Rig Talk collection to buy John Norum new gear. Please Help!

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After the recent thread about John Norum with the video of him walking through his gear, I was heartbroken. John is one of my favorite players and I just can't stand to see players of his caliber suffering. I won't discuss his rack of Les Paul's because some of you guys love those things. Personally, I feel like I'm strapped into a medieval torture device while playing one, but that is subjective.

But his amps and pedals. Oh for the love of humanity. The uninformed Mr. Norum is playing JCM800's so you might think, "well okay, he's on the right track". But no. He is playing the 2205 version of the JCM800. Those have diode clipping in them and as a result can only sound crappy. And Norum is such a sucker that when Michael Schenker got tricked into buying a 2205, he then tricked Norum into buying it from him. Talk about amp flipping. And Norum was the unfortunate recipient of that cast off from Schenker. And Norum has three of those 2205's. I'm sure all acquired through dumpster diving from stores that decided they needed smaller door stops.

And for all that is holy, the guy's pedalboard has a Dunlop Crybaby in it. Not a Teese, not a Fulltone, not a Budda, not even a Dunlop 535Q or vintage Thomas Organ era Cry Baby wah. Just a $69 Crybaby wah. And then to add insult to injury, he has a Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble next to it. Just some crappy, Made In Taiwan Boss pedal. Doesn't he know you can't play that Taiwanese Boss crap? At least get a made in Japan one and send it in for a hundred dollar mod that doesn't make it sound like the pedal it's supposed to be anymore. And that's it. You call that a pedalboard? he could go into any pawn shop on the planet and grab a used Crybaby and Boss CE-5 for less than $100.

Now in all fairness, the guy has only appeared on 50 different commercial releases so he's still a little wet behind the ears and just probably hasn't had as much of a chance to read about gear as the rest of us. He needs our help. Just like Akira Takasaki that I started an intervention thread for crappy gear about a couple of weeks ago, Mr. Norum needs our help. Let's all join together and shine a light where there is none, give a clue where there is only cluelessness, and give hope to the hopeless.

Warning: This video will bring tears to the eye of even the most hardened gear expert. Please watch as much as you can before turning away in despair. And be thankful for how much we have and how much we know, but always remember those that are less fortunate than us and don't have as busy of recording or touring schedules. Thank you very much.

 
he makes good money. let him buy his own stuff. You cant be responsible for him. he's a grown man. Your heart was in the raight place though.
 
hey Curt. I have a rockman half space chorus and I like that predelay effect and stereo seperation it gets, but as a chorus itself its kinda weird. You got anything with a great predelay for that wide sound that also does a decent chorus,
 
Gainfreak":1kxu6uxu said:
AMAZING!!! :hys:

Dude, did you see my Akira thread? That was the beginning of my personal quest to eradicate cluelessness and the inherent tonelessness that must result from it. Everyone has their own personal causes. This is now mine. Rehabilitation and reeducation of former guitar heroes and the depths of forum uncoolness their rigs have sunken to.

For crying out loud, my Mojave Peacemaker has a sale price of $3100 these days. You can buy THREE Marshall 2205's and a used Crybaby AND used CE-5 for what just my head costs nowadays. That's ridiculous for John to be playing those little gigs with that band from the 80's. Now sure, I just released a solo CD that has received rave reviews from people on forums and sold sell beyond double digits so I can afford to have all this nice gear. But still, wouldn't you think John would KNOW more about tone than this. We have to link him to our forums. But imagine how low he will feel when he learns he has been doing it all wrong.
 
Mojo Sent John, you have chops but you will never make it here :no:
 
jerrydyer":2lm5kj28 said:
he makes good money. let him buy his own stuff. You cant be responsible for him. he's a grown man. Your heart was in the right place though.

He can't make that good of money. IF HE DID he would spend it on some hipper amps and pedals that are the flavor of the month right now. At least you see my efforts for what they are, heartfelt. Does anyone know John? If so, can you link him to some forums or at least the gear review section on HC?

jerrydyer":2lm5kj28 said:
hey Curt. I have a rockman half space chorus and I like that predelay effect and stereo seperation it gets, but as a chorus itself its kinda weird. You got anything with a great predelay for that wide sound that also does a decent chorus,

Jerry,
Let me tell you, that 1/2 space Rockman Chorus sounds freaking huge for splitting two amps in stereo. That was the secret weapon of many 80's guitarists for splitting two amps in stereo. Behind the Lexicon PCM-41 and 42 and the Roland SDE-3000, that was the unit for that same sound for people on a budget. I haven't used one in years, but that thing will do THAT sound in spades. Heck, if you don't like it please donate it to Mr. Norum as it is MUCH more difficult to hunt down than that CE-5 he is using. Even if it's not that expensive, ELUSVE is something that must contribute greatly to achieving killer tones, otherwise why would we all love to chase "elusive" too?
 
Chubtone":glc24m60 said:
Gainfreak":glc24m60 said:
AMAZING!!! :hys:

Dude, did you see my Akira thread? That was the beginning of my personal quest to eradicate cluelessness and the inherent tonelessness that must result from it. Everyone has their own personal causes. This is now mine. Rehabilitation and reeducation of former guitar heroes and the depths of forum uncoolness their rigs have sunken to.

For crying out loud, my Mojave Peacemaker has a sale price of $3100 these days. You can buy THREE Marshall 2205's and a used Crybaby AND used CE-5 for what just my head costs nowadays. That's ridiculous for John to be playing those little gigs with that band from the 80's. Now sure, I just released a solo CD that has received rave reviews from people on forums and sold sell beyond double digits so I can afford to have all this nice gear. But still, wouldn't you think John would KNOW more about tone than this. We have to link him to our forums. But imagine how low he will feel when he learns he has been doing it all wrong.
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I'm in. More expensive gear = better playing, even for Johnnie boy! I'll pay for some exotic wood head cases - those improved my playing most!

Steve
 
sah5150":10ujktsk said:
I'm in. More expensive gear = better playing, even for Johnnie boy! I'll pay for some exotic wood head cases - those improved my playing most!

Steve

I can confirm that one, rare wood headshells harvested by moving third world tribes = TONE.
 
I feel awful about this. I will donate the latest and greatest audiophile-quality cables to the cause. And a luscious handcrafted Peruvian leather strap.
 
What is this heavy sounding D drop tuning he keeps refering to? Jiminy, he can't even tune his guitars! The E is tuned to B? He needs way more help with basic things before you jump in with both feet and show him the light, as it pertains to gear of course. Marshalls........ c'mon!!
 
Digital Jams":1k8bmw47 said:
sah5150":1k8bmw47 said:
I'm in. More expensive gear = better playing, even for Johnnie boy! I'll pay for some exotic wood head cases - those improved my playing most!

Steve

I can confirm that one, rare wood headshells harvested by moving third world tribes = TONE.
and CHOPS! As soon as I got my black limba, egyptian mahogany and flamed maple head case, I was able to alternate pick "Flight of the Bumblebee" at 320 bpm! My puppy requests it every night from my spare bedroom and it always ends in deafening howling of approval!

Steve
 
I'd be happy playing in front of the crowds he has :dunno:

It'd give up my tone for that anyday. Much rather have both though :thumbsup:
 
Kaleiwahea":2x5v81px said:
What is this heavy sounding D drop tuning he keeps refering to? Jiminy, he can't even tune his guitars! The E is tuned to B? He needs way more help with basic things before you jump in with both feet and show him the light, as it pertains to gear of course. Marshalls........ c'mon!!
Strong point. Perhaps a fireside chat over a glass of Louis XIII cognac while gazing at my Dumble is in order! Johnnie - I'm here for ya man!

Steve
 
Since no-one else is, I am gonna man the fuck up and send that dude some Crystal Frets.
 
ha! this is fascinating because after hanging out with Uli Jon Roth for 3 days and having the pleasure ( more pain!) to sub tech for him while his own tech was late on arrival on one show, i couldve believe what I was dealing with! At least John Norum has a pedal board! Uli travels with a suitcase that looks like something from the 70's and its literally a pile of cheap cables and cheap pedals thrown in! He actually borrowed my MXR Carbon Copy which i happened to have on hand because the two that he had were non functional due to not taking good care of them. the other winner of pedal was a beat up Octavia pedal that didnt even have a bottom seal on it and had foam taped to it to avoid electrical shock. Dunlup wah was a standard cheapy and digitech whammey was barely used. there was a tube screamer in there too that was just purchased at the local guitar center, but rarely used. His Amps were a 1959 Super Lead Reissue and Framus Cobra both set at clean stock setting, but so loud that Im positive you could damage your ear drums if u sat in front of cab. Meanwhile he makes Yngwie look like a puppy dog when it comes to demands abd controlling behavior. Patch cords are from radio shack, its ridiculous and nothing ever goes smooth in hoooking up his sky guitar ( sophisticated PU system that has its own external power source). The good news is that he sounded amazing and played shit that would make your head spin! I got my balls busted so hard, I almost said fuck it, but later he gave me a hug and said did u have fun? : )

Ant
 
sah5150":2f6aw0sh said:
Kaleiwahea":2f6aw0sh said:
What is this heavy sounding D drop tuning he keeps refering to? Jiminy, he can't even tune his guitars! The E is tuned to B? He needs way more help with basic things before you jump in with both feet and show him the light, as it pertains to gear of course. Marshalls........ c'mon!!
Strong point. Perhaps a fireside chat over a glass of Louis XIII cognac while gazing at my Dumble is in order! Johnnie - I'm here for ya man!

Steve

Cognac and a Dumble... Throw in a hand leather-bound book, and you got yourself a party!


(Seriously though... If you do have Louis XIII and a Dumble, and feel really lonely... Give me a call).
 
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