Ok... I lied... "PeaceMaker Clip" is the Axe-FX direct!!

[Anonymous]

Here is a comment from HCAF AFTER I said it was the Axe-FX. I love it!!!

"Digital cardboard for sure... To compressed and it doesn't have that loose speaker kinda thing going. Sounds fine for what it is."

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Those pics looks exactly the same as the "progress" pics you posted a week ago


*hurry the eff up man, i'm dying to hear this thing!

I haven't taken any new pictures since then. Too busy building...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Note to self: Avoid sah5150's clips so as to avoid deception!

I will never do this again, but you have to admit, it sounds like a real amp....

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

any clips of the egnater seminar amp?

with the axe-fx?

I have a whole song almost finished that is all Seminar amp. I just need to do the leads for a couple sections and it is ready to go. No Axe-FX on it though...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

I assumed it was a PM. I complimented the playing, and made one observation on the tone.

I've added my guitar to album tracks as well. I miss this amp every day-

https://soundclick.com/share?songid=5568051

Like I said, all good man! It was just an experiment. I have real amps too...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

[quoteIt's easy to fake the ear with recording. You played (and blended your guitar/Axe-FX) to a VH track.
Pat is right. Isolate the guitar by itself....its a different story.

One more comment about this. Isn't the point to get a good guitar tone in a mix? I mean, who cares what the guitar sounds like isolated by itself? The whole point is to make music, which requires other musicians playing together. I say if it sounds good in the mix, then it is good. I mean... the ONLY guitar you are hearing in that clip is mine. It is not like Eddie's guitar is mixed in and fooling anybody... I just took the left side of the track and panned it center. With how loud my guitar is on the left side, the reverb of Ed's guitar on the left side is so low it is impossible to hear...

Another example... Eddie's solo on "Beat It" sounds GREAT in the mix, but that clip that is floating around that is just the guitar alone sounds like crap...

 

[jcj]

[quoteIt's easy to fake the ear with recording. You played (and blended your guitar/Axe-FX) to a VH track.
Pat is right. Isolate the guitar by itself....its a different story.

One more comment about this. Isn't the point to get a good guitar tone in a mix? I mean, who cares what the guitar sounds like isolated by itself? The whole point is to make music, which requires other musicians playing together. I say if it sounds good in the mix, then it is good. I mean... the ONLY guitar you are hearing in that clip is mine. It is not like Eddie's guitar is mixed in and fooling anybody... I just took the left side of the track and panned it center. With how loud my guitar is on the left side, the reverb of Ed's guitar on the left side is so low it is impossible to hear...

Another example... Eddie's solo on "Beat It" sounds GREAT in the mix, but that clip that is floating around that is just the guitar alone sounds like crap...

100% truth. Often what sounds great solo, doesn't work very well in a mix.

 

[Anonymous]

[quoteIt's easy to fake the ear with recording. You played (and blended your guitar/Axe-FX) to a VH track.
Pat is right. Isolate the guitar by itself....its a different story.

One more comment about this. Isn't the point to get a good guitar tone in a mix? I mean, who cares what the guitar sounds like isolated by itself? The whole point is to make music, which requires other musicians playing together. I say if it sounds good in the mix, then it is good. I mean... the ONLY guitar you are hearing in that clip is mine. It is not like Eddie's guitar is mixed in and fooling anybody... I just took the left side of the track and panned it center. With how loud my guitar is on the left side, the reverb of Ed's guitar on the left side is so low it is impossible to hear...

Another example... Eddie's solo on "Beat It" sounds GREAT in the mix, but that clip that is floating around that is just the guitar alone sounds like crap...

As I said, you can fake the ear in recordings. That thing aint for me though. Ill stick to my 100 watt amps

I'll take my 100 Watt tube amps AND the Axe-FX.

Steve

 

[cyndicate]

Sounds great to me! I was expecting these to pop up soon, but I wasn't able to tell it was the Axe either. Can you post the patch for some of us please

 

[Anonymous]

As I said, you can fake the ear in recordings. That thing aint for me though.

If the purpose of recording is to create music with other musicians and the guitar sounds good with them in a mix, what is being "faked"?

Steve

 

[ttosh]

I'll take my 100 Watt tube amps AND the Axe-FX.
Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Can you post the patch for some of us please

Of course! I'll put it up at the exchange shortly...

Steve

 

[cyndicate]

Can you post the patch for some of us please

Of course! I'll put it up at the exchange shortly...

Steve

Awesome thanks!

 

[ttosh]

As I said, you can fake the ear in recordings. That thing aint for me though.

If the purpose of recording is to create music with other musicians and the guitar sounds good with them in a mix, what is being "faked"?

Steve

IMO, digital simulation is indeed "fake". IMO it doesnt sound good. I dont like digital effects too much either.
I guess Im old school. guitar a few pedals and cranked amp.

Ive tried using digital shit to lay guitar tracks and I dont like it.
I like a big amp and a miked speaker.
I like vinyl albums too. I prefer ANALOG

Surprised you ever made it to the Electric Guitar at all. Acoustic would be less fake and the most pure for a purist such as yourself.

