Soldano SLO 100 vs Soldano Hot Rod 50 - side by side

[hopkinWFG]

hey guys... how about comparing a C3 SLOclone to the soldano 100 ? i have a kit which i halted lately but i will soon complete it... am curious on how the SLOclone sounded too

 

[FourT6and2]

So what's the difference tone wise between the SLO and a SLO clone with Onetics transformer?
Close enough? Huge difference?

hey guys... how about comparing a C3 SLOclone to the soldano 100 ? i have a kit which i halted lately but i will soon complete it... am curious on how the SLOclone sounded too

I put my clone side by side with a real SLO and frankly, very little—if any—difference. I haven't found any good clips on YouTube of a C3 Clone though. They all are recorded pretty badly. Even the one I did sounds awful hahah! Go check out SgtThump's YT vids where he compares an SLO to a 5150 and a Diezel. And you'll see that in all reality... most high gain amps sound similar and all this tone chasing BS is just splitting hairs. I'm just really tired of all the subtle nuances between high-gain amps being blown out into huge night-and-day debates. Most tube amps all sound similar. Just pick your freakin' flavor. A little more salt here, a little less pepper there.

If anybody in the Bay Area has a real SLO and wants to set up an A/B thing we can record, I'm all for it.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

WAyyyyyyyy too much talk. Just play already. There are hardly any sample audio tones from which to hear a difference! In fact they should be back to back so the ear can really see how different they are rather than taking a break in between to chatter. For what it is worth though, I hear the clarity and sizzle from the SLO here and it is a no brainer which one I would pick if I had the cash to.

 

[FourT6and2]

WAyyyyyyyy too much talk. Just play already. There are hardly any sample audio tones from which to hear a difference! In fact they should be back to back so the ear can really see how different they are rather than taking a break in between to chatter. For what it is worth though, I hear the clarity and sizzle from the SLO here and it is a no brainer which one I would pick if I had the cash to.

Just goes to show not everybody likes what everybody likes. I hate "sizzle." Sounds fizzy and like white noise. I prefer an EQ that removes it all. Clarity = good, though. Sizzle = barf. If I wanted to hear white noise, I'd put the TV on to one of the broken channels

 

[journeyman73]

WAyyyyyyyy too much talk. Just play already. There are hardly any sample audio tones from which to hear a difference! In fact they should be back to back so the ear can really see how different they are rather than taking a break in between to chatter. For what it is worth though, I hear the clarity and sizzle from the SLO here and it is a no brainer which one I would pick if I had the cash to.

why don't YOOOUUUUUUU do a clip comparing the two, already?

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

WAyyyyyyyy too much talk. Just play already. There are hardly any sample audio tones from which to hear a difference! In fact they should be back to back so the ear can really see how different they are rather than taking a break in between to chatter. For what it is worth though, I hear the clarity and sizzle from the SLO here and it is a no brainer which one I would pick if I had the cash to.

why don't YOOOUUUUUUU do a clip comparing the two, already?

Put me in a room with the amps and gladly. But seeing as I don't have/ want to spend 6K on both amps, I will armchair quarter back. Look it is simple, if you want to be helpful and make clips, at the very least, organize yourself so that at least 50% content can be actual audio. Listening to someone talk off screen isn't a very good comparison demo video. My two cents.

 

[FourT6and2]

WAyyyyyyyy too much talk. Just play already. There are hardly any sample audio tones from which to hear a difference! In fact they should be back to back so the ear can really see how different they are rather than taking a break in between to chatter. For what it is worth though, I hear the clarity and sizzle from the SLO here and it is a no brainer which one I would pick if I had the cash to.

why don't YOOOUUUUUUU do a clip comparing the two, already?

Put me in a room with the amps and gladly. But seeing as I don't have/ want to spend 6K on both amps, I will armchair quarter back. Look it is simple, if you want to be helpful and make clips, at the very least, organize yourself so that at least 50% content can be actual audio. Listening to someone talk off screen isn't a very good comparison demo video. My two cents.

