One cab! G12-65’s ‘83 or g12 vintage ‘87

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Can’t buy both atm sorry.

Original JCM800 with G12-65’s

Or

Marshall Silver Jubilee with original G12 Vintage!
 
Ironically I have both and I prefer my '83 65's a tad more. Honestly there isn't a whole lot of difference between them. They both sound amazing with my Marshall amps.
 
The 65s sound bigger and smoother and a great with cleans as well. I was a doe hard V30 guy until the 65s
 
Both are great but don't overlook their efficiencies. The G12V are considerably louder at 100db/1m vs 97db/1m for the 65s.
 
I am a huge fan of 65s.

But, in this case I’m gonna say grab the Jubilee cab with the 8 ohm vintages. I have an 800 cab with them, and to my ear they sound like an improved 65 with better mids and nice tight lows. No harshness like many V30s can have. Very different from any V30 I’ve played. Since getting this cab I rarely play my 65 cab. It’s that good.
 
scottosan said:
The 65s sound bigger and smoother and a great with cleans as well. I was a doe hard V30 guy until the 65s
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These original 8 ohm versions from 1985-1990 are unlike any V30 that’s come after them. The 1991 and newer versions, that you find in the AV/BV cabs are far brighter.
 
I hate 65s. They don’t play well with SLO types of circuits at all and have an odd mid frequency with those styles of amps. They also have a massive top end rolloff that isn’t the true representation of the amplifier.

At least V30s don’t have a preference and work with everything.

I vote V30s.
 
glpg80 said:
I hate 65s. They don’t play well with SLO types of circuits at all and have an odd mid frequency with those styles of amps. They also have a massive top end rolloff that isn’t the true representation of the amplifier.

At least V30s don’t have a preference and work with everything.

I vote V30s.
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Depends on the 65. There were 40 something versions lol....The first version T3120s have a greenback-ish top end. I've also had a cab from 1983 that reacted like you describe.
That brighter version sounded really good with my first SLO...but only after I boosted it.
 
All of these people are fucking deaf. The OG g12s from that era are god tier speakers. They are incredible sounding, and not dark and soft like those 65s.

Jesus. If you don’t want it let me know where to buy it.
 
glpg80 said:
I hate 65s. They don’t play well with SLO types of circuits at all and have an odd mid frequency with those styles of amps. They also have a massive top end rolloff that isn’t the true representation of the amplifier.

At least V30s don’t have a preference and work with everything.

I vote V30s.
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EXACTLY. Dark as all fuck, and soft. I can’t stand these speakers, no idea how so many people like them.
 
VESmedic said:
EXACTLY. Dark as all fuck, and soft. I can’t stand these speakers, no idea how so many people like them.
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T3120s are not dark…they are much like a high powered GB. The early 80s versions can be darker….but with a Marshall, pretty easy to turn up the presence/treble.
 
I also have a mid 00’s 1960BV. Would I even benefit from getting the old ones?
 
peterc52 said:
I also have a mid 00’s 1960BV. Would I even benefit from getting the old ones?
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They are all a lottery, but I do love the early ones. I have Marshall g12s from 1991, 94, 05, 19 etc. they are all different but not because certain years are better, but because of the nature of speaker production and the inconsistency of that process itself.
 
peterc52 said:
I also have a mid 00’s 1960BV. Would I even benefit from getting the old ones?
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Yes. It’s like they aren’t even related….I’ve had a 1991 BV cab, and it sounded like frying bacon in the high end vs my 1988 cab that has no harsh highs whatsoever.
Lol I kid a bit but the extended highs on the 16 ohm versions in the 90s on, are a very different sound. The 8 ohm version are a very fat and warm sound, no harshness in the mids/highs with tight abundant lows.
 
peterc52 said:
Yup
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Very different from a 16 ohm cab. Not better of worse. But very different.

My guess is it would be almost like comparing a well-worn-in Mesa Trad cab with more 80's Marshall mojo vs your Marshall 1960BV.
 
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