Paganini's Caprice no. 5 on One Guitar - Marcin (Live Session)

[harddriver]

Yngwie might be a bit jealous..............................

 

[Monkey Man]

Anyone in the market for a 6-string tennis racquet?

 

[braintheory]

That's cute and all, but this is how it sounds played by some of the best classical guitarists:










Here's a video when Marcin played it when he was younger on classical:


As a piece of music, I think it doesn't really show any emotional depth, but it shows speed (that's the point), but even technically it doesn't show as much as a good amount of slower pieces other than raw speed and slurs (aka hammer ons and pull offs)

This is another guitar piece by a monster player in the same ballpark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtFrs3VxuQ

 

[Monkey Man]

Yes, I did have to listen really-hard to discern what notes he was playing a lot of the time.

There were timing issues too.

Perhaps he'll be the Andre Rieu of classical geetar - competent and flamboyant-enough to sell it to the masses.

 

[braintheory]

Yes, I did have to listen really-hard to discern what notes he was playing a lot of the time.

There were timing issues too.

Perhaps he'll be the Andre Rieu of classical geetar - competent and flamboyant-enough to sell it to the masses.

With those top classical players the notes, timing, and musical intentions like phrasing and dynamics are all crystal clear

 

[Monkey Man]

Exactly brother.

The kid in the last clip fretted a few notes improperly here and there so I probably wouldn't have included that particular one in the collection. Just me?

 

[braintheory]

Exactly brother.

The last kid fretted a few notes improperly here and there so I probably wouldn't have included that particular clip in the collection. Just me?

That last kid was the same who played in those videos Hardriver posted. That was the point. He was younger when he did classical

Not trying to be a dick, but honestly he was missing notes left and right, rushing a lot, thin, bad tone, but for his age sounded impressive

 

[Monkey Man]

I'd never have guessed. It's as if he were let out of the asylum.

So, not quite articulating all notes properly is something that stayed with him.

Judging by the reaction of his peers in the background, I can't help but wonder if dreams of becoming a hero took over to some extent.

 

[Monkey Man]

Oh, I only just saw your description above the video. Should have read it.

 

[braintheory]

I'd never have guessed. It's as if he were let out of the asylum.

So, not quite articulating all notes properly is something that stayed with him.

Judging by the reaction of his peers in the background, I can't help but wonder if dreams of becoming a hero took over to some extent.

With classical guitar if you're not very accurate you have no chance of getting anywhere, so many try different paths later on. Speed alone isn't impressive in that world (I tried that lol didn't work)

 

[Monkey Man]

... like Andre Rieu with violin.

 

[braintheory]

... like Andre Rieu with violin.

I'm gonna have to google him lol. With electric, I guess musical creativity is more expected of the player than just technique, so it seems if they at least have that, their playing itself doesn't have to be perfect to make it

 

[Monkey Man]

He's probably the most-famous "classical" musician of all time these days. 40 million CDs / DVDs sold, 30 #1 chart positions worldwide...

He didn't go electric. Just common-denominator popular.

Kinda like what Sir James Galway (nicknamed The Man with the Golden Flute) did for flute back in the day.

 

[Monkey Man]

Just thinking about it, Galway may not be a perfect analogous example 'cause the dude could play.

He did popularise the flute big-time 'though.

When I was a kid this was his biggest hit:



Then later on (I think) came The Pink Panther and many others:



Point being, I can see that kid doing something like this, but as I think we agree, his lack of dedication to classical accuracy will keep that particular door shut. My mum was a classical pianist so I know exactly where you're coming from.

 

[braintheory]

He's probably the most-famous "classical" musician of all time these days. 40 million CDs / DVDs sold, 30 #1 chart positions worldwide...

He didn't go electric. Just common-denominator popular.

Kinda like what Sir James Galway (nicknamed The Man with the Golden Flute) did for flute back in the day.

Ah ok. To be honest, I live in a small world where I mostly just know of the classical guitarists and electric guitarists from when I was in high school. Some of my favorite classical players though are Emil Gilels (absolutely glorious playing) on piano and Perlman on violin. Galway I know

 

[braintheory]

Just thinking about it, Galway may not be a perfect analogous example 'cause the dude could play.

He did popularise the flute big-time 'though.

When I was a kid this was his biggest hit:



Then later on (I think) came The Pink Panther and many others:



Point being, I can see that kid doing something like this, but as I think we agree, his lack of dedication to classical accuracy will keep that particular door shut. My mum was a classical pianist so I know exactly where you're coming from.

Yeah the practice needed for that accuracy is painful and beyond mind numbing, not that I'm there yet myself, but working on it, so a lot of guys quit. I always procrastinate that kinda practice myself lol. It fries my brain more than anything else I've ever had to do. No exaggeration. It's a shame that it's a lot of investment for in some ways a low payoff

 

[Monkey Man]

Indeed brother.

The thing is, we're not machines. Well, technically we are, but you know what I mean. That sort of stuff doesn't typically come naturally to any of us.

 

[gbsmusic]

Seeing people like this is actually play kinda depressing. No matter how much I practice I will never ever be that good. That is God-given talent, very impressive!

 

[braintheory]

Indeed brother.

The thing is, we're not machines. Well, technically we are, but you know what I mean. That sort of stuff doesn't typically come naturally to any of us.

I think it comes more naturally to some than others. The accuracy part didn't come naturally to me, had to work hard for that part and still lots to do to get there, but speed always came pretty easily to me, but that alone isn't enough or anything great

Shawn Lane also has said in interviews I remember that he would get the speed first and then work on cleaning it up (the opposite approach classical players take). With the speed he plays, it's honestly hard for me to discern how accurate he is, but he sounds really good overall to me

 

[Monkey Man]

I think it comes more naturally to some than others.

Yup, which is why I said:

... That sort of stuff doesn't typically come naturally to any of us.

There are a few freaks out there, but robotic performance ability eludes the vast majority.

Seeing people like this is actually play kinda depressing. No matter how much I practice I will never ever be that good. That is God-given talent, very impressive!

Yup. It's deflating Greg!