arms about.

But if conservative Dear Leader causes real, actual, tangible, measurable problems we can see with our own eyes and feel with our wallets, right now in real time, arbitrarily, for zero reason, that does nobody any good at all, well it's probably just no big deal, especially if libtard are complaining about it.

Got it.

The problem with libtards is that they have no idea the reason or cause of whats happening. They only get the current issue. They never understand the history and underlying minutia of any given situation.

Do you have any idea how the US is going to deal with the 28 Trillion of treasury bonds that will mature by 2028? 6 Trillion by July of this year?

No you don't. Tariffs, bad, orange man bad is all you have.

And the tariff's are not really a tariff. Orange man bad is pulling one over on you dummies.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

The problem with libtards is that they have no idea the reason or cause of whats happening. They only get the current issue. They never understand the history and underlying minutia of any given situation.

Do you have any idea how the US is going to deal with the 28 Trillion of treasury bonds that will mature by 2028? 6 Trillion by July of this year?

No you don't. Tariffs, bad, orange man bad is all you have.

And the tariff's are not really a tariff. Orange man bad is pulling one over on you dummies.

Wrong. Just about every single study regarding the differences between liberals and conservatives shows liberals being better suited for more complex thinking and understanding systems, as liberals are more comfortable with novelty and unfamiliarity, while conservatives are more comfortable with security, predictability, and authority (which extends to simpler hierarchical systems).

Feel free to explain how the tariffs aren't really tariffs though. I'd be curious to hear your explanation about that.

 

[VonBonfire]

...says one of the most outspoken conservative guys on this forum (and that's saying something) who absolutely shits bricks every time a libtard so much as looks at a camera.

Conservaties make up constant bullshit about caravans, 80,000 armed IRS agents who will supposedly shoot up your house if your taxes are off by a single red cent, trans people coming for your kids, and all kinds of other nonsense, which you all say everybody should be up in arms about.

But if conservative Dear Leader causes real, actual, tangible, measurable problems we can see with our own eyes and feel with our wallets, right now in real time, arbitrarily, for zero reason, that does nobody any good at all, well it's probably just no big deal, especially if libtard are complaining about it.

Got it.

Tariffs are how this nation was meant to be, and should have been funded the entire time because then government's only purpose is defense and encouraging commerce. We don't need massive bureaucracies. The democrat great society has crash landed and there is no fixing that wreck. I guess servile minds would prefer to pay income and property taxes in perpetuity all for the sake of some dumbass ideals that are all proven failures.

 

[Geo]

Wrong. Just about every single study regarding the differences between liberals and conservatives shows liberals being better suited for more complex thinking and understanding systems, as liberals are more comfortable with novelty and unfamiliarity, while conservatives are more comfortable with security, predictability, and authority (which extends to simpler hierarchical systems).

Feel free to explain how the tariffs aren't really tariffs though. I'd be curious to hear your explanation about that.

What are these studies you speak of? Who did these studies "experts"?

And I have no intention of educating you, unless you want to pay me for my time.

So, what is the US to do about the maturing treasuries? Will other countries continue to buy our debt?

I would love to here your opinion on this matter.

 

[Geo]

These "tariff's" don't seem to be a problem for Italy.

 

[skoora]

The problem with libtards is that they have no idea the reason or cause of whats happening. They only get the current issue. They never understand the history and underlying minutia of any given situation.

Do you have any idea how the US is going to deal with the 28 Trillion of treasury bonds that will mature by 2028? 6 Trillion by July of this year?

No you don't. Tariffs, bad, orange man bad is all you have.

And the tariff's are not really a tariff. Orange man bad is pulling one over on you dummies.

Hmm, must be why we routinely do better economically under Democrat leadership than Republicans.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

What are these studies you speak of? Who did these studies "experts"?

Anything I link here (of which there are many, just use google for christ sake) you'll just handwave away as having "liberal bias" because it doesn't suit the narrative you want to believe, just like you've handwaved away everything else that doesn't fit your world view. Hell it's in the name. "Conservatives" want to conserve what's already here, which means of course they'd value safety, predictability, and authority. Liberals are liberals specifically because they think systemically and are unafraid of the new and novel. Like, you don't even need a study (even though there are plenty, again... google them) to just intuit that.

As far as liberalism being more closely linked to more complex, systemic thinking, here's a question for you. Do you ever wonder why so many places of higher education produce so many liberals? Do you think it's really, actually literal brainwashing, or do you think it's because there's just a higher correlation between smart people and liberalism? I'll give you a hint. There are no places in universities where they pry your eyes open and make you watch videos about how everybody should be trans, despite what Fox "News" tells you.

BTW I'm not saying all liberals are smart and all conservatives are dumb. Lord knows that's not the case. There are idiot liberals and genius conservatives. But I am saying there are fundamental differences in how they think.

And I have no intention of educating you, unless you want to pay me for my time.

Great line, I'll have to use it myself next time I'm trying to hide the fact that I don't understand something.

So, what is the US to do about the maturing treasuries? Will other countries continue to buy our debt?

I would love to here your opinion on those matter.

What you're doing here is called "whataboutism" and it's not relevant to the conversation about tariffs. You know, the thing in the title of the thread.


So until you can actually define what a tariff is and how Trump's tariffs are impacting the country, there's really no reason for me to keep talking to you... or for anyone else to listen to you here for that matter.

 

[VonBonfire]

"Conservatives" want to conserve what's already here, which means of course they'd value safety, predictability, and authority. Liberals are liberals specifically because they think systemically and are unafraid of the new and novel. Like, you don't even need a study (even though there are plenty, again... google them) to just intuit that.

You have weird ideas about conservatives.

 

[Geo]

What you're doing here is called "whataboutism" and it's not relevant to the conversation about tariffs. You know, the thing in the title of the thread.

But it is absolutely relative, and that's why you will continue to be ignorant.

And that's your way of not answering because you have no idea what's going on.

 

[Geo]

You have weird ideas about conservatives.

She has no idea who is what. I don't consider myself a conservative, more of a Libertarian.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

You have weird ideas about conservatives.

Those aren't even my ideas. Those characteristics define conservativism according to literally every single study about the differences between conservatives and liberals.

 

[VonBonfire]

She has no idea who is what. I don't consider myself a conservative, more of a Libertarian.

I consider myself a moron who is just barely intelligent enough to not need a government to tell me what to do. Not sure what political party that falls under but definitely sure I don't care.

 

[Geo]

Those aren't even my ideas. Those characteristics define conservativism according to literally every single study about the differences between conservatives and liberals.

You are confusing liberals with libtards.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

But it is absolutely relative, and that's why you will continue to be ignorant.

And that's your way of not answering because you have no idea what's going on.

I think the word you're looking for is "relevant."

Either way, if you want to go in that direction, then the question for this thread is how exactly you think Trump's tariffs will improve a possible US default in 2028.

 

[VonBonfire]

Those aren't even my ideas. Those characteristics define conservativism according to literally every single study about the differences between conservatives and liberals.

Only a moron would take the time to survey conservatives for what they believe but while we are at it those surveys basically show that conservatives are more satisfied with life on average, have more money on average, and the women are better looking on average so it just leads me to conclude that being very liberal is a sure fire way to live a miserable bitch of a life, as though it weren't problematic enough already. To top if off the most satisfied people are very devout religious conservatives. Anyways, nothing you said about conservatives has anything to do with any conservatives I know, and I am in TX and gig down in Comal all the time=very conservative.

 

[Geo]

then the question for this thread is how exactly you think Trump's tariffs will improve a possible US default in 2028.

You need to dig a bit deeper for the answer to that question. Unfortunately, you only have a spoon.