ejecta
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Joe-TX":3csxcosa said:
Moshaholic
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Joe-TX":19no0w1z said:
What he said... We are all good this is squashed.
Tone Monster
Well-known member
Forget those guys Moshy. Even IF what they say about the neck is true (probably isn't), that BS about keeping the case is such a WTF? moment that they can fuck right off!
SOLD!!! Lol
Edit: I was reading the thread and posting while the kiss and make up stuff was posted. Glad it's over.
SOLD!!! Lol
Edit: I was reading the thread and posting while the kiss and make up stuff was posted. Glad it's over.
311boogieman
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Anonymous
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This is great news - wish all parties the best on this...
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TrueTone500
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Back in the late 70's/early 80's, I use to hang-out with Michael Tobias and Doug Montgomery learning as much as I could about guitar construction and repair. I'm certainly no expert, but I did pick up some knowledge pertaining to heat damaged instruments. Warped, twisted, and bowed necks are not at all uncommon here in the southeast, as the humidity here is fucking brutal! Not as bad on sealed necks, but these unfinished necks don't have a chance. Subject a neck (especially an unfinished neck) to 90+ degrees @ 90%+ humidity, and within minutes the wood will begin to react. I don't know where this guitar was shipped from, but I will speculate that it was damaged during the shipping process.
If you're intent on playing unfinished necks, you can create a mild humidity barrier using boiled linseed oil. Nothing is totally impermeable, but it will at least give you some protection, and it looks fantastic! Try using boiled linseed oil on a piece of comparable wood, or maybe a cheap guitar and see what you think? Give it several coats, and then knock it down with some ultra fine steel wool.
Note: Be sure to read all warnings associated with proper use and disposal... Used rags containing boiled linseed oil can spontaneously ignite!
If you're intent on playing unfinished necks, you can create a mild humidity barrier using boiled linseed oil. Nothing is totally impermeable, but it will at least give you some protection, and it looks fantastic! Try using boiled linseed oil on a piece of comparable wood, or maybe a cheap guitar and see what you think? Give it several coats, and then knock it down with some ultra fine steel wool.
Note: Be sure to read all warnings associated with proper use and disposal... Used rags containing boiled linseed oil can spontaneously ignite!
maddnotez
Banned
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Another classic to add to the RT archives.
Now that all parties have spoken. No one will ever know the truth unless there was someone lying.
I agree with some posts that it almost seems as if the buyer is trying to make some kind of gain weather it be a neck swap or a free case or something but it smells really bad for the buyer IMO.
Also just FYI that CNC guitar guy may not necessarily be the same ebay seller.
Remember the Billy Blades thread when Mark and Eddie Van Halen chimed in?
Shit like this really bothers me because legit sellers should be able to sell to anyone even if they have a low post count. Things like this make legit users hesitant to deal with anyone new and that is bullshit and bad for the community. I think a seller should never have to worry about getting screwed.
Be honest and do not fuck anyone over. It will come back to you in the end if you don't get your ass kicked in the process.
I am NOT accusing anyone because obviously I am not the buyer or the "tech" and clearly do not know what happened. But after reading the thread and the exchanges I would convict the buyer of theft, weather I am right or wrong I am sorry.
IMO IF there are pictures produced ok but is it even possible to capture a bow in a neck and a serial # in the same picture? If not then 1000 pics are useless.
As sad as it is for me to say because I will never do this: TGP has it right, you have to pay to be a member to sell shit.
If I ran a forum I would take it a step further and in order to access the classified section you would need to provide copies of your photo ID with an address that matched your IP and that would be posted to your profile.
Now that all parties have spoken. No one will ever know the truth unless there was someone lying.
I agree with some posts that it almost seems as if the buyer is trying to make some kind of gain weather it be a neck swap or a free case or something but it smells really bad for the buyer IMO.
Also just FYI that CNC guitar guy may not necessarily be the same ebay seller.
Remember the Billy Blades thread when Mark and Eddie Van Halen chimed in?
Shit like this really bothers me because legit sellers should be able to sell to anyone even if they have a low post count. Things like this make legit users hesitant to deal with anyone new and that is bullshit and bad for the community. I think a seller should never have to worry about getting screwed.
Be honest and do not fuck anyone over. It will come back to you in the end if you don't get your ass kicked in the process.
I am NOT accusing anyone because obviously I am not the buyer or the "tech" and clearly do not know what happened. But after reading the thread and the exchanges I would convict the buyer of theft, weather I am right or wrong I am sorry.
IMO IF there are pictures produced ok but is it even possible to capture a bow in a neck and a serial # in the same picture? If not then 1000 pics are useless.
As sad as it is for me to say because I will never do this: TGP has it right, you have to pay to be a member to sell shit.
If I ran a forum I would take it a step further and in order to access the classified section you would need to provide copies of your photo ID with an address that matched your IP and that would be posted to your profile.
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prodrigu
Member
I am Pedro, the original owner that Gyles mentioned.