 

[Anonymous]

IMO, digital simulation is indeed "fake". IMO it doesnt sound good. I dont like digital effects too much either.
I guess Im old school. guitar a few pedals and cranked amp.

Ive tried using digital shit to lay guitar tracks and I dont like it.
I like a big amp and a miked speaker.
I like vinyl albums too. I prefer ANALOG

Ok, rock on, man... I just don't hear anything "fake" about that guitar tone in the context of that clip...

Steve

 

[ttosh]

IMO, digital simulation is indeed "fake". IMO it doesnt sound good. I dont like digital effects too much either.
I guess Im old school. guitar a few pedals and cranked amp.

Ive tried using digital shit to lay guitar tracks and I dont like it.
I like a big amp and a miked speaker.
I like vinyl albums too. I prefer ANALOG

Ok, rock on, man... I just don't hear anything "fake" about that guitar tone in the context of that clip...

Steve

Steve your playing and the tone sounded incredible on that clip.... Sucks to be on the end not knowing it was not a real amp (you know 1s and 0s), but still the point stands the tone sounds excellent!

 

[mentoneman]

[quoteIt's easy to fake the ear with recording. You played (and blended your guitar/Axe-FX) to a VH track.
Pat is right. Isolate the guitar by itself....its a different story.

One more comment about this. Isn't the point to get a good guitar tone in a mix? I mean, who cares what the guitar sounds like isolated by itself? The whole point is to make music, which requires other musicians playing together. I say if it sounds good in the mix, then it is good. I mean... the ONLY guitar you are hearing in that clip is mine. It is not like Eddie's guitar is mixed in and fooling anybody... I just took the left side of the track and panned it center. With how loud my guitar is on the left side, the reverb of Ed's guitar on the left side is so low it is impossible to hear...

Another example... Eddie's solo on "Beat It" sounds GREAT in the mix, but that clip that is floating around that is just the guitar alone sounds like crap...

i agree with you 100 percent.
i'm just interested in the iso clip due to selfish personal edumacational reasons. was the touch way easier to play with than the PM?
i know you know what i mean....

and what carl was mentioning about the low E...i hear it too, and i've struggled in that regard with the POD and the Vox valvetronix modellers to add some low mid body to the tone, but the mids aren't quite clear enough or targeted properly, and there becomes no other way than to add bass, which wasn't ideal but it was all i had, therefore a compromise.

on the other hand the peacemaker's tone controls were very exacting in those areas..the mids...and allowed you to be as dry or as full in the mids as you desired. and you added low end (and extra grit) by thumping the cab/speakers harder.

preaching to choir..axe-fx sounds sophisticated enough to find a way to surgically control all aspects eventually.

 

[Anonymous]

Steve your playing and the tone sounded incredible on that clip.... Sucks to be on the end not knowing it was not a real amp (you know 1s and 0s), but still the point stands the tone sounds excellent!

Thanks man! And, I apologize for duping everyone. I won't do that again ever here, but I just had to see if anyone would call modeler... It was an interesting experiment...

Steve

 

[mentoneman]

Steve your playing and the tone sounded incredible on that clip.... Sucks to be on the end not knowing it was not a real amp (you know 1s and 0s), but still the point stands the tone sounds excellent!

Thanks man! And, I apologize for duping everyone. I won't do that again ever here, but I just had to see if anyone would call modeler... It was an interesting experiment...

Steve

i don't think you need to apologize man....it's what it is! all good!

 

[Anonymous]

i agree with you 100 percent.
i'm just interested in the iso clip due to selfish personal edumacational reasons..

I was sure that was the case and I'm happy to oblige... I'll post just the guitar track two ways when I get home. One - the "straight from the Axe" track and Two the same track with the post EQ I did in Logic to make it sit in the mix more like the original. I bet ANYTHING that most will like the first one better, although it doesn not sound as good in the mix or as close to the original as the EQ'd version...

was the touch way easier to play with than the PM?
i know you know what i mean.....

No, it was NOT way easier to play. Felt like a real mid-gain Marshall to me...

and what carl was mentioning about the low E...i hear it too, and i've struggled in that regard with the POD and the Vox valvetronix modellers to add some low mid body to the tone, but the mids aren't quite clear enough or targeted properly, and there becomes no other way than to add bass, which wasn't ideal but it was all i had, therefore a compromise..

I don't hear it like you and carl, but I almost guarantee what is being heard is the EQ hump I added in Logic at 160Hz. I think if I slightly lowered that hump, I'd still get the low end thump without what you guys are experiencing...

on the other hand the peacemaker's tone controls were very exacting in those areas..the mids...and allowed you to be as dry or as full in the mids as you desired. and you added low end (and extra grit) by thumping the cab/speakers harder.

No doubt - you gotta use your ears and good and bad results can be had with even the best equipment -tube amps or modelers. There is no magic formula like some people want. I be I could post my preset and people who don't play like I do will hate it. You gotta have the heavy fretboard hand and especially the heavy picking hand to make it sound like VH... NOt that I can play like Ed at all, but you know what I mean...

preaching to choir..axe-fx sounds sophisticated enough to find a way to surgically control all aspects eventually.

I would say you can get just about whatever you want out of this thing if you want to put in the time...

Steve