Show your rig 2017

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I have the anti-Rig-Talk rig IMO:


Guitar into 'dis (Boss GT-1):

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into 'dis (Roland CUBE Street EX):

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stereo out to PA.

I plan on getting a small mixer so I can add my Roland JD-Xi and TCH Voicelive 3 into the Roland CUBE Street EX.

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My main rig
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Drifting away from my old BCR Mockingbirds and playing these (for now)
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Martin
 
its odd to only post in a forum every few months when you see a show your rig thread and then to post the same pics we have already seen for the last 5-6 years.
 
RJF":3rdy8if6 said:
Just spent the last hour studying the Helix and also the Fractal 2 XL. It seems either of these units could take complete control of a dual amp stereo rig with ease. With my current setup being a TC Electronic G Force ran through the FX loop of each of my 2 heads, and my GCX switcher as the "brain" that splits my instrument signal and loops to add my clean boost (TS9) and control the loop on my VH4. Either the Helix or Fractal 2 XL could eliminate both rack pieces for me, add a TON more tonal options with the amp modelers, better FX quality, and simpler routing. Only catch is I have to be able to go bone dry ( guitar -> boost ->y split-> front end of both amps). I am able to do that now with the GCX and being able to turn the loops off on the amps eliminating my G Force from the chain.
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The Helix worked for me replacing my GCX, rack wah, G-Major 2, rack tuner, and midi ABC switcher thanks to the 4 loops and the TRS switching for the SP77.

RJF":3rdy8if6 said:
The Helix has 4 FX loops, the Fractal has 1. My initial thought is guitar -> Helix or Fractal -> TS9 in FX loop of either unit -> L & R outputs to front end of Herbert/VH4.

If I can go strait through either of these units dry, while turning on #1 loop (boost) into front end of amps I would eliminate needing the amps FX loops and cabling. Then when going wet obviously just turn on wanted FX accordingly and the amp models could be used through the clean channels.

I'm not sure if it can all be done with the Fractal but with the Helix and the 4 loops and main outs I'm pretty sure it's all doable. You'd essentially be running in double 4 cable method into each head if I'm wrapping my head around things correctly. Loop 1 would be TS9, loop 2 input and FX send of VH4, loop 3 input and FX send of Herbert, left 1/4" out VH4 FX return, right 1/4" out Herbert FX return. Then you can place the TS9 before the preamps of the VH4 and Herbert along with modeled pedals like a phase 90 for example and put delays post VH4 and Herbert preamps. You can then also bypass the Herbert and VH4 preamps and sub in modeled preamps from the Helix feeding direct into the power sections of the Herbert and VH4 bypassing their preamps with and without your TS9 before those modeled preamps if you wanted and delays and whatnot after them. You can also just run guitar > TS9 > herbert + VH4 dry left and right. I think you could also run guitar >TS9 > Herbert or VH4 preamp only out to both power sections so you end up with essentially a double Herbert or double VH4. The Helix has two separate DSP paths, the two lines on the screen, so you can link them together to form one long chain or you can use them independently and have the top line doing things for only the Herbert and bottom only VH4 and this is all reconfigurable based on the preset, with no physical rewiring needed, just on screen re-routing. It can get a bit complex trying to wrap your head around it since there are several ways to do things but I'm pretty sure the way I mentioned wiring it would do everything you want and more. The only tricky part will be possible ground loops since we're talking two heads in four cable method, this is true for any 4CM rig really and certainly not Helix specific. It may be no problem with zero hum or it may cause some hum and need some isolation transformers, but unfortunately that's impossible to predict from amp to amp and configuration to configuration. It can basically do anything you ask it for with the only tricky part being figuring out the best way to get it to do what you want.
 
psychodave":14r1rkz6 said:
RJF":14r1rkz6 said:
A RIG is a collection of components that work in conjunction with one another to make up a single unit..right? What always sucks about these threads is rather than seeing a RIG it just turns into pics of everyone's stuff just piled together.

Well, I have several rigs. :lol: :LOL:

One Marshall type rig uses a CCV and Aldrich amp heads, four 4x12's, multiple rack pieces and power amps.

My Mesa rig consists of a Triple and 2C++, two 4x12's and EQ's/pedals.

I also have a Mesa Triaxis rig with effects unit, custom Boogie EQ and Strategy 400.

Typically I'm running through four 4x12's. Using one 4x12 sounds like shit to me. lol

So my pic is not limited to a single rig. :D

Those are some impressive set ups! What kind of venues do you play where you can use four 4x12's?
 
sleewell2":nm61294z said:
its odd to only post in a forum every few months when you see a show your rig thread and then to post the same pics we have already seen for the last 5-6 years.

Yes, I do odd stuff. :D

Martin
 
Drew":32iroi8a said:
psychodave":32iroi8a said:
RJF":32iroi8a said:
A RIG is a collection of components that work in conjunction with one another to make up a single unit..right? What always sucks about these threads is rather than seeing a RIG it just turns into pics of everyone's stuff just piled together.

Well, I have several rigs. :lol: :LOL:

One Marshall type rig uses a CCV and Aldrich amp heads, four 4x12's, multiple rack pieces and power amps.

My Mesa rig consists of a Triple and 2C++, two 4x12's and EQ's/pedals.

I also have a Mesa Triaxis rig with effects unit, custom Boogie EQ and Strategy 400.

Typically I'm running through four 4x12's. Using one 4x12 sounds like shit to me. lol

So my pic is not limited to a single rig. :D

Those are some impressive set ups! What kind of venues do you play where you can use four 4x12's?

I play in Madison Square Basement every night.
 
Ignore the newfangled amp in the background.


With a Tubescreamer it's actually really sweet.
 
When you play in shitty clubs like us, you gotta keep things simple and compact...

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XSSIVE":396lxr6r said:
RJF":396lxr6r said:
Just spent the last hour studying the Helix and also the Fractal 2 XL. It seems either of these units could take complete control of a dual amp stereo rig with ease. With my current setup being a TC Electronic G Force ran through the FX loop of each of my 2 heads, and my GCX switcher as the "brain" that splits my instrument signal and loops to add my clean boost (TS9) and control the loop on my VH4. Either the Helix or Fractal 2 XL could eliminate both rack pieces for me, add a TON more tonal options with the amp modelers, better FX quality, and simpler routing. Only catch is I have to be able to go bone dry ( guitar -> boost ->y split-> front end of both amps). I am able to do that now with the GCX and being able to turn the loops off on the amps eliminating my G Force from the chain.
IMG_zpsy2xbghbe.jpg

The Helix worked for me replacing my GCX, rack wah, G-Major 2, rack tuner, and midi ABC switcher thanks to the 4 loops and the TRS switching for the SP77.

RJF":396lxr6r said:
The Helix has 4 FX loops, the Fractal has 1. My initial thought is guitar -> Helix or Fractal -> TS9 in FX loop of either unit -> L & R outputs to front end of Herbert/VH4.

If I can go strait through either of these units dry, while turning on #1 loop (boost) into front end of amps I would eliminate needing the amps FX loops and cabling. Then when going wet obviously just turn on wanted FX accordingly and the amp models could be used through the clean channels.

I'm not sure if it can all be done with the Fractal but with the Helix and the 4 loops and main outs I'm pretty sure it's all doable. You'd essentially be running in double 4 cable method into each head if I'm wrapping my head around things correctly. Loop 1 would be TS9, loop 2 input and FX send of VH4, loop 3 input and FX send of Herbert, left 1/4" out VH4 FX return, right 1/4" out Herbert FX return. Then you can place the TS9 before the preamps of the VH4 and Herbert along with modeled pedals like a phase 90 for example and put delays post VH4 and Herbert preamps. You can then also bypass the Herbert and VH4 preamps and sub in modeled preamps from the Helix feeding direct into the power sections of the Herbert and VH4 bypassing their preamps with and without your TS9 before those modeled preamps if you wanted and delays and whatnot after them. You can also just run guitar > TS9 > herbert + VH4 dry left and right. I think you could also run guitar >TS9 > Herbert or VH4 preamp only out to both power sections so you end up with essentially a double Herbert or double VH4. The Helix has two separate DSP paths, the two lines on the screen, so you can link them together to form one long chain or you can use them independently and have the top line doing things for only the Herbert and bottom only VH4 and this is all reconfigurable based on the preset, with no physical rewiring needed, just on screen re-routing. It can get a bit complex trying to wrap your head around it since there are several ways to do things but I'm pretty sure the way I mentioned wiring it would do everything you want and more. The only tricky part will be possible ground loops since we're talking two heads in four cable method, this is true for any 4CM rig really and certainly not Helix specific. It may be no problem with zero hum or it may cause some hum and need some isolation transformers, but unfortunately that's impossible to predict from amp to amp and configuration to configuration. It can basically do anything you ask it for with the only tricky part being figuring out the best way to get it to do what you want.
Very interesting routing. Thanks for the info, the Helix is sounding extremely enticing.
 
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