Price Check: Mesa MK IIC+ Coli KG

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JackBootedThug said:
you could get both of those for less than that hacked up 2c+(I jest-I jest!!)...what can a 2c+ do that a IIb coli and a III blue stripe coli could not do? imo....
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The III coli isn't in the same league as the II colis. Killer amps, but side by side they can't keep up.

Between the IIB and IIC+ colis the C+ (with any power section) is clearly the better lead amp. The C+ and the SLO do things with lead tone that are really hard to match anywhere. The IIB coli however has a rhythm volume & sound that will shatter other amps into little pieces and bury them in a shallow grave. The C+ is polite & soft in comparison. That being said, which TONE you prefer is personal preference since everyone has a different sound in their head.
 
Racerxrated said:
Amps are worth whatever someone is willing to pay, in the end anyway.
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This times 1000x. And the same goes with guitars. I refuse to be on the end of getting taken to the cleaners. Hell even cars, you want what you want and want it now… go pay a crazy premium.

There are still deals to be had out there. Patience is definitely rewarded. Just got a IIc+ srg original factory I’m moving to a head for 2k. Getting the ++ treatment at Mesa too currently. It’s not a coli I get that. But if I want it bigger I’ll just slave it. Every live setting I’d ever use it in would get micd up anyway.
 
Bram576 said:
This times 1000x. And the same goes with guitars. I refuse to be on the end of getting taken to the cleaners. Hell even cars, you want what you want and want it now… go pay a crazy premium.

There are still deals to be had out there. Patience is definitely rewarded. Just got a IIc+ srg original factory I’m moving to a head for 2k. Getting the ++ treatment at Mesa too currently. It’s not a coli I get that. But if I want it bigger I’ll just slave it. Every live setting I’d ever use it in would get micd up anyway.
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Awesome score man. My SG++ is the tightest, most aggressive C+ I’ve played. It’s a vicious little sumbitch.
 
Beyond Black said:
Awesome score man. My SG++ is the tightest, most aggressive C+ I’ve played. It’s a vicious little sumbitch.
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Yep, my fav C+ tone was my first, the SRG. And, as hard as it is to believe as a 2C it was even better….most raw, open and angry amp I ever had. Hate to say I regret + ing it, I had to since it was my first C+ experience but it lost that jagged aggressive nature it had.
 
Racerxrated said:
Yep, my fav C+ tone was my first, the SRG. And, as hard as it is to believe as a 2C it was even better….most raw, open and angry amp I ever had. Hate to say I regret + ing it, I had to since it was my first C+ experience but it lost that jagged aggressive nature it had.
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Now, imagine that C sound & feel with 180W and no negative feedback. :)
 
Racerxrated said:
Are you saying your 2B is similar? Hmm road trip west in the future…??
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Mike said these really late IIBs like I have are more IIC than IIB. I just wish you would have given yours a chance before you sent it off to be C+ modded.
 
Racerxrated said:
Yep, my fav C+ tone was my first, the SRG. And, as hard as it is to believe as a 2C it was even better….most raw, open and angry amp I ever had. Hate to say I regret + ing it, I had to since it was my first C+ experience but it lost that jagged aggressive nature it had.
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Not hard to believe, just unexplored territory for most trying a IIC that hasn’t been +‘d and maybe they don’t wanna believe lol. It is hard for me to believe though if for just pure openness it could rival a Wizard, Hiwatt or your 72, but who knows
 
braintheory said:
Not hard to believe, just unexplored territory for most trying a IIC that hasn’t been +‘d and maybe they don’t wanna believe lol. It is hard for me to believe though if for just pure openness it could rival a Wizard, Hiwatt or your 72, but who
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I had a IIC H - no ‘verb / EQ - it was a direct and vicious amp that I couldn’t bring myself to +’ing, and had amazing cleans as well. Sure, the loop sucked, but it was a visceral beast, I wound-up selling it in a move to single-channel down-sizing frenzy, and regret it to this day. It’s since been +’d and EQ’d, so it’s no longer the “simple” amp it once was.
 
