Screw all modern high gain fancy fairy dust boutique Amps...

[Beyond Black]

My favorite is that braintheory guy that claimed every amp besides the ones he owned sounds "artificial/plastic"


Then his youtube vids were posted here sounding like a microwave filled with bees and he silently removed himself

Sam has literally tried almost everything, For him to say that about an amp, he’s very likely owned it, then moved it along. Whatever he still owns is the best of the best of what he’s tried.
Sam is cool af and an excellent guage of gear. He’s brutally honest and his descriptions are spot on imo.

 

[Beyond Black]

Clip sounds sick and filthy af, SD.

 

[thegame]

Yeah. One guy that also surprised me with tone from good amps was that yeshuda guy. He knew how to perfectly dial a good amp to sound like shit

And played with timing that sounded like Michael J Fox trying to recite Shakespeare

 

[thegame]

Sam has literally tried almost everything, For him to say that about an amp, he’s very likely owned it, then moved it along. Whatever he still owns is the best of the best of what he’s tried.
Sam is cool af and an excellent guage of gear. He’s brutally honest and his descriptions are spot on imo.

Unfortunately the recording clips he briefly posted were brutally honest as well.

 

[Smash]

I think the point is, if you dont like the taste of steak, don't buy one and try to make it into a pork sandwich.

When I boost an amp, I am trying to bring out more of the character I love about it. And obviously tighten it. I am not boosting an amp to completely change its character, otherwise I go with an amp that has more of that base and try to improve that.

Some people like boosting marshalls, others tweak a marshall circuit to bring out more of the characteristics they like within the circuit.

If I bought a recto trying to make it sound like a line 6, I would be making things way too difficult.

You dont have to buy a Larry or Wizard if you want a fuzzy sound. You buy them for the clarity, punch, immediacy, and tone. You buy them so you can play a complex chord and hear all the notes clearly. If you can dial in a fuzzy doom sludge tone to where you can clearly hear the notes of a chord, then you have serious skill. It is the exact opposite sound I would go for, and the opposite sound those amps go for.

f you don't care for that tone, nbd. But to say you don't need those amps because you can make a Marshall sound like a distortion pedal, it is a little strange. Those amps were never trying to be that.

Realistically even a jcm 800 is kind of a roundabout way to get to that tone.

 

[rsm]

 

[WizardAmpIphoneClip]

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I had one in the mid 90's. 5881's too. Cool
amp

 

[Eazy-ESP]

Sam has literally tried almost everything, For him to say that about an amp, he’s very likely owned it, then moved it along. Whatever he still owns is the best of the best of what he’s tried.
Sam is cool af and an excellent guage of gear. He’s brutally honest and his descriptions are spot on imo.

There is a guy I’ve seen for years selling gear and he gives the most un depth and accurate descriptions of the amps. All the nuance.

Then I looked up some of his demos and it was shocking how bad they sounded. I have no idea how that guy could hear, feel and understand the amps so well, but he really did. His playing and tone were like a completely different person. Amazing to me.

 

[nightlight]

That's a nice amp, thanks for the demo. Kind of felt it was a bit fuzzy too, not very tight sounding, despite the tube screamer. Probably will work amazingly for stoner doom type acts.

Also, always good to see honest demos where you actually hear the amp and it's not some shill trying to influence people and sell products by completely changing the sound using Tonematching and whatnot. So thank you for the demo.

 

[mentoneman]

sounded pretty heavy to me! paired with the right amp to double/quad track would be insane.

 

[novosibir]

What a strange noise. Hmm...
But if you like it, why not

 

[Rackman]

I'm trying to imagine the music I'd want my amp to sound like that for. And I got nothing. I guess I've just lead a sheltered life.

 

[Beyond Black]

I'm trying to imagine the music I'd want my amp to sound like that for. And I got nothing. I guess I've just lead a sheltered life.

Uhh, how about downtuned death metal?

 

[killertone]

...as far as i'm concerned.


I tried so many Amps now, except for a few like Wizard, Hermansson, Larry.
Will i try more Amps in the future to find a better one? Hell yeah. Will i find a "better" one? I doubt it.

Yeah that is a very particular type of tone. Sounds killer for sure but that type of OSDM tone is kinda niche these days. In any case, I dig it no matter what amp or pedal it was.

 

[Rackman]

Uhh, how about downtuned death metal?

Good point - next time I'm working up a Desiccated Weimaraner cover band I'll reference this thread.

 

[WizardAmpIphoneClip]

Pretty cool sound. At least there's an abrasiveness to it. Alot of that disappeared from metal by the 00's and after.
And at least it isn't a fucking Ratt or Van Galen riff

 

[Beyond Black]

Good point - next time I'm working up a Desiccated Weimaraner cover band I'll reference this thread.

Cool, post clips!

 

[Devin]

Sam has literally tried almost everything, For him to say that about an amp, he’s very likely owned it, then moved it along. Whatever he still owns is the best of the best of what he’s tried.
Sam is cool af and an excellent guage of gear. He’s brutally honest and his descriptions are spot on imo.

I've tried a ton of shit too in the 30ish years I've been playing but people who are ultra hyperbolic like him always set off my BS alarm

 

[Simon Dorn]

Is that Drop A or an 8 String or ??

A Standard

 

[Simon Dorn]

I think the point is, if you dont like the taste of steak, don't buy one and try to make it into a pork sandwich.

When I boost an amp, I am trying to bring out more of the character I love about it. And obviously tighten it. I am not boosting an amp to completely change its character, otherwise I go with an amp that has more of that base and try to improve that.

Some people like boosting marshalls, others tweak a marshall circuit to bring out more of the characteristics they like within the circuit.

If I bought a recto trying to make it sound like a line 6, I would be making things way too difficult.

You dont have to buy a Larry or Wizard if you want a fuzzy sound. You buy them for the clarity, punch, immediacy, and tone. You buy them so you can play a complex chord and hear all the notes clearly. If you can dial in a fuzzy doom sludge tone to where you can clearly hear the notes of a chord, then you have serious skill. It is the exact opposite sound I would go for, and the opposite sound those amps go for.

f you don't care for that tone, nbd. But to say you don't need those amps because you can make a Marshall sound like a distortion pedal, it is a little strange. Those amps were never trying to be that.

Realistically even a jcm 800 is kind of a roundabout way to get to that tone.

Did you ever play a loud and boosted (to your taste) 2203?