Not getting along with my speakers

[racerevlon]

I'm finding more and more that I'm less and less happy with Celestion G12T-75's and V30's--seems I like the H30's way more, but unfortunately I only have one cabinet with H30's.

Something I may be able to EQ, or am I just hosed and need to buy a grip of speakers and set aside a day?

Viable options to the G12T-75's and V30's? Who's using what these days?

Thanks RT!

 

[moltenmetalburn]

What about the wgs offerings particularyly the hm75? I have teo like new veteran 30 for sale also, mix em with the real v30 maybe...

 

[mightywarlock]

there are other brands other than Celestion.

we can take a drive down to Scumback for good comparisons there...

then there's tone tubby's,

hempcones...

etc.

there's more to life than Celestions.

and each cab sounds different too.

while I was at the Diezel Booth, I tried 3 cabs through the same VH4, and all were tonally totally different.
do you like scooped, or in your face? (front vs. rear loaded)
what style are you really trying to play?
I have hated t75's, for years. I am giving them another shot with this new Bogner cab I picked up recently in an X pattern with V30's. still not sure I can deal with them.
V30's and K100's work very well together. K100's by themselves...iffy for me.
like that new Egnater cab for the new Armageddon and Vengeance amps, those are X patterned v30's and K100's. I think? or was it K100 and t75?

problem with cabs are, they sound different in different environments.

a cab at my place may sound different at your place.

and then selling a cab is really hard.

cheapest way is to just try out different speakers and see what works best?

 

[RockStarNick]

You've already got two V30s in there... why not try two more? (I know I know... there are a TON of V30 haters out there.)

Every time I play a cab with T75's, I just hate the sound. It's just sounds really nasally, scooped, and weird. Like a 15 year old kid who set his Boss EQ pedal to a "V" shape, and thinks it sounds awesome.

 

[srinivassa]

V30s are good even-sounding speakers to me. Nice hi, lo, and mid.

75's are very drop-tune metal sounding to me. They have a lot of low end, and not much searing gain on solos.

There are a lot of options. Personally, I'd point the finger at the 75s, but you have your reasons for ditching the V30s.

If I kept the 75's, I'd probably use something more high end and either go honky or piercing to really contrast those 75's. My first choice would be Super Lead 80. That gives you a ton of sparkle on cleans and a lot of sear on solos. But something like a tonker or a tone tubby would round out the tone with more of a vintage snarl. If you like the 75's, swamp thang is a good compliment to give you a swamp box with enough mids to tear up high gain solos.

It's hard to eq down your speakers. That's one of the things I like about having a good pair. You have to play into their strengths more than fight against them. I haven't heard the H30's. I have a Century G12 and a Vintage G12. Does H30 have the heavy magnet? Cause I love heavy magnets. That may be something to look at. Okay, G12H is the heavy magnet. G12 Heritage is the 65W medium magnet. Not sure which you meant.

It sounds like you would most likely want something with a lot of low end, but more growl than the 75's. That's the big hang up about 75's for me, they don't sing out on leads. Maybe something with good mids but not as boggy as a swamp thang. There is a cool little side-by-side at youtube I'll point you to. Sometime when I'm not at work.

 

[jerrydyer]

a very underated speaker
the Weber 12-65 there 65 watt version of an original 30 watt celestion but with a slight treble rolloff. I have them side by side in a cab and the weber just seems like the perfect improvment on the vintage 30 sound.

 

[lester]

Is this a Bogner Uberkab? If not, why don't you try setting it up like one. Get your dacron fill, speaker wire and don't forget that black paint for the mojo. Seriously the Uber is the best 30/75 I've heard, set it up like that.

 

[PaulyPanacea]

Race...what head are you using with this?? I like the V30/G12K100 combo with my VH4... and all V30 with my Herbert. i really havent strayed too much from that except for all G12K100 when i got it. Sounded great but missed the V30.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

a very underated speaker
the Weber 12-65 there 65 watt version of an original 30 watt celestion but with a slight treble rolloff. I have them side by side in a cab and the weber just seems like the perfect improvment on the vintage 30 sound.

Their site says it's the g12 -65 tone not the v30 ?

 

[Scumback Speakers]

racerevlon: Somewhere in this pile you can probably find your tone. I've got a demo at 11 am tomorrow, but maybe around 12:30-1pm if you can manage it.

Or figure out if an evening/weekend works. Now that the demo room is almost done (needs the ceiling/wall treatments), you can crank your 50 or 100w (as Brad did last weekend) and it sounds like a TV got turned on outside.

 

[SuperFlyinMonke]

^ GOOD GOD!!! That would be amazing.

 

[axemeaquestion]

I'm finding more and more that I'm less and less happy with Celestion G12T-75's and V30's--seems I like the H30's way more, but unfortunately I only have one cabinet with H30's.

Something I may be able to EQ, or am I just hosed and need to buy a grip of speakers and set aside a day?

Viable options to the G12T-75's and V30's? Who's using what these days?

Thanks RT!

Have you considered changing the wood on your guitar? I've heard that can impact the tone.

 

[Ventura]

racerevlon: Somewhere in this pile you can probably find your tone. I've got a demo at 11 am tomorrow, but maybe around 12:30-1pm if you can manage it.

Or figure out if an evening/weekend works. Now that the demo room is almost done (needs the ceiling/wall treatments), you can crank your 50 or 100w (as Brad did last weekend) and it sounds like a TV got turned on outside.

HOLY MOTHER OF....!!!!!

Talk about a MANPOD!!!!!

Sweet Baby Jesus...
V.

 

[racerevlon]

racerevlon: Somewhere in this pile you can probably find your tone. I've got a demo at 11 am tomorrow, but maybe around 12:30-1pm if you can manage it.

Or figure out if an evening/weekend works. Now that the demo room is almost done (needs the ceiling/wall treatments), you can crank your 50 or 100w (as Brad did last weekend) and it sounds like a TV got turned on outside.

I'm going to be down that way on Saturday, I believe. Can you shoot me an e-mail?

 

[SuperFlyinMonke]

Dear Mr. Scumback,

Your basement is epic, but you need a real couch, dude.

-A jealous admirer.

 

[Scumback Speakers]

Dear Mr. Scumback,

Your basement is epic, but you need a real couch, dude.

-A jealous admirer.

Thanks for the jealousy (no, really!). Actually that couch was chosen for what it could do.

1) You can sit on it.
2) It reclines (not shown).
3) It flattens out to a bed.

No arms on purpose in case other activities occur which may or may not include guitar straps for bondage, etc.

There's also a 3/4 bath attached, a 25,000 BTU A/C unit so you keep cool while power tubes are glowing and giving off radiant heat.

And just so you know, six more cabs have showed up since that pic was taken.

 

[troublehead]

I suggest you check out the WGS Retro 30's. I can't say enough good things about them for rock/metal. They replaced the UK V30's in my Orange and put a dead halt to all my speaker swapping madness.

 

[Ventura]

I suggest you check out the WGS Retro 30's. I can't say enough good things about them for rock/metal. They replaced the UK V30's in my Orange and put a dead halt to all my speaker swapping madness.

I dunno guys, I just can't wrap my head around WGS...

Scumback
Tone Tubby
Celestion
Eminence
Jensen

Seems to me jsut off the top of my head, there's lots to choose from...

V.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

G12 65s

you'll thank me later

 

[racerevlon]

G12 65s

you'll thank me later

How is it I've overlooked this speaker for this long?

Great suggestion--thanks!