New to Rig-talk, new to Diezel. Introduction & few questions

[hermetico]

Please listen to uncle Terry

I will but... sorry, who is Terry?

Duolos

Thanks
(the mistery is revealed)

 

[hermetico]

They were good enough (speaker and instrument) for Jimi and SRV, so they're good enough for Diezel. If you can't find them then I would suggest George L cables. Check out the attachment.

I read the whole attachment, thank you.

What cables used Jimi and SRV (I don't find the info inside)?

That attachment seems to point you to Evidence Audio cables.
I just checked the prices and to have: 2 x 6m Lyric HG, 4 x 4m Lyric HG, 3 m of Monorail and 2 x 1,5m of The Siren II, I need to expend more than 700 EUR (a lot more if I have to buy the plugs for the monorail, to link my pedalboard of 11 effects units) .

My Koch Studiotone Combo costed me 865 EUR
My Prestige Heritage Standard costed me 650 (crossing the ocean and satisfying custom's fees)

so... I CANNOT BELIEVE that there isn't any other cheaper and nice sounding solution!.

 

[synchu]

I would not put myself into chasing the tonal difference from a cable. Might be there (and probably it is), but just get a normal speaker and guitar cable and you will be set.

Cordial, Klotz, Planet Waves - all fine cables and get the work done.

 

[King Crimson]

And yes, I am a Noob (talking about heads and cabs), as I adviced but, hell!, I look a lot better than this ugly man (maybe, did you take that shot while looking to your mirror? )

That's my sister, BLOKE!!!

Get yourself some George L Cables,they are the best sounding and reliable instrument cables in the world. I would suggest 0.225". And that's not my opinion.

 

[hermetico]

And yes, I am a Noob (talking about heads and cabs), as I adviced but, hell!, I look a lot better than this ugly man (maybe, did you take that shot while looking to your mirror? )

That's my sister, BLOKE!!!

Oh!, I see, TWINS!

Get yourself some George L Cables,they are the best sounding and reliable instrument cables in the world. I would suggest 0.225". And that's not my opinion.

Thanks, mate, I was considering it. Also expensive but, about half of evidence ones.

 

[hermetico]

Ok.
I ordered the George L's cables for everything:
.155 for pedalboard
.225 for guitar/pedalboard/amp cables
and the specific speaker cables

As I already own some other cables (no name, fender, cordial, klotz) I will be able to compare them and see if the GLs make the difference or not.

 

[wolfeman28]

Ok.
I ordered the George L's cables for everything:
.155 for pedalboard
.225 for guitar/pedalboard/amp cables
and the specific speaker cables

As I already own some other cables (no name, fender, cordial, klotz) I will be able to compare them and see if the GLs make the difference or not.

I would have just gone with .225 alla round, but the .155 isn't much difference...

And yes, you will hear a difference in them.

BTW, are you using the George L quick connectors or are you soldering some on? I solder on my own ends and I trust them 100 times more than the quick connects.

Just for fun here is my DIY George L cable, this is my main cable from guitar to rack/pedal board.

 

[hermetico]

BTW, are you using the George L quick connectors or are you soldering some on? I solder on my own ends and I trust them 100 times more than the quick connects.

I have no problem with soldering tasks but, I am going to use the quick connects because I am not going to gig so, it should be fine for me. If I experience problems then, I will get some neutrik plugs and will do the work.

 

[King Crimson]

BTW, are you using the George L quick connectors or are you soldering some on? I solder on my own ends and I trust them 100 times more than the quick connects.

I don't know why you would state that about the solder-less connectors. The whole point of George L cables are not to introduce any interference to the dielectric and center conductor. Using a solder defeats the whole purpose and design of George L cables. I've got 6 0.225 15' George L cables that I've had for more than 6 years, they have been all over with me and have never failed me, once!

"George L's low capacitance Co-ax Cable with special anti-stat will enhance your sound no matter what the size of your total rig happens to be.
No stripping or soldering is required. Just cut the cable, select the plug desired and tighten it down.

If you take a look at the cross sectional view you can see a braided shield with a dielectric and a center conductor. Simply put this is absolutely the best method for conducting audio as well as video signal. Benefits include, almost no signal radiation ingress or egress which is very handy when gigging live. Live gigs leave you at the mercy of any one who maybe transmitting RF around you (cell phones, radio, etc..).

George L cable is your first and best defense against extraneous noises from these types of interference. In our opinion, George L cable delivers the best sonic results for guitarists especially those using sensitive tube amplifiers and low output pickups. You can hear the improvement when switching from standard signal cables."

In seconds, cut and plug-n-play...

 

[hermetico]

Yup!.
I wanted to try first the stuff "as designed" so, good advice.

 

[wolfeman28]

I don't know why you would state that about the solder-less connectors.

Because it's true. You, and many others, may not have had problems, and that's great, but I don't trust cables that don't have a true hard connection. I didn't say the solderless plugs are bad, just that IMO I don't like doing that.

The whole point of George L cables are not to introduce any interference to the dielectric and center conductor.

I never said it didn't. It is designed well like Mogami and other good cable brands...

Using a solder defeats the whole purpose and design of George L cables.

Why do you say that? Using solder defeats the purpose of using the soldrless plugs, yes, but it doesn't defeat the purpose of the cable. The connector is just your termination of the cable. That sound difference you get with cables is the cable itself, it has nothing to do with the plug..... I like the piece of mind knowing that my cable is never going to come apart at the jack because 'I' did it myself....

I've got 6 0.225 15' George L cables that I've had for more than 6 years, they have been all over with me and have never failed me, once!

So do I, and so do many other people... I don't get the point of your post... I was just throwing it out there as an option for him, no need to bash on soldering.....

 

[King Crimson]

...I was just throwing it out there as an option for him, no need to bash on soldering.....

I hate soldering... and I'm sure soldering hates me, too!

 

[wolfeman28]

...I was just throwing it out there as an option for him, no need to bash on soldering.....

I hate soldering... and I'm sure soldering hates me, too!

Get practicing!!!

 

[synchu]

Yeah, if you solder 2-3 hours a day, and start slowwwwly at 20-30 connections per hour, then increase speed gradually you will soon be able to do 140 per hour

I always feel kind of uncertain about using plugs that are not soldered to the cable. Just feel as there something is going to break any minute. Sure it is psychological thingy only, but nonetheless I prefer soldered...

 

[hermetico]

I don't know why you would state that about the solder-less connectors.

Because it's true. You, and many others, may not have had problems, and that's great, but I don't trust cables that don't have a true hard connection. I didn't say the solderless plugs are bad, just that IMO I don't like doing that.

The whole point of George L cables are not to introduce any interference to the dielectric and center conductor.

I never said it didn't. It is designed well like Mogami and other good cable brands...

Using a solder defeats the whole purpose and design of George L cables.

Why do you say that? Using solder defeats the purpose of using the soldrless plugs, yes, but it doesn't defeat the purpose of the cable. The connector is just your termination of the cable. That sound difference you get with cables is the cable itself, it has nothing to do with the plug..... I like the piece of mind knowing that my cable is never going to come apart at the jack because 'I' did it myself....

I've got 6 0.225 15' George L cables that I've had for more than 6 years, they have been all over with me and have never failed me, once!

So do I, and so do many other people... I don't get the point of your post... I was just throwing it out there as an option for him, no need to bash on soldering.....

Peace man!, you gave me a nice option to avoid to loose the link between the cable and the plug and, I heared a lot of George L's users claiming about that so, that's fine.

But, he is also right!. Soldering points can increase the noise in the audio signal, specially 'cold solderings'. So, I also understood his point.

As I stated above, I am not gigging so, I prefere the "as designed" way but, if I had to gig, I'd probably go for soldered neutrik plugs (to avoid unwanted surprises).