So when my Edwards LP gets here...

[shreder75]

and the styrofoam peanuts..must know if they're gibson spec

NOS styrofoam from 1960! LOL!

much better than 9th gen reissue styrofoam

 

[nbarts]

Night and day! Who's who?

They look the same. I know which is which because I know those pictures. I was on the Edwards site the other day reading the specs on the guitar. Aside from that, it's really just the knobs. If you rotate the picture and put them side by side they're identical.

The difference is in the arch top, not the contour.

Whatever, I'm out of here.

Let us know how you like your guitar when it arrives.

 

[Vrad]

Night and day! Who's who?

They look the same. I know which is which because I know those pictures. I was on the Edwards site the other day reading the specs on the guitar. Aside from that, it's really just the knobs. If you rotate the picture and put them side by side they're identical.

The difference is in the arch top, not the contour.

Whatever, I'm out of here.

Let us know how you like your guitar when it arrives.

Oh I think I see what you're saying. The curve is different. It looks like a less 'smooth' transition between depths.
Anyway.. It's not a huge deal...

I'll post a review of the guitar when I get it.

 

[Vrad]

and the styrofoam peanuts..must know if they're gibson spec

NOS styrofoam from 1960! LOL!

much better than 9th gen reissue styrofoam

Yeah that's Chinese styrofoam. It blows!

 

[thiswaythatway]

I don't subscribe to that camp at all. I'm a believer in the shape of the guitar, the body wood, scale, bridge, tilt back neck design, etc. I think the Singlecut designs like this are the best sounding guitars for rock and metal. But, in no way shape or form does it have to say Gibson on the headstock.

And what does it mean to sound like a Gibson anyway? Some Gibsons sound like shit and lot's of them sound great. All the new standards are chambered, that's not a bad thing though it doesn't seem to affect the tone as much as chambered Superstrats IMHO. I don't think the new LP's have much on a the SC245's. I'm skeptical on the Edwards, i need to play one first. I played Paiges Tokai and it felt like a cheap toy.

My Edwards has a cheap feel to it, IMO. If you want to call it that. I think it's because of the lighter body wood - it has a light dry feel to it. And also the finish on mine is a rough/relic'ed lacquer that kinda feels halfway done, sort of like the Gibson Faded series and some of the ESP/LTD LP styles. Those two aspects don't leave the best impression. But if I think about it, the best LP I ever played was very light. And the Edwards sounds and feels better than my R7 did and is a ton of fun to play, so I can put up with the flaws. Especially for the price.

If price was no object, I'd go cherry pick an R8 or R9. But that isn't a knock on the Edwards when you consider the price difference.

Matt had one a while back. It was one of those Lacquer Taste (tee hee) LP's. Now this particular guitar wouldn't stay in tune for whatever reason. That major issue aside, the actual tone was GREAAT!! But I do know what you're saying that it feels sorta cheap. The bridge wasn't as heavy as feeling as the LP's that I've played, but the tone was there. It was massive sounding... out of tune as fuck but sounded great!

Ever play a PRS SC? I owned one years ago and it was really nice. They feel different from a good LP and with the longer scale they sound a little different, but they rock! The sc245's sound a bit more like a good sounding LP.

 

[ratter]

Some Gibsons have the dish carve too. But you have to be like really super critical of craftsmanship to know important things like that.

 

[Vrad]

I don't subscribe to that camp at all. I'm a believer in the shape of the guitar, the body wood, scale, bridge, tilt back neck design, etc. I think the Singlecut designs like this are the best sounding guitars for rock and metal. But, in no way shape or form does it have to say Gibson on the headstock.

And what does it mean to sound like a Gibson anyway? Some Gibsons sound like shit and lot's of them sound great. All the new standards are chambered, that's not a bad thing though it doesn't seem to affect the tone as much as chambered Superstrats IMHO. I don't think the new LP's have much on a the SC245's. I'm skeptical on the Edwards, i need to play one first. I played Paiges Tokai and it felt like a cheap toy.

My Edwards has a cheap feel to it, IMO. If you want to call it that. I think it's because of the lighter body wood - it has a light dry feel to it. And also the finish on mine is a rough/relic'ed lacquer that kinda feels halfway done, sort of like the Gibson Faded series and some of the ESP/LTD LP styles. Those two aspects don't leave the best impression. But if I think about it, the best LP I ever played was very light. And the Edwards sounds and feels better than my R7 did and is a ton of fun to play, so I can put up with the flaws. Especially for the price.

If price was no object, I'd go cherry pick an R8 or R9. But that isn't a knock on the Edwards when you consider the price difference.

Matt had one a while back. It was one of those Lacquer Taste (tee hee) LP's. Now this particular guitar wouldn't stay in tune for whatever reason. That major issue aside, the actual tone was GREAAT!! But I do know what you're saying that it feels sorta cheap. The bridge wasn't as heavy as feeling as the LP's that I've played, but the tone was there. It was massive sounding... out of tune as fuck but sounded great!

Ever play a PRS SC? I owned one years ago and it was really nice. They feel different from a good LP and with the longer scale they sound a little different, but they rock! The sc245's sound a bit more like a good sounding LP.

I have! I thought with the SC245 I would have a Gibson alternative, but I played it and didn't like it at all. It felt fine, but the pickups were soooo dull! I plugged right into a Gibson Traditional goldtop and it sounded awesome!

 

[Vrad]

Some Gibsons have the dish carve too. But you have to be like really super critical of craftsmanship to know important things like that.

Yeah... it's not a big deal to me at all. I thought nbarts was referring to the shape of the guitar. I couldn't figure out how it was different. I didn't notice it until he pointed it out to me. If I don't notice, then who cares right?!

 

[ratter]

Some Gibsons have the dish carve too. But you have to be like really super critical of craftsmanship to know important things like that.

Yeah... it's not a big deal to me at all. I thought nbarts was referring to the shape of the guitar. I couldn't figure out how it was different. I didn't notice it until he pointed it out to me. If I don't notice, then who cares right?!

Exactly. That's why I'm ribbing nbarts about it - he made it out like some major difference when really it's completely inconsequential and only sometimes true. My LP-130 has the dish. But so does an R9.

Whether or not you end up liking like the guitar, it won't be because of the arch or lack thereof...

 

[Vrad]

Some Gibsons have the dish carve too. But you have to be like really super critical of craftsmanship to know important things like that.

Yeah... it's not a big deal to me at all. I thought nbarts was referring to the shape of the guitar. I couldn't figure out how it was different. I didn't notice it until he pointed it out to me. If I don't notice, then who cares right?!

Exactly. That's why I'm ribbing nbarts about it - he made it out like some major difference when really it's completely inconsequential and only sometimes true. My LP-130 has the dish. But so does an R9.

Whether or not you end up liking like the guitar, it won't be because of the arch or lack thereof...

Exactly! When he said "night and day" I took it as just that! Sure as hell isn't a deal breaker!

 

[Stramm8]

Here's pic of my Gibson Custom Shop...uh hem, cough, I mean Edwards JP Les Paul.

Here's another. I don't know if you can see it in this picture but the guy who had it before me put a Gibson Overlay on the headstock. For what it's worth, I've owned 4 '58 reissues and 2 of them sucked. All cost me over $2800 at the various times of purchase; the Edwards cost me $900.00. Now I will not say it is on par with a Gibson Custom shop in terms of quality, fit and finish (although it has one of them beat) but is sounds like a les paul, imho.
So does this:
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=44036

 

[nbarts]

ratter,

This one is a special for you. Side by side in the same spot with the same camera. As you can see Orville does what one would call a replica. Can you see the difference in shape? I certainly hope so.

 

[Vrad]

ratter,

This one is a special for you. Side by side in the same spot with the same camera. As you can see Orville does what one would call a replica. Can you see the difference in shape? I certainly hope so.

Ok there's a difference. But I gotta say, the Edwards headstock looks better to me... LOL!

 

[mrp5150]

Would love to see clips posted with the following being played one at a time,

Gibson LP
Tokai
Edwards
PRS
Heritage
Hamer
Epiphone
ESP
Collins
Rondo
Ibanez
LTD

Would love to see" nothing sounds like a Gibson" to the test. Of course the guys that have stated that will have to put some scratch up to prove this fact

Reminds me of when you kept saying something about how you were going to post a clip of all your guitars so people could try to guess which was which and you never did.

Those guitars you listed won't sound alike in person. They may in a clip, but we all know that clips can sound drastically different than when you're playing gear in person.

 

[shreder75]

vlad would make a wash tub bass sound like a stratovarious

he's just THAT damn dreamy

 

[shreder75]

vlad, you're gonna dig the thing..you played mine and loved it....even though the nut on mine was fucked 8 ways to sunday....lol

 

[ratter]

ratter,

This one is a special for you. Side by side in the same spot with the same camera. As you can see Orville does what one would call a replica. Can you see the difference in shape? I certainly hope so.

You're right, truly a night and day difference. Astonishing really. They are millime...err....WORLDS apart.

What is that one on the left anyway....a telecaster? Is it a mandolin of some kind?

 

[nbarts]

Are you talking about the p-bass?

 

[Valtiel]

ratter,

This one is a special for you. Side by side in the same spot with the same camera. As you can see Orville does what one would call a replica. Can you see the difference in shape? I certainly hope so.

You're right, truly a night and day difference. Astonishing really. They are millime...err....WORLDS apart.

What is that one on the left anyway....a telecaster? Is it a mandolin of some kind?

 

[Vrad]

vlad would make a wash tub bass sound like a stratovarious

he's just THAT damn dreamy

LOL! I can play broomstick with a rubber band attached to it and be happy with it! LOL!
I'm not a picky guy... LOL!