But his accent is so dreamy.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

WAyyyyyyyy too much talk. Just play already. There are hardly any sample audio tones from which to hear a difference! In fact they should be back to back so the ear can really see how different they are rather than taking a break in between to chatter. For what it is worth though, I hear the clarity and sizzle from the SLO here and it is a no brainer which one I would pick if I had the cash to.

why don't YOOOUUUUUUU do a clip comparing the two, already?

Put me in a room with the amps and gladly. But seeing as I don't have/ want to spend 6K on both amps, I will armchair quarter back. Look it is simple, if you want to be helpful and make clips, at the very least, organize yourself so that at least 50% content can be actual audio. Listening to someone talk off screen isn't a very good comparison demo video. My two cents.

But his accent is so dreamy.

this I can't argue with... it is indeed a great accent.

 

[journeyman73]

WAyyyyyyyy too much talk. Just play already. There are hardly any sample audio tones from which to hear a difference! In fact they should be back to back so the ear can really see how different they are rather than taking a break in between to chatter. For what it is worth though, I hear the clarity and sizzle from the SLO here and it is a no brainer which one I would pick if I had the cash to.

why don't YOOOUUUUUUU do a clip comparing the two, already?

Put me in a room with the amps and gladly. But seeing as I don't have/ want to spend 6K on both amps, I will armchair quarter back. Look it is simple, if you want to be helpful and make clips, at the very least, organize yourself so that at least 50% content can be actual audio. Listening to someone talk off screen isn't a very good comparison demo video. My two cents.

just think there are better/nicer ways to give some feedback is all.

 

[Racerxrated]

Dudes, here's the deal...clips are just not the most reliable. If you can't play one yourself I get the need for them. And recorded the right way, you can get a crate to sound good...no offense. But if you have a chance to play one and TURN IT UP..... I guarantee you you will know the difference. You need to play one yourself at volume...and not 5-6. 2 or 3 is fine...they kill at reasonable levels too.

 

[Racerxrated]

So what's the difference tone wise between the SLO and a SLO clone with Onetics transformer?
Close enough? Huge difference?

hey guys... how about comparing a C3 SLOclone to the soldano 100 ? i have a kit which i halted lately but i will soon complete it... am curious on how the SLOclone sounded too

I put my clone side by side with a real SLO and frankly, very little—if any—difference. I haven't found any good clips on YouTube of a C3 Clone though. They all are recorded pretty badly. Even the one I did sounds awful hahah! Go check out SgtThump's YT vids where he compares an SLO to a 5150 and a Diezel. And you'll see that in all reality... most high gain amps sound similar and all this tone chasing BS is just splitting hairs. I'm just really tired of all the subtle nuances between high-gain amps being blown out into huge night-and-day debates. Most tube amps all sound similar. Just pick your freakin' flavor. A little more salt here, a little less pepper there.

If anybody in the Bay Area has a real SLO and wants to set up an A/B thing we can record, I'm all for it.

Seriously???? No difference?? Did you turn them both up to a decent volume? Because if your clone REALLY stays with the SLOs clarity and thump at a high volume then I'm gonna look into one. The only amps that rival an SLO to me are the VHT products, at least in clarity/articulation. That I've played anyway.

 

[Elric]

I put my clone side by side with a real SLO and frankly, very little—if any—difference. I haven't found any good clips on YouTube of a C3 Clone though. They all are recorded pretty badly. Even the one I did sounds awful hahah! Go check out SgtThump's YT vids where he compares an SLO to a 5150 and a Diezel. And you'll see that in all reality... most high gain amps sound similar and all this tone chasing BS is just splitting hairs. I'm just really tired of all the subtle nuances between high-gain amps being blown out into huge night-and-day debates. Most tube amps all sound similar. Just pick your freakin' flavor. A little more salt here, a little less pepper there.

If anybody in the Bay Area has a real SLO and wants to set up an A/B thing we can record, I'm all for it.

