Place your bets....Will the Kemper fad go away or grow???

[59Bassman]

This all seems vaguely familiar.....

But it's a game changer! However, the game has been changed soooooo many times in the past few years I forgot what sport we were playing.

I can't help it. Every time I hear "game changer" used to describe a product, I think of golf....

I bet the outro music was recorded with a Kemper.

 

[Rogue]

The only product I've ever bought that COMPLETELY 100 PERCENT lives up to the hype... I can't say enough about it... It is fucking incredible.. I've said it before, i feel bad for those who don't own one ... The proof is in the pudding... These huge megaproducers aren't using the axe or talkig about the axe like they do the kemper.... I mean it is what it is, you can't deny that, that is a fact, not an opinion.if nothing you have heard, read, or seen about it will change your mind, then nothing will, and thats fine...at this point, frankly, in it's 1 year infancy, it has already been established as a game changer, end of story, call it what you want

Well, I think we have found our Scott Peterson of Kemper.

 

[thiswaythatway]

The only product I've ever bought that COMPLETELY 100 PERCENT lives up to the hype... I can't say enough about it... It is fucking incredible.. I've said it before, i feel bad for those who don't own one ... The proof is in the pudding... These huge megaproducers aren't using the axe or talkig about the axe like they do the kemper.... I mean it is what it is, you can't deny that, that is a fact, not an opinion.if nothing you have heard, read, or seen about it will change your mind, then nothing will, and thats fine...at this point, frankly, in it's 1 year infancy, it has already been established as a game changer, end of story, call it what you want

Well, I think we have found our Scott Peterson of Kemper.

Good thing he's not a moderator or you would be banned already.

 

[Rogue]

It may grow, but it won't be necessarily as the Kemper.

The digital world is here to stay, for sure. Currently, the Kemper can deliver the most realistic tones in a digital format. However, I think as technology progresses forward, algorithms and processing power will finally allow modelers to recreate a tube amp. It may still take some time, but eventually they'll be able to really model all the details and it'll feel and sound great. I don't know that the Kemper in its present format will compete with that, so it may be a temporary thing.

Hats off to Cliff Chase for doing what he's done, but he keeps fucking with shit all the time and the AxeFX tends to sound more modeler like as time goes on. But even at its best, it wasn't there yet. I DO think the Kemper will force the modeler market to raise its bar...or at least someone to raise the bar.

 

[Rogue]

Good thing he's not a moderator or you would be banned already.

This is all playing out just like the AxeFX did. Hype and sensitivity surround the unit. Fun stuff.

I will say many of the clips sound great. The AxeFX may have more effects, and perhaps more friendly live, but the Kemper hands down beats it on tone. That said, I also remember the AxeFX clips sounding great at the time too.

 

[ejecta]

People would rather spend 3500 for an amp than 5 for a bundle of profiles that are only 92.5 % as good.

You might...... no way in hell I'd spend $3500 on a tube head again. Been there done that several times and wont make that mistake again. I would argue that those high end heads don't give you 100% satisfaction either after watching a shit ton of them being whored around these forums.

 

[Heritage Softail]

The irony of discussing if the Kemper will be obsolete in a year, on a forum for hair metal and rock that has been obsolete for decades.

We like what we like. We will play what we want to play. If the music is good, it speaks for itself.

 

[ibenhad]

For me I will be getting the Kemper no if's, and's or butts about it. That way I can profile all my amps leave them in the Studio and not worry about beating the hell out of them at gigs. Seems like the perfect tool. Hell I won't even have to fire up the old Marshall's or Fender's and if the '68 TR is down for repairs (for example) I carry on with the Kemper. No studio time lost and customer finishes their session. Plus if it gets destroyed or stolen from car as long as my profiles are backed up it is easily (not cheaply - unless insurance covers it) replaced. Hard to find a negative reason not to go Kemper. Die hard tube amp guy here and the old iron most likely will never leave. But if I profile all my stuff then I don't even have to move heads around. Unless I really want the real deal. I dunno man this thing really does outshine (for flexibility alone) everything I have seen in the amp world in the past 30 years.

Question - Can you profile amp sounds off of another source, like cd or such? Say the opening riff of you shook me all night long or something?

 

[Heritage Softail]

People would rather spend 3500 for an amp than 5 for a bundle of profiles that are only 92.5 % as good.

You might...... no way in hell I'd spend $3500 on a tube head again. Been there done that several times and wont make that mistake again. I would argue that those high end heads don't give you 100% satisfaction either after watching a shit ton of them being whored around these forums.

That was irony. Just like the comment on song downloading wont catch on. But some have those high dollar heads. Diezel's ain't cheap. That is the one amp I have not heard many profiles of. If they can pull off a great bunch of Diezel profiles.... It will put to bed the question of which Diezel to buy. No more VH4 vs. Herbert threads. Just buy a Kemper and $10 in profiles, and be 95% of the way there.

I suspect the economy will help Kemper too. Aside of sounding good, easy to repeat good settings live, easy to set up, it is way cheap compared to the 3500 head and all the associated gear to get it to sound a little better than the $5 Kemper profile.

 

[steve_k]

The Axe FX and the Kemper are both game changers in every way. The Axe 3 will model tube smell and the Kemper 2 will be made of lead, just to make you feel at home lugging a rig around....

That said, the Axe can't touch my IIC+. Close, but no boner yet. Will see what the Kemper can do. There's a few amps that I won't let go of. Anything that can be bought off a shelf has already been sold. A few of my Marshall mods and the IIC+ won't be going anywhere. And, they don't have to. Everybody gets too caught up in being on one side of the fence or the other.

 

[rupe]

Everybody gets too caught up in being on one side of the fence or the other.

There it is

 

[thiswaythatway]

Can you profile farts with the Kemper? Talk about shitty tone!

 

[VC4Ever]

Can someone please do this. If it sounds good I'm in.

 

[stratotone]

Question - Can you profile amp sounds off of another source, like cd or such? Say the opening riff of you shook me all night long or something?

Here's a clip I did with my Kemper - all the guitars are me. You decide.


https://soundcloud.com/okstrat/kemper-crazy-train

 

[VESmedic]

The only product I've ever bought that COMPLETELY 100 PERCENT lives up to the hype... I can't say enough about it... It is fucking incredible.. I've said it before, i feel bad for those who don't own one ... The proof is in the pudding... These huge megaproducers aren't using the axe or talkig about the axe like they do the kemper.... I mean it is what it is, you can't deny that, that is a fact, not an opinion.if nothing you have heard, read, or seen about it will change your mind, then nothing will, and thats fine...at this point, frankly, in it's 1 year infancy, it has already been established as a game changer, end of story, call it what you want

Well, I think we have found our Scott Peterson of Kemper.

Annnndddd you must be a Butthurt axe owner


Call it hype, just like the axe whatever, again, the kemper doesn't need defending. And on that note, neither does the axe really, they both sound great. I've never been one to give into hype, but to me ( and apparently many others, alot of which didn't like the axe as much), it is the real deal. I sold my stereo UL/Herbert rig, and have never been happier with my tone live, or in the studio, not even close.

 

[ejecta]

The only product I've ever bought that COMPLETELY 100 PERCENT lives up to the hype... I can't say enough about it... It is fucking incredible.. I've said it before, i feel bad for those who don't own one ... The proof is in the pudding... These huge megaproducers aren't using the axe or talkig about the axe like they do the kemper.... I mean it is what it is, you can't deny that, that is a fact, not an opinion.if nothing you have heard, read, or seen about it will change your mind, then nothing will, and thats fine...at this point, frankly, in it's 1 year infancy, it has already been established as a game changer, end of story, call it what you want

Well, I think we have found our Scott Peterson of Kemper.

Annnndddd you must be a Butthurt axe owner


Call it hype, just like the axe whatever, again, the kemper doesn't need defending. And on that note, neither does the axe really, they both sound great. I've never been one to give into hype, but to me ( and apparently many others, alot of which didn't like the axe as much), it is the real deal. I sold my stereo UL/Herbert rig, and have never been happier with my tone live, or in the studio, not even close.

Oh he's butthurt alright but he doesn't have an AxeFX.

 

[Heritage Softail]

The RR Sounds great!

To profile an amp, you plug it up and the Kemper sends signals thru it and listens to the output to create the profile from what I understand. Is that correct?

 

[stratotone]

The RR Sounds great!

To profile an amp, you plug it up and the Kemper sends signals thru it and listens to the output to create the profile from what I understand. Is that correct?

Yeah, basically you plug into the kemper and then plug the kemper into the amp. you also need a microphone capturing the amp sound hooked into the kemper too.

Then you can compare after profiling the kemper's copy and the 'real thing' - the miked signal.

I did the RR track by taking a Ozone EQ match and running it inline with a profile of one of my vintage marshalls cranked. It 'baked' the EQ into the profile.

To simplify the process, whatever tone you can capture with a microphone or even a blend of microphones (f you use a board to sum the signals and mix them before you take them to the kemper) , you can duplicate with the Kemper and save it. One of these days I'm going to split my guitar signal into two or more amps, mic each amp and then make one humongous profile

 

[Ventura]

Has anybody kemper'ed a Kemper? Will it be like googling Google?



all joking aside, the idea of being able to profile my amps and other friend's amp is really appealing to me right now. I just need to play one to see how it feels/responds. I've never been able to gel with digital stuff for live use except for the GSP1101.

No, but I am going to do a Kemper profile of an Axe FX Silver Jubilee model....

Digital inbreeding?

"dat tone sure haz a purdy tooth, boy-ah"

"gonna make dat silver jubelly squeeeeeeeel like a piggy boy-ah"

 

[Ventura]

Question - Can you profile amp sounds off of another source, like cd or such? Say the opening riff of you shook me all night long or something?

Here's a clip I did with my Kemper - all the guitars are me. You decide.


https://soundcloud.com/okstrat/kemper-crazy-train

FKN ACE!!!!