He already stated the facts about our communication, I just wanted to add a few things:
1 - I can tell Gyle is a honest person. The way he handled our first transaction and the way he is handling this one now I think he has been very reasonable. He has a good reputation in this forum and has explained all the details of what has happened so far. Beyond this forum, NO ONE would build a professional reputation with an attitude of screwing people over a couple of hundred dollars. If you see his real business you would understand why he did not want spend a lot of time involved in this mess in the beginning, however now that I also know the details in the other side I understand why he did it.
2 - When I shipped the guitar it had NO neck issues. I remember inspecting the guitar before shipment and the neck was straight. I had this guitars for a few years, don't remember exactly when I bought it but as I mentioned (and both buyers spoke about its condition) it was barely played. I never took it to my local tech.
3 - I am not an active forum, I have only my eBay and TGP feedback history to speak about my integrity in terms of gear selling (phmrodrigues on Ebay) and (prodrigu on TGP) feel free to check it. I normally offer to take back stuff I sell even if there are no issues, as long as the buyer returns the item in the original condition and pays for return shipping but this case seems too fishy to me as well. Why not returning the case (which I had I bough it separately by the way) ? Was the guitar restrung before noticing any obvious problems in the neck ? (when I take a guitar to have anything related to string action - neck adjustment, string gauge change, etc. - the very first thing the guy does even before giving me a quote is check for neck straightness)
I hope this helps a bit and the facts already been pointed out in this thread make people think twice before start misjudging a forum member which is a great guy and I would do business again any time.
He already stated the facts about our communication, I just wanted to add a few things:
1 - I can tell Gyle is a honest person. The way he handled our first transaction and the way he is handling this one now I think he has been very reasonable. He has a good reputation in this forum and has explained all the details of what has happened so far. Beyond this forum, NO ONE would build a professional reputation with an attitude of screwing people over a couple of hundred dollars. If you see his real business you would understand why he did not want spend a lot of time involved in this mess in the beginning, however now that I also know the details in the other side I understand why he did it.
2 - When I shipped the guitar it had NO neck issues. I remember inspecting the guitar before shipment and the neck was straight. I had this guitars for a few years, don't remember exactly when I bought it but as I mentioned (and both buyers spoke about its condition) it was barely played. I never took it to my local tech.
3 - I am not an active forum, I have only my eBay and TGP feedback history to speak about my integrity in terms of gear selling (phmrodrigues on Ebay) and (prodrigu on TGP) feel free to check it. I normally offer to take back stuff I sell even if there are no issues, as long as the buyer returns the item in the original condition and pays for return shipping but this case seems too fishy to me as well. Why not returning the case (which I had I bough it separately by the way) ? Was the guitar restrung before noticing any obvious problems in the neck ? (when I take a guitar to have anything related to string action - neck adjustment, string gauge change, etc. - the very first thing the guy does even before giving me a quote is check for neck straightness)
I hope this helps a bit and the facts already been pointed out in this thread make people think twice before start misjudging a forum member which is a great guy and I would do business again any time.
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prodrigu
Member
EDIT: Sorry I posted three times by accident and don't know how to delete !
I am Pedro, the original owner that Gyles mentioned.
He already stated the facts about our communication, I just wanted to add a few things:
1 - I can tell Gyle is a honest person. The way he handled our first transaction and the way he is handling this one now I think he has been very reasonable. He has a good reputation in this forum and has explained all the details of what has happened so far. Beyond this forum, NO ONE would build a professional reputation with an attitude of screwing people over a couple of hundred dollars. If you see his real business you would understand why he did not want spend a lot of time involved in this mess in the beginning, however now that I also know the details in the other side I understand why he did it.
2 - When I shipped the guitar it had NO neck issues. I remember inspecting the guitar before shipment and the neck was straight. I had this guitars for a few years, don't remember exactly when I bought it but as I mentioned (and both buyers spoke about its condition) it was barely played. I never took it to my local tech.
3 - I am not an active forum, I have only my eBay and TGP feedback history to speak about my integrity in terms of gear selling (phmrodrigues on Ebay) and (prodrigu on TGP) feel free to check it. I normally offer to take back stuff I sell even if there are no issues, as long as the buyer returns the item in the original condition and pays for return shipping but this case seems too fishy to me as well. Why not returning the case (which I had I bough it separately by the way) ? Was the guitar restrung before noticing any obvious problems in the neck ? (when I take a guitar to have anything related to string action - neck adjustment, string gauge change, etc. - the very first thing the guy does even before giving me a quote is check for neck straightness)
I hope this helps a bit and the facts already been pointed out in this thread make people think twice before start misjudging a forum member which is a great guy and I would do business again any time.
I am Pedro, the original owner that Gyles mentioned.
He already stated the facts about our communication, I just wanted to add a few things:
1 - I can tell Gyle is a honest person. The way he handled our first transaction and the way he is handling this one now I think he has been very reasonable. He has a good reputation in this forum and has explained all the details of what has happened so far. Beyond this forum, NO ONE would build a professional reputation with an attitude of screwing people over a couple of hundred dollars. If you see his real business you would understand why he did not want spend a lot of time involved in this mess in the beginning, however now that I also know the details in the other side I understand why he did it.
2 - When I shipped the guitar it had NO neck issues. I remember inspecting the guitar before shipment and the neck was straight. I had this guitars for a few years, don't remember exactly when I bought it but as I mentioned (and both buyers spoke about its condition) it was barely played. I never took it to my local tech.
3 - I am not an active forum, I have only my eBay and TGP feedback history to speak about my integrity in terms of gear selling (phmrodrigues on Ebay) and (prodrigu on TGP) feel free to check it. I normally offer to take back stuff I sell even if there are no issues, as long as the buyer returns the item in the original condition and pays for return shipping but this case seems too fishy to me as well. Why not returning the case (which I had I bough it separately by the way) ? Was the guitar restrung before noticing any obvious problems in the neck ? (when I take a guitar to have anything related to string action - neck adjustment, string gauge change, etc. - the very first thing the guy does even before giving me a quote is check for neck straightness)
I hope this helps a bit and the facts already been pointed out in this thread make people think twice before start misjudging a forum member which is a great guy and I would do business again any time.
ibenhad
Well-known member
Mosh/Giles all I am going to say is I hope you learned a lesson. Sometimes when we are in a hurry to recoup cash to by something else we deal with people we normally wouldn't deal with. Who the fuck cares more about a neck pocket then the rest of the guitar? Dude is also obviously super anal or something. Red flag red flag red flag. Hope this works out for you and in the future if something/someone doesn't seem right it/they usually are not. Good luck man hope this hump works out. I would deal with you in the future. Solid guy.
JerEvil
Well-known member
Well, not to stir the pot TOO much, but I would love to see pics of the neck on the guitar now, recreated shot of the neck pocket pics Giles sent and a side by side, close shot of the neck on the guitar Giles sent as well as the buyers Charvel so they can be compared to the pics Giles posted. This way we can see if the grain on the neck matches the pics Giles posted in the FS threads. I am thinking a purchase and neck swap happened as mentioned in an earlier post. If the "tech" can snap a neck pocket shot at the same angle as Giles that might help since the buyer is out of the picture for another few days.
Moshaholic
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prodrigu":3j9vosv5 said:
Thanks Pedro, your a stand up guy too.
I'm honestly still reeling from being blindsided by this and all the energy spent over the last 3 days because of this, just unbelievable.
Chumbucket's Charvel (green So-Cal) was shipped last week around the same same day as this guys I think.
I have been talking to him almost everyday since via PM and he indicated to me that he is traveling or something and asked me to check the "Hold at location"on the waybill box and it is being held at a Kinkos near his house.
FWIW, after shipping this one to this guy in TX in a the Charvel hardcase I didn't want to send the green one to Chumbucket in a gigbag (he bought the his after this guy and this guy snagged the charvel hardcase option first).
So I just gave him a free Ibanez SKB hardcase I had in my closet and packed the guitar to better protect the guitar in shipping.
My wife saw me throwing the Charvel gig bag in the garage (she knows I hate those stupid Charvel gig bags lol) and asked are your giving away that Ibanez hardcase away free to this guy
I said ya, I try to care about buyers + he's from "the forum" and I want this guy to get his guitar in one piece and save us both any headaches.
It's worth giving him the case as an extra fro free just to keep this bad ass Charvel safe in transit to him.
Alright!!!
Everybody back to Rig-talk!!!
More Friedman clips from Mr. "Fiending Hippie"...!!!
Up the Irons !!!
Black Sabbath
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Come on man!glip22":29j9t416 said:
Everybody knows that JP's tech is a paraplegic, bald, has scoliosis, is blind in his left eye, has chronic constipation bowel syndrome disease, missing 6 teeth and his two index fingers, tends to fart incessantly, smokes 5 packs of cigarettes a day, has sex with his 82 year old mother, has 12 DUIs in less than 3 years, and is 300 pounds over weight.
Hello!
Black Sabbath
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Why not just hit up Pelosi and be done with the whole conundrum.Metlupass2":3h4a49gn said:
Yeah baby, get-ur-done.
P.S. Nice boobs by the way.
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TrueTone500
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Any updates? Is the neck being repaired, replaced, used as kindling? I'd be interested in buying the neck.
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paulyc
Well-known member
^ If you buy the neck I'll buy the body !
se7en
Active member
I'll take the case, but I'm going to send the guitar back in something else. Where does this a-hole get off saying something like that? What a swine! 
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xzyryabx
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Black Sabbath":2fageu2u said:
god damn, how can one person be so relentlessly annoying....actually, I guess I have to give you props on the consistency
sytharnia1560
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xzyryabx":1my0dafr said:
you need to just ignore him, people like this feed off people biting