Tons of Truth here.

PLUS: If the dude playing, dialing, and/or the listener knows which is which (i.e. every single time) there's going to be a ridiculous amount of psychology in the mix. Everyone is going to tell you the $3000 amp is "magical" or 3d or some other unquantifiable thing.

 

[FourT6and2]

Seriously???? No difference?? Did you turn them both up to a decent volume? Because if your clone REALLY stays with the SLOs clarity and thump at a high volume then I'm gonna look into one. The only amps that rival an SLO to me are the VHT products, at least in clarity/articulation. That I've played anyway.

I didn't say no difference. I said very little—if any—difference. It's akin to a good Marshall clone, like a Metro Plexi, compared to the real thing.

I'd actually like some more time with the real deal. So if anybody has one in my area, let's meet up and put this shit to the test on a recording.

 

[FourT6and2]

I put my clone side by side with a real SLO and frankly, very little—if any—difference. I haven't found any good clips on YouTube of a C3 Clone though. They all are recorded pretty badly. Even the one I did sounds awful hahah! Go check out SgtThump's YT vids where he compares an SLO to a 5150 and a Diezel. And you'll see that in all reality... most high gain amps sound similar and all this tone chasing BS is just splitting hairs. I'm just really tired of all the subtle nuances between high-gain amps being blown out into huge night-and-day debates. Most tube amps all sound similar. Just pick your freakin' flavor. A little more salt here, a little less pepper there.

If anybody in the Bay Area has a real SLO and wants to set up an A/B thing we can record, I'm all for it.

Tons of Truth here.

PLUS: If the dude playing, dialing, and/or the listener knows which is which (i.e. every single time) there's going to be a ridiculous amount of psychology in the mix. Everyone is going to tell you the $3000 amp is "magical" or 3d or some other unquantifiable thing.

Agreed.

I think Sgt. Thump's vids are really good actually. He has a bunch of various amps and they all tend to sound similar. And that mirrors my experience with all the amps I've owned as well. They basically sound like high-gain amps. End of story. Maybe one has SLIGHTLY more this or that in one area. But reach up with one of your magical, mystical, mojo-fingers and turn the treble or mid knob a little and boom... you can pretty much make one amp sound like another—as long as they have similar architectures. I think he did a few vids of back-to-back comparisons with Diezel, SLO, 5150, VHT, and some others. Same guitar, same cab, same speakers, same mic/camera, etc. And he's honest about it. I think in one of his vids with the SLO/5150, he says something like, "Well that right there... that... there's not really a world of difference between 'em..." Ain't that the fuckin' truth.

 

[hopkinWFG]

I put my clone side by side with a real SLO and frankly, very little—if any—difference. I haven't found any good clips on YouTube of a C3 Clone though. They all are recorded pretty badly. Even the one I did sounds awful hahah! Go check out SgtThump's YT vids where he compares an SLO to a 5150 and a Diezel. And you'll see that in all reality... most high gain amps sound similar and all this tone chasing BS is just splitting hairs. I'm just really tired of all the subtle nuances between high-gain amps being blown out into huge night-and-day debates. Most tube amps all sound similar. Just pick your freakin' flavor. A little more salt here, a little less pepper there.

If anybody in the Bay Area has a real SLO and wants to set up an A/B thing we can record, I'm all for it.

Tons of Truth here.

PLUS: If the dude playing, dialing, and/or the listener knows which is which (i.e. every single time) there's going to be a ridiculous amount of psychology in the mix. Everyone is going to tell you the $3000 amp is "magical" or 3d or some other unquantifiable thing.

Agreed.

