rsm
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Venezuela is the highest on the link above, 36%
rsm
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Americans need to stop attacking the Constitution, and infringing on our own rights. Starting with our ruling parasites in government at all levels.
rsm
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even Greenland has a higher per capita gun death rate than the US; due to suicide.
rsm
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Venezuela with totalitarians in charge, you can't have rights. hell, our own ruling parasites constantly deny and infringe on our rights, especially 2A.
Dan Gleesak
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So why don’t gun laws reflect our uniquely violent culture?
You can compare apples to oranges all you want, all it does is sidestep the issues
Bad Brain
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You mean like a law against murder?
...Or do you mean laws that make it more difficult, if not impossible, for peaceful, law-abiding citizens to purchase a gun?
Dan Gleesak
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You mean like a law against murder?
It should certainly be difficult for people to get guns. Not impossible, not unjustly difficult, but certainly not easy. People have to go through training and certifications for all kinds of potentially dangerous things, why not guns? Getting permit seems like more of an inconvenience than a difficulty.
Because of our constitution I don’t think there should be straight up ban, but it’s obviously too simple to get your hands on one.
Bad Brain
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As I already mentioned, guns have been increasingly difficult to obtain over the years, but that hasn't seemed to help, has it? What makes you think that restricting or impeding rights is the solution? You're essentially arguing for more violence, in that you believe the state should act, which involves it's implicit threat of violence. Remember what I was saying a few posts back?
CrazyNutz
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The problem will never be solved because it's a political game.
Left politics says we need to ban, or add more restrictions, right politics says the radical left is after your guns so the gov can take over. These two sides use it as the bogeyman, they always need a bogeyman to rally support. ?
Dan Gleesak
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Increasingly difficult compared to what? Simply having enough money to buy one?
I looked up how to get a permit in my state of Massachusetts and it seems like it’s pretty easy for anyone that isn’t a convicted felon.
I am not arguing more violence, I believe you are. If you believe humans are inherently violent creatures, why are we giving them instruments to expedite the violence?
That is why guns, and any weapons are made; to kill someone more efficiently. Guns have one purpose and one purpose only.
Sure humans can make most anything in to a weapon, but that is much different than something that is designed to be nothing but a weapon.
Dan Gleesak
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Very true. Gun rights are held up on a pedestal by too many, and also villainized by just as many. A drag queen talks to a class room and people cry “what about the children!”. Meanwhile guns kill more children then cancer and it’s “well, there isn’t much we can do about that”.The problem will never be solved because it's a political game.
Left politics says we need to ban, or add more restrictions, right politics says the radical left is after your guns so the gov can take over. These two sides use it as the bogeyman, they always need a bogeyman to rally support. ?
Guns shouldn’t be banned, but fuck if we can’t do a better job of controlling them. Everyone gets hard over their personal rights but too many completely ignore their personal responsibility with those rights
CrazyNutz
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I'd argue to say there would be less guns, and less drag queens reading books to kids, if everyone would back TF off.
One side pushes, the other side responds even crazier. American citizens are the losers here, politicians, and the media are the winners.
rsm
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not simple, depends on the local tyrants in your state and county. I went through the process (background checks, etc.) to get a state weapons carry permit issued by my county probate court for a fee to exercise my 2A right with limitations due to current infringements.
Each time I purchase a weapon, I have to show my permit and fill out government paperwork (which will eventually end up in one or more government databases) with the gun dealer.
In some states, as many anti-gun / first time buyers discovered during the pandemic they couldn't just walk into a store, buy a gun, and walk out of the store with their new gun; they had wait up to 10 days to actually possess their gun.
Stripped Rights
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It's not about TOTAL gun deaths. It's not about EVERY type of gun. It's about MASS SHOOTINGS and the large majority of them happening with AR type guns. Just like the meme Dan posted that points out how mass shootings have decreased since AR have been banned in other countries.
Bad Brain
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Like I said, in the 50's you could mail order a high-powered rifle.
Exactly. The people you want to task with restricting gun access are equally as violent, if not more so. What you seem to want is for some people to have easy access to guns, but not others.
CrazyNutz
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The funny thing about the 2A, if we were to follow it 100% citizens should be able to own anything the military has. 
Just image if your neighbor had a
Just image if your neighbor had a
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