Recommend Metal Tone Settings for This BE-100 Setup

[MistaGuitah]

Suhr SSH+ pickup> tube screamer> BE-100> Celestion Creamback 65

What amp settings would get me a good standard metal tone close enough for Pantera and Metallica covers?

 

[7 Stringer]

Suhr SSH+ pickup> tube screamer> BE-100> Celestion Creamback 65

What amp settings would get me a good standard metal tone close enough for Pantera and Metallica covers?

BE channel, all at noon. C45 on, voice on,fat off, gain at 2 or 3 if boosting. Go from there and adjust accordingly.

I prefer the grind of the BE channel vs HBE. Try both and decide for yourself. Gain lower on the HBE though.

I tend to not use a lot of gain so your tastes may vary in that department.

 

[Markedman]

A GEQ or PEQ in the loop, set to have a smily face. '-_-'

 

[napalmdeath]

Man, if you drop $3000+ on an amp and need help dialing it in, well.. Just.... Wow....

 

[japetus]

Man, if you drop $3000+ on an amp and need help dialing it in, well.. Just.... Wow....

You would be shocked man. I have played with amazing guitar players, virtuoso level players, who have no idea on how to EQ an amp or put together a rig. I also have played with guys with a $15000 rack who are engineer level detail about their rig, and can't play a lick.

 

[napalmdeath]

Man, if you drop $3000+ on an amp and need help dialing it in, well.. Just.... Wow....

You would be shocked man. I have played with amazing guitar players, virtuoso level players, who have no idea on how to EQ an amp or put together a rig. I also have played with guys with a $15000 rack who are engineer level detail about their rig, and can't play a lick.

Believe me, I'm not surprised. I see people on YouTube all the time doing demos with 32 amps in the background, and can't play for shit. They always start off with "excuse the sloppy playing".

I think in alot of cases it's a status symbol to own nice stuff, and very little to do with becoming an actual player.

 

[MistaGuitah]

Man, if you drop $3000+ on an amp and need help dialing it in, well.. Just.... Wow....

Wait, let me try to understand your logic here. Because someone asks for suggested settings for a certain musical genre, you somehow think that means they don't know how to use their own equipment? How do you figure that? The can be a number of reason to ask that question. One might want to know how their settings compare to other people's, or maybe someone has had success with similar gear and has a trick to share. Then you go on in your next post to infer that I have expensive gear but don't know how to play. Have you heard me play? What makes you think you are so great? Look here, it has been a couple of months since I posted something on this forum but it is hard to forget your persistent negativity. You remind me of an old girlfriend who seemed like she was on her period year-round. Think before you post and learn to have some common courtesy.

 

[napalmdeath]

Man, if you drop $3000+ on an amp and need help dialing it in, well.. Just.... Wow....

Wait, let me try to understand your logic here. Because someone asks for suggested settings for a certain musical genre, you somehow think that means they don't know how to use their own equipment? How do you figure that? The can be a number of reason to ask that question. One might want to know how their settings compare to other people's, or maybe someone has had success with similar gear and has a trick to share. Then you go on in your next post to infer that I have expensive gear but don't know how to play. Have you heard me play? What makes you think you are so great? Look here, it has been a couple of months since I posted something on this forum but it is hard to forget your persistent negativity. You remind me of an old girlfriend who seemed like she was on her period year-round. Think before you post and learn to have some common courtesy.

I didn't drop any names, or claim you couldn't play, did I? I spoke of people on YouTube. Go read it again, Savage Rifter.

But, hey, I'm not the one chasing Dimebag tones with a Strat and Friedman BE. I say if the shoe fits, wear it.

 

[MistaGuitah]

Man, if you drop $3000+ on an amp and need help dialing it in, well.. Just.... Wow....

Wait, let me try to understand your logic here. Because someone asks for suggested settings for a certain musical genre, you somehow think that means they don't know how to use their own equipment? How do you figure that? The can be a number of reason to ask that question. One might want to know how their settings compare to other people's, or maybe someone has had success with similar gear and has a trick to share. Then you go on in your next post to infer that I have expensive gear but don't know how to play. Have you heard me play? What makes you think you are so great? Look here, it has been a couple of months since I posted something on this forum but it is hard to forget your persistent negativity. You remind me of an old girlfriend who seemed like she was on her period year-round. Think before you post and learn to have some common courtesy.

I didn't drop any names, or claim you couldn't play, did I? I spoke of people on YouTube. Go read it again, Savage Rifter.

But, hey, I'm not the one chasing Dimebag tones with a Strat and Friedman BE. I say if the shoe fits, wear it.

Where did I say I was chasing Dimebag tones? Since you had such a hard time reading it before, here it is in bigger letters:

"What amp settings would get me a good standard metal tone close enough for Pantera and Metallica covers?"

Again, try to read more carefully this time.

 

[Metlupass2]

Suhr SSH+ pickup> tube screamer> BE-100> Celestion Creamback 65

What amp settings would get me a good standard metal tone close enough for Pantera and Metallica covers?

Me thinks you have the wrong type of amp for that kind of tone.

 

[Racerxrated]

Drop the mids to 0, treble to 0, raise Presence up as your high end. Bass to taste. That should be a good starting point...adjust from there. Metal.

 

[Fuego]

I played one at gc. It has great tones in it for sure but it's not a metal amp imo. It hissed like crazy when I once I got the gain up.

 

[harddriver]

Your going to have to tighten the amp up a bunch. The BE100 has alot of compression and is basss heavy by design. I would say try OD boost or high DB EQ with an EQ in the loop to add mids treble , remove bass. Dimes tone was all about mids not alot of compression. I believe he used Vintage 30 speakers, which are tight with lotsa mids. With that much boost up front you may need a noise gate.

As mentioned use the BE channel it has 3 gain stages it will be tighter and less compressed, turn your gain down then boost with the Mids boost EQ or OD pedal up front and then contour the tone with another EQ in the loop. You may need a noise gate as well. You should be plenty close to have fun with the tone.

The BE100 has more than enough gain to do Metallica Pantera, it's how you contour the sound.
Check out this Ola vid it may give you some ideas:

 

[Purpleibby]

Here's how I set up my be100 for heavier tones. Do NOT be afraid to crank the bass on these. It's very common to see a lot of guys have the bass cranked all the way or almost. I'm in that camp on my BE100. The BE100 has lots of gain, you can crank it all the way and it's just right depending on your pickup outputs. I find how much perceived gain it sounds like the BE100 actually has is dependent on how your eq settings are.

Try these settings:

Bass: Cranked
mids: where 3 would be on the dial
treble: a smidge above 6
Presence: a smidge above 6
Voice: on
C45: on

Gain cranked, hbe mode

On these settings you can also go treble 5 Presence 7 if you need a different type of high end, or anything inbetween.

 

[MistaGuitah]

Here's how I set up my be100 for heavier tones. Do NOT be afraid to crank the bass on these. It's very common to see a lot of guys have the bass cranked all the way or almost. I'm in that camp on my BE100. The BE100 has lots of gain, you can crank it all the way and it's just right depending on your pickup outputs. I find how much perceived gain it sounds like the BE100 actually has is dependent on how your eq settings are.

Try these settings:

Bass: Cranked
mids: where 3 would be on the dial
treble: a smidge above 6
Presence: a smidge above 6
Voice: on
C45: on

Gain cranked, hbe mode

On these settings you can also go treble 5 Presence 7 if you need a different type of high end, or anything inbetween.

Thanks. I'm glad you posted this because I was wondering about my bass settings. The bass seems to be happy at 3:00 and beyond at lower volumes but that seemed kind of counter-intuitive coming from a Bogner Shiva 20th which has an expansion control specifically for better low-volume low-end. My BE is really loud. It has a superior master volume, but the range before it gets ear-splitting is not too wide. I guess that is why anything metal makes me want to max the bass out most of the time.

I have some tube screamer variants and they seem to do very well tightening things up, but I do think what you said about the compression has been a factor. What is better to reduce the compression effect, using more gain on the tube screamer and less amp gain or the other way around?

 

[JimmyBlind]

I'd say an overdrive with a mid-boost is probably better than your average TS pedal for that kind of amp. A Koko boost or something.

I'm similarly confused by the question though, no disrespect. That is a serious amplifier to own and not know how it's voiced. You can probably afford to have a 5150 sat next to it.

 

[napalmdeath]

Savage Riffer.

 

[7 Stringer]

Less amp gain is always better for a tighter sound.

IMO

 

[Purpleibby]

Here's how I set up my be100 for heavier tones. Do NOT be afraid to crank the bass on these. It's very common to see a lot of guys have the bass cranked all the way or almost. I'm in that camp on my BE100. The BE100 has lots of gain, you can crank it all the way and it's just right depending on your pickup outputs. I find how much perceived gain it sounds like the BE100 actually has is dependent on how your eq settings are.

Try these settings:

Bass: Cranked
mids: where 3 would be on the dial
treble: a smidge above 6
Presence: a smidge above 6
Voice: on
C45: on

Gain cranked, hbe mode

On these settings you can also go treble 5 Presence 7 if you need a different type of high end, or anything inbetween.

Thanks. I'm glad you posted this because I was wondering about my bass settings. The bass seems to be happy at 3:00 and beyond at lower volumes but that seemed kind of counter-intuitive coming from a Bogner Shiva 20th which has an expansion control specifically for better low-volume low-end. My BE is really loud. It has a superior master volume, but the range before it gets ear-splitting is not too wide. I guess that is why anything metal makes me want to max the bass out most of the time.

I have some tube screamer variants and they seem to do very well tightening things up, but I do think what you said about the compression has been a factor. What is better to reduce the compression effect, using more gain on the tube screamer and less amp gain or the other way around?

First place I noticed the bass set that way was Steve Stevens' rig, then I noticed Billy Duffy set his BE100 that way too, Sambora as well....I tried it, sounds awesome and is not too much in my setup.

 

[GOHOINC]

Man, if you drop $3000+ on an amp and need help dialing it in, well.. Just.... Wow....

What's your deal man? Forget who you think it is, this dude was just asking for some tone settings and your reaction is to shit on his gear of choice and how much it costs? Every time someone posts about getting any piece of gear that costs more than a used peavey bandit some crackhead stole and put on craigslist you gots to talk shit. Jealous much?