R Blackmore. I cant get my head around this.

[chumbucket]

Checkout Ritchie's playing during this gig with MkIII lineup of Deep Purple -

 

[JohnSykes]

When he was "on", he was the greatest.

 

[thiswaythatway]

So let me get this straight. Now Blackmore is a talentless incoherent hack?
The world is truly upside down.

Well he's no Wes Borland.

 

[Riggins1966]

To Rip on Blackmore is like Rippin'
on Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Tony Iommi
Eric Clapton. These guy's may not be
as Technically Proficient as Guthrie Govan,
Vai or Gilbert but they are the "ORIGINAL"
Guitar God's!!! If not for Blackmore, we wouldn't
have the likes of Yngwie or Doug Aldrich.
Ritchie's style is hard to cop, he just has
too much of his own thing going on....
My Hat is Off to the Original "GOD'S OF GUITAR"

So so true. Too bad the youngsters dont see it this way. To have the balls to say you dont like the "colors" or the "phrasing" in a Blackmore solo is laughable.

I'm almost 50 douchebag. so I don't like RB. Is that some kinda crime? I love how people get butt-hurt when you don't like the same guitar heroes they do. I never said he sucked, or that he was a no talent hack, but by your response you'd swear I did.

Someday you will learn that others have different tastes/likes than you. And from then on your life will become much easier.

 

[gtrwun]

To Rip on Blackmore is like Rippin'
on Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Tony Iommi
Eric Clapton. These guy's may not be
as Technically Proficient as Guthrie Govan,
Vai or Gilbert but they are the "ORIGINAL"
Guitar God's!!! If not for Blackmore, we wouldn't
have the likes of Yngwie or Doug Aldrich.
Ritchie's style is hard to cop, he just has
too much of his own thing going on....
My Hat is Off to the Original "GOD'S OF GUITAR"

So so true. Too bad the youngsters dont see it this way. To have the balls to say you dont like the "colors" or the "phrasing" in a Blackmore solo is laughable.

I'm almost 50 douchebag. so I don't like RB. Is that some kinda crime? I love how people get butt-hurt when you don't like the same guitar heroes they do. I never said he sucked, or that he was a no talent hack, but by your response you'd swear I did.

Someday you will learn that others have different tastes/likes than you. And from then on your life will become much easier.

I have no problem with your opinion. I simply stated mine and i didnt resort to name calling as you felt nessesary? Thanks for your life lesson/changing response. I hope we can hear some of your superior guitar playin sometime ?

 

[RG955TT]

You guys need the calm the fuck down.

Whatever playing just happened in that video was not tasteful to some people (myself included)

Blackmore has done some great guitar stuff for sure, but this solo just sounds like shit.

Maybe if we heard the man himself, loud in a concert setting, whatever.

He has played some good stuff, but he is NO fucking jimmy page, or Hendrix. So please stop comparing him to the greatest guitarists that came from the 60's.

He's pretty good, but he's not one of the top level guys.

2nd tier at best. He might be good enough to change Jimmy Pages strings, and tune up his mandocello.

This is all your opinion...which in MY OPINION is completely wrong and completely lacks any real credibility IMO..RB was just as influential on some as the people you cite above and was a true and early guitar hero to a lot of people. If you don't dig him fine but I see an almost guaranteed trend on here lately that if you don't like it or whatever than it's shit. Not the case, I'm sure to a lot of you Allen Holdsworth sucks too (who?) but he's another highly influential player too on tons of guys including VH. Smoke on the Water was one of the top played songs of all time...I get that you may not like this one song or solo but this guys got a huge body of work that stands with some of the greatest...whether you like it or not.

 

[70strathead]

You guys need the calm the fuck down.

Whatever playing just happened in that video was not tasteful to some people (myself included)

Blackmore has done some great guitar stuff for sure, but this solo just sounds like shit.

Maybe if we heard the man himself, loud in a concert setting, whatever.

He has played some good stuff, but he is NO fucking jimmy page, or Hendrix. So please stop comparing him to the greatest guitarists that came from the 60's.

He's pretty good, but he's not one of the top level guys.

2nd tier at best. He might be good enough to change Jimmy Pages strings, and tune up his mandocello.

Jimmy Page once came up to Ritchie and said...what are those lines your playing ? ..Ritchie responded with ...Don't you know? Ritchie is from the 60's and Nobody's comparing anybody either, thats just dumb. Page is brilliant at what he wrote and did. Who is comparing anyone to Hendrix or 60's cats?? Maybe you should listen to Ritchie's live guitar playing improv jamming with Jon Lord from 69-72 period and than think about the last naive statement you wrote. You havent a clue. Not a top level guy? According to you. Have fun growing up

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Congratulations, you've just publicly admitted your lack of musical knowledge and unawareness of RB's body of work since the late 60's. Unlike Jeff Beck, Clapton..who i love, Ritchie was indeed VERY knowledgable in musical theory and was the number 1 session cat in England at the ripe age of 16..playing everything from bebop, rockabilly, country, classical, blues.

He may be brilliant and he may have been totally badass with Purple, but the Rainbow stuff just goes all over the place. I have never questioned his technique or skill but some of the later stuff and live stuff is all over the place. I don't think it is genius, I think it is a fucking mess. Incoherent fast runs, not always in key, tons of whammy vibrato and choppy. He's not that much of a genius guys, he 's like a drunk Mozart or Bach... you know what they have done and you compare it to what is in front of you. Big difference.

Anyway the whole point of the thread is to say, don't worry about it.. get the general shape of the solo and lean in heavy on the whammy bar. Maybe a few shots of whisky to slop you up a bit and a line of cocaine to keep you choppy and in a rush to cram notes into solos. Bam! That's RB later era playing.

 

[cool09]

It's a minor modal scale. He used aeolian a lot along with blues scale. Page used aeolian a lot, as well. (ie. "Since I've been loving you".) The theory is not nearly as complicated as what some guitarists get into (Satriani, Jeff Loomis, Vai, etc.). But Blackmore was a great guitarist.
There are an infinite number of scales. Some originate from different cultures around the World. In India, 1/4 notes are used so that comes out to many more notes than 12 notes used in pop and rock music.
Loomis demonstrates a 5-note diminished scale in his guitar DVD.
Checkout youtube - there's a video where a guy plays like 50 or 100 scales in 5 minutes: Hungarian Minor and Major scales and all sorts of stuff.
Holdsworth figured out his own scales starting at 5 notes, so on.

 

[Greazygeo]

Congratulations, you've just publicly admitted your lack of musical knowledge and unawareness of RB's body of work since the late 60's. Unlike Jeff Beck, Clapton..who i love, Ritchie was indeed VERY knowledgable in musical theory and was the number 1 session cat in England at the ripe age of 16..playing everything from bebop, rockabilly, country, classical, blues.

He may be brilliant and he may have been totally badass with Purple, but the Rainbow stuff just goes all over the place. I have never questioned his technique or skill but some of the later stuff and live stuff is all over the place. I don't think it is genius, I think it is a fucking mess. Incoherent fast runs, not always in key, tons of whammy vibrato and choppy. He's not that much of a genius guys, he 's like a drunk Mozart or Bach... you know what they have done and you compare it to what is in front of you. Big difference.

Anyway the whole point of the thread is to say, don't worry about it.. get the general shape of the solo and lean in heavy on the whammy bar. Maybe a few shots of whisky to slop you up a bit and a line of cocaine to keep you choppy and in a rush to cram notes into solos. Bam! That's RB later era playing.

his live playing was always all over the place. The nights he feels like playing, he's awesome. The nights he doesn't...well those are the nites the guitar is getting thrown around, amps getting blown up, cameras getting smashed etc....there is some great stuff in Rainbow especially the Dio era stuff.

The Rainbow DVD from 1977 that came out a few years ago is great, love watching it.

 

[70strathead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywXA1SyImew

 

[70strathead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV3Dorhs2NE

 

[Riggins1966]

To Rip on Blackmore is like Rippin'
on Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Tony Iommi
Eric Clapton. These guy's may not be
as Technically Proficient as Guthrie Govan,
Vai or Gilbert but they are the "ORIGINAL"
Guitar God's!!! If not for Blackmore, we wouldn't
have the likes of Yngwie or Doug Aldrich.
Ritchie's style is hard to cop, he just has
too much of his own thing going on....
My Hat is Off to the Original "GOD'S OF GUITAR"

So so true. Too bad the youngsters dont see it this way. To have the balls to say you dont like the "colors" or the "phrasing" in a Blackmore solo is laughable.

I'm almost 50 douchebag. so I don't like RB. Is that some kinda crime? I love how people get butt-hurt when you don't like the same guitar heroes they do. I never said he sucked, or that he was a no talent hack, but by your response you'd swear I did.

Someday you will learn that others have different tastes/likes than you. And from then on your life will become much easier.

I have no problem with your opinion. I simply stated mine and i didnt resort to name calling as you felt nessesary? Thanks for your life lesson/changing response. I hope we can hear some of your superior guitar playin sometime ?

I absolutely want to apologize for the name-calling. I should know better than read and post before morning coffee, I always take shit the wrong way. so, again, very sorry about that. That's just really not me.

as for me, I am a hack. I play the same pentatonic based licks over and over again. But, it's what I enjoy and the people watching don't know any better, so my lazy ass has no motivation to improve...

 

[gtrwun]

I absolutely want to apologize for the name-calling. I should know better than read and post before morning coffee, I always take shit the wrong way. so, again, very sorry about that. That's just really not me.

as for me, I am a hack. I play the same pentatonic based licks over and over again. But, it's what I enjoy and the people watching don't know any better, so my lazy ass has no motivation to improve...

Hey...it's all good. Ive been there and done that myself more than once on here. I certainly didnt mean to offend with my comments.

 

[jkdsteve]

Blackmore is a genius, maybe virtuoso.....love almost all his work.

 

[nigelpkay]

It's definitely the phrasing, it's like he's always all over the place, but always ends up in the right place in the end.
I'm not really a big fan of the 70's Deep Purple stuff, I'm more into the Rainbow era and Perfect Strangers album. (hey I'm an 80's guy afterall...)

The solos on Perfect Strangers are just... wow.... Knocking at your Back Door, Wasted Sunsets...

 

[thiswaythatway]

 

[War Admiral]

some hilarious views here...you can really see the people that can see and hear genius at work and the others that dont have a clue. Come on...a true off the cuff brilliant improviser....doesnt sit back and play the same shit night after night...takes chances...crash or burn approach. That first vid original solo is amazing...melodic ideas in that solo are insane. No one plays like that...no one. Richie is a real character but hey theres no bullshit there...a rock guitar legend if there ever was one. When I started out playing I didnt get him either because I wasnt there yet...years later his work still stands out

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

You guys crack me up... still going on with this , "hey it's ok, i didn't get him either" superiority complex over a guy who just screws around way too much live and goes way too far past what he cut in the studio. Some creative liberties are fine (ahem, Randy's live stuff with Ozzy, where he changed it up night after night but kept the important bits more or less the same) but to completely just go off and have peoplemake excuses for your "genius" because you just didn't feel like playing? Hey I guess I am not "developed" enough as a musician or I haven't hit my level 10 guitar wizardry level because to me it sounds like HE thinks it sounds great when most other people will think it sounds terrible. If you are letting Ritchie off the hook for sloppy playing, then isn't Lynch a total maestro out there? He takes liberties in and out of key all the time! When he does it however, he is in the wrong. That's right, Lynch just doesn't "get it", he's still trying to get to Ritchie's level.... so is Wylde for that matter. What Ritchie consistently has though.. is killer tone!

Deep Purple is where it's at. Highway Star, Child In Time, Lazy.. killer killer stuff and awesome phrasing with those signature licks. I liked the Rainbow song writing and rythm playing, but the leads always left me wondering whether or not he put any effort into it. I'm gonna be honest with you, I LOVE Yngwie playing Rainbow or Purple songs. He kills it every time.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Now Ritchie playing acoustic is ripping good. Makes him lay back a little more. Doogie was an awesome singer too, forgot how good he was.