So when my Edwards LP gets here...

[Digital Jams]

I can't really see craftsmenship from any picture shown on this thread.....does not matter anyways as you can't play a picture

 

[Vrad]

Cool. Enjoy it as I enjoy my Eddies.

I'm hoping I'll dig it. I simply can't swing the price that Gibson is charging. I'm not gonna get on the whole QC thing, because I've had luck playing the new LP's in the stores. But I can't swing these prices!

 

[Vrad]

Edwards headstock on the left, Gibson Les Paul on the right. Unless the headstock comments were referring to the inlays, they are a little different...lol.

Is the Edwards a custom and the Gibson a Standard?
I see slight differences, but I'm not sure if it's the color, or the angles or what. I hardly see it as a night and day difference.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Is the Edwards a custom and the Gibson a Standard?
I see slight differences, but I'm not sure if it's the color, or the angles or what. I hardly see it as a night and day difference.

Yes the Edwards is a custom and the Gibby a standard. I took that pic awhile ago mainly to illustrate that the headstock angle is nearly the same.

It's pretty close though...lol.

 

[ratter]

Edwards headstock on the left, Gibson Les Paul on the right. Unless the headstock comments were referring to the inlays, they are a little different...lol.

I still don't understand. Are you saying they're the same or different?

The only two LPs I've owned are an Edwards and an R7, but not at the same time to compare.

As far as craftsmanship, give me a break. What can you see about craftsmanship in a blurry 400px jpg???

If there are differences in the body and headstock shapes between the Gibson and Edwards, they are probably no bigger than you would find between different models/eras of Gibson LPs...

edit - didn't see your next post before posting this...

 

[Vrad]

Is the Edwards a custom and the Gibson a Standard?
I see slight differences, but I'm not sure if it's the color, or the angles or what. I hardly see it as a night and day difference.

Yes the Edwards is a custom and the Gibby a standard. I took that pic awhile ago mainly to illustrate that the headstock angle is nearly the same.

It's pretty close though...lol.

The angle wasn't what I noticed.. The Edwards looks a tad longer... I actually like the LOOK of the edwards better! LOL!
It's so damn close I dunno... $3800 vs $800... If it sounds great, and plays great... fuck it! LOL!

 

[Vrad]

Edwards headstock on the left, Gibson Les Paul on the right. Unless the headstock comments were referring to the inlays, they are a little different...lol.

I still don't understand. Are you saying they're the same or different?

The only two LPs I've owned are an Edwards and an R7, but not at the same time to compare.

As far as craftsmanship, give me a break. What can you see about craftsmanship in a blurry 400px jpg???

If there are differences in the body and headstock shapes between the Gibson and Edwards, they are probably no bigger than you would find between different models/eras of Gibson LPs...

edit - didn't see your next post before posting this...

I'd compare a NEW LP Custom to a NEW Edwards LP Custom and their Standards to Gibsons Standards... That would be a fair comparison. I'm only talking about looks here. Sound, feel would be a different story, I'd expect differences due to pickups alone.

 

[nbarts]

I wasn't talking about craftsmanship looking at pics. I'm talking about craftsmanship holding both in my hands. I'm a long time Edwards LP admirer as a guitar on its own, but please, don't try to blind me that Edwards & Gibson Customs are the same. They are just not. If you don't see the difference it's cool, really, no need to get frustrated about it.

 

[ratter]

I wasn't talking about craftsmanship looking at pics. I'm talking about craftsmanship holding both in my hands. I'm a long time Edwards LP admirer as a guitar on its own, but please, don't try to blind me that Edwards & Gibson Customs are the same. They are just not. If you don't see the difference it's cool, really, no need to get frustrated about it.

You criticized Vlad's ability to compare craftsmanship when all HE has to go by so far is pics. He doesn't have the guitar yet!

I don't see anybody saying anything other than they LOOK the same. You disagree. Maybe if you were a little more specific as to how they look different, it would help those of us that aren't seeing it.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

I still don't understand. Are you saying they're the same or different?

The only two LPs I've owned are an Edwards and an R7, but not at the same time to compare.

As far as craftsmanship, give me a break. What can you see about craftsmanship in a blurry 400px jpg???

If there are differences in the body and headstock shapes between the Gibson and Edwards, they are probably no bigger than you would find between different models/eras of Gibson LPs...

edit - didn't see your next post before posting this...

No problem

You'll never hear me say that an Edwards is exactly like a Gibby LPC, they are different.

But for 1/4 the price you can get 3/4 of the way there imo, and for some people that is an acceptable tradeoff if they don't have the finances for a Gibby.

Gibsons feel different, and there is a difference in the wood used as well and other factors etc...

lolz

 

[Shiny_Surface]

I'd compare a NEW LP Custom to a NEW Edwards LP Custom and their Standards to Gibsons Standards... That would be a fair comparison. I'm only talking about looks here. Sound, feel would be a different story, I'd expect differences due to pickups alone.

Hey Vlad the only reason I took that pic awhile ago was because there was a thread where people were saying that the Epiphone Les Pauls have a different headstock angle than a real Gibson and some were commenting that the Edwards headstock angle was closer to an Epiphone so I posted that pic.

I suppose it was out of context in this thread but since headstocks were mentioned...

 

[Klark]

Neither the body or the headstock on Edwards look anything like Gibson.

Give us a break. Get over your precious Gibson and spare us. You don't see anyone crying the blues about Strat copies, and you can't swing a stick without hitting one of those.

And even if there is a tiny difference in certain spots, does it really matter? If you get up onstage to show off your guitars, then maybe you should start a clinic where you speak in front of a crowd about how truly boring & unoriginal your actual Les Pauls are. Or you do like Strat copy players do and get up onstage to play because it doesn't make a shits difference what you're playing and never will.

I've played about 10 copies, and all of them have had everything I want in a Les Paul.. The tone, great feel, and good weight. Now to date, I've probably played hundreds of actual Gibson's, and I've yet to find one that has all three qualities, without spending $5000 or more.

The bottom line is If Gibson would fire all of their attorneys and spend that money on actually building a guitar worth $3000, they'd soon find out that Les Paul copies would dwindle away very quickly.

 

[ratter]

Gibsons feel different, and there is a difference in the wood used as well and other factors etc...

lolz

Yeah, mine absolutely felt different. Heavier mahogany on the Gibson for one thing. I think the Edwards is probably Sapele?

But as for the look of the body and headstock that nbarts is talking about, I'm not seeing the big difference...

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Gibsons feel different, and there is a difference in the wood used as well and other factors etc...

lolz

Yeah, mine absolutely felt different. Heavier mahogany on the Gibson for one thing. I think the Edwards is probably Sapele?

But as for the look of the body and headstock that nbarts is talking about, I'm not seeing the big difference...

Yeah the Edwards mahogany is less dense and more resonant compared to the Gibby's I've played.

One thing I can say is, the woodgrain on the Edwards at least looks like mahogany when I scraped off some finish and had a look at it. Alot closer than Korean Schecter "nato" wood (or other mid priced Korean guitars imo) that is marketed as mahogany and the woodgrain looks nothing like it imo.

 

[nbarts]

Neither the body or the headstock on Edwards look anything like Gibson.

Give us a break. Get over your precious Gibson and spare us. You don't see anyone crying the blues about Strat copies, and you can't swing a stick without hitting one of those.

And even if there is a tiny difference in certain spots, does it really matter? If you get up onstage to show off your guitars, then maybe you should start a clinic where you speak in front of a crowd about how truly boring & unoriginal your actual Les Pauls are. Or you do like Strat copy players do and get up onstage to play because it doesn't make a shits difference what you're playing and never will.

I've played about 10 copies, and all of them have had everything I want in a Les Paul.. The tone, great feel, and good weight. Now to date, I've probably played hundreds of actual Gibson's, and I've yet to find one that has all three qualities, without spending $5000 or more.

The bottom line is If Gibson would fire all of their attorneys and spend that money on actually building a guitar worth $3000, they'd soon find out that Les Paul copies would dwindle away very quickly.

That was absolutely unnecessary. What is your argument? I don't own a single Gibson as of now FYI. I actually prefer Edwards LP's sound over Gibson LP's sound. What's your point? Do you feel intimidated by people who own Gibson LPs? Or is it just everything that costs big dollars that creeps you out?

 

[nbarts]

I wasn't talking about craftsmanship looking at pics. I'm talking about craftsmanship holding both in my hands. I'm a long time Edwards LP admirer as a guitar on its own, but please, don't try to blind me that Edwards & Gibson Customs are the same. They are just not. If you don't see the difference it's cool, really, no need to get frustrated about it.

You criticized Vlad's ability to compare craftsmanship when all HE has to go by so far is pics. He doesn't have the guitar yet!

I don't see anybody saying anything other than they LOOK the same. You disagree. Maybe if you were a little more specific as to how they look different, it would help those of us that aren't seeing it.

I wasn't criticizing Vlad's ability of anything, all I was saying was that if a Gibson clone was what he wanted Orville would be the place to look at. But somehow my simple advice turned into Gibson vs Edwards debate.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Well, I guess you are not as critical to craftsmanship as I am. I can see a world of differences just in pics. In person there are 2 completely different guitars to me.

But if it looks the same to you, it's all that matters.

Holy crap...The Gear Page is that way >

Hey Vrad, how did you ever manage to drive to Paiges those couple of times? You know, being blind and all?

 

[VoodooChild24]

Let's just all get along. I haven't tried the Edwards but I heard they are the closest to Gibby LP sound. I own a ESP Eclipse and that is night and day compared to Gibby LP in terms of sound.

I might try an Edwards down the line.

 

[ratter]

I wasn't criticizing Vlad's ability of anything, all I was saying was that if a Gibson clone was what he wanted Orville would be the place to look at. But somehow my simple advice turned into Gibson vs Edwards debate.

Well you did, but maybe you didn't mean to.

But how about answering my question - what are the differences in look, exactly?

I'm not into the Gibson vs. Edwards quality debate....it's pointless IMO...

 

[RockStarNick]

Obviously the headstock, inlays, and other accessory details are different. but I'm trying to focus on the body shape. Is the edwards body profile different at all? Hard for me to tell, looks pretty accurate to me.