IIBornotIIB said:
I had a IIC H - no ‘verb / EQ - it was a direct and vicious amp that I couldn’t bring myself to +’ing, and had amazing cleans as well. Sure, the loop sucked, but it was a visceral beast, I wound-up selling it in a move to single-channel down-sizing frenzy, and regret it to this day. It’s since been +’d and EQ’d, so it’s no longer the “simple” amp it once was.
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Sounds up my alley. Almost makes me wanna send my c+ to Mike B to get un-+‘d lol. I rarely use fx loops anyway
 
braintheory said:
Not hard to believe, just unexplored territory for most trying a IIC that hasn’t been +‘d and maybe they don’t wanna believe lol. It is hard for me to believe though if for just pure openness it could rival a Wizard, Hiwatt or your 72, but who knows
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My very first C was a HRG C. I had it +, then later had it ++. While the lead tone was definitely better as a +, TBH, the rhythm & cleans are mind blowing as a C & I also always regretted modding that one. But like with Racer, it was my first C+ experience and I had to do it at the time. In hindsight, I should have left it alone.
 
braintheory said:
Not hard to believe, just unexplored territory for most trying a IIC that hasn’t been +‘d and maybe they don’t wanna believe lol. It is hard for me to believe though if for just pure openness it could rival a Wizard, Hiwatt or your 72, but who knows
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I don’t think any mark I’ve owned or played is especially open sounding. Quite the opposite really.

I’d like to try a IIB for 30 minutes or so. An original nonplussed C would be cool as well. Probably about 5 of those left ant this point lol. Only mark I’ll never buy again is a Mark III
 
GJgo said:
My very first C was a HRG C. I had it +, then later had it ++. While the lead tone was definitely better as a +, TBH, the rhythm & cleans are mind blowing as a C & I also always regretted modding that one. But like with Racer, it was my first C+ experience and I had to do it at the time. In hindsight, I should have left it alone.
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I can see that. The lead tone has to me always one of the places where the c+ really shines over other amps. You’re the 3rd guy I’ve heard now regretting getting it +’d lol. Maybe some guys should send there’s in to Mike B to get unplussed
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
I don’t think any mark I’ve owned or played is especially open sounding. Quite the opposite really.

I’d like to try a IIB for 30 minutes or so. An original nonplussed C would be cool as well. Probably about 5 of those left ant this point lol. Only mark I’ll never buy again is a Mark III
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I agree. I wouldn’t really consider any marks or Recto’s to be open sounding amps at all and the only marks I haven’t tried has been a mark IIC and 60w IIC+ and the only recto I’ve not tried is a Rev E. That being said, my iic+ and Rev C would both be in my top 3 even though I generally like a more open sound
 
GJgo said:
Mike said these really late IIBs like I have are more IIC than IIB. I just wish you would have given yours a chance before you sent it off to be C+ modded.
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Oh, I absolutely did...at the time, I didn't have a 2C to donate for the swap. I played it for a month before it went out. It sounded to me, a little more like a Mark III than any Mark II...it didn't have that vintage tone, less organic so to speak. I boosted it, played it straight in, it was ok but nothing special.
MUCH MUCH better after getting it back as a C+. Absolute no brainer there. Not even debatable.
It sounds like yours has some special sauce like my first SRG 2C.
 
braintheory said:
Not hard to believe, just unexplored territory for most trying a IIC that hasn’t been +‘d and maybe they don’t wanna believe lol. It is hard for me to believe though if for just pure openness it could rival a Wizard, Hiwatt or your 72, but who knows
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I will say though, that the 2C S combo I scored that I sent to Mike B for the swap, that 2C was very meh sounding. Not even close to the 2C SRG I had. But the non eq super fast pick response was very unique.
 
Racerxrated said:
I will say though, that the 2C S combo I scored that I sent to Mike B for the swap, that 2C was very meh sounding. Not even close to the 2C SRG I had. But the non eq super fast pick response was very unique.
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I’d bet still most 2C’s with GEQ’s probably sound great (however many even are left at this point lol). I also like the fast response of the non-EQ Mark’s I’ve played (not as much the sound), although at this point vs the Hermansson’s or Dino I tried everything else I’ve tried has a slow response comparatively LOL
 
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