I think Sgt. Thump's vids are really good actually. He has a bunch of various amps and they all tend to sound similar. And that mirrors my experience with all the amps I've owned as well. They basically sound like high-gain amps. End of story. Maybe one has SLIGHTLY more this or that in one area. But reach up with one of your magical, mystical, mojo-fingers and turn the treble or mid knob a little and boom... you can pretty much make one amp sound like another—as long as they have similar architectures. I think he did a few vids of back-to-back comparisons with Diezel, SLO, 5150, VHT, and some others. Same guitar, same cab, same speakers, same mic/camera, etc. And he's honest about it. I think in one of his vids with the SLO/5150, he says something like, "Well that right there... that... there's not really a world of difference between 'em..." Ain't that the fuckin' truth.

oh i then have to quickly finish off with that SLOclone i got off from C3... thanks and yeah i know you build a few sloclones and they are looking fantastic !

 

[s_swanson]

I put my clone side by side with a real SLO and frankly, very little—if any—difference. I haven't found any good clips on YouTube of a C3 Clone though. They all are recorded pretty badly. Even the one I did sounds awful hahah! Go check out SgtThump's YT vids where he compares an SLO to a 5150 and a Diezel. And you'll see that in all reality... most high gain amps sound similar and all this tone chasing BS is just splitting hairs. I'm just really tired of all the subtle nuances between high-gain amps being blown out into huge night-and-day debates. Most tube amps all sound similar. Just pick your freakin' flavor. A little more salt here, a little less pepper there.

If anybody in the Bay Area has a real SLO and wants to set up an A/B thing we can record, I'm all for it.

Tons of Truth here.

PLUS: If the dude playing, dialing, and/or the listener knows which is which (i.e. every single time) there's going to be a ridiculous amount of psychology in the mix. Everyone is going to tell you the $3000 amp is "magical" or 3d or some other unquantifiable thing.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I remember Pete Thorn doing a demo of a real Friedman (Marsha at the time) vs. an Axe FX model of the amp without telling people which was which...most people on rig-talk guessed wrong.

 

[Racerxrated]

I don't know man...there's a shit ton of difference between a 5150 and an SLO. Sorry but suggesting there isn't is laughable. I know one is based off the other..but cmon...I've played them both. It seems to me that people who actually own/have owned one and spent a decent amount of time with an SLO know. I guess the only truth here is that everyone hears things differently. I'm glad for all of you that like your amps...its a great feeling to be happy with your tone. But i always chuckle a bit when i see these threads about "this sounds just like....." No. If you come to that conclusion after owning an SLO and spending some time with it, more power to you. Theres a reason many world class players choose an SLO over other amps. I'll just leave it at that.

 

[JB6464]

"Theres a reason many world class players choose an SLO over other amps" .


Then most of those same players sell them and go back to their modified Marshall's and Fenders after a few years of using them , back to where it all started .

 

[Racerxrated]

"Theres a reason many world class players choose an SLO over other amps" .


Then most of those same players sell them and go back to their modified Marshall's and Fenders after a few years of using them , back to where it all started .

yeah me too..though I'm not a world class player. Just can't justify a 2500 amp when I love a good Marshall just as much. But my point was more to the 5150 comparison. Any number of those players (Clapton, Moore, Haynes, DeMartini, Lynch) would easily have gotten an endorsement by Peavey if they really thought the 5150 was the same. And then they wouldn't have to actually buy the amps, which they did from Soldano. Like I said, just get yourselves your 5150s, SLO clones, whatever. I feel bad for the dude who spends 2K on a SLO clone and has it built by someone, hence the high cost. When he could have saved 400 more and gotten the real thing used. And when/if they sell the SLO they will get their money back. If they sell the clone ....maybe 800-1k.

 

[messenger]

"Theres a reason many world class players choose an SLO over other amps" .


Then most of those same players sell them and go back to their modified Marshall's and Fenders after a few years of using them , back to where it all started .

yeah me too..though I'm not a world class player. Just can't justify a 2500 amp when I love a good Marshall just as much. But my point was more to the 5150 comparison. Any number of those players (Clapton, Moore, Haynes, DeMartini, Lynch) would easily have gotten an endorsement by Peavey if they really thought the 5150 was the same. And then they wouldn't have to actually buy the amps, which they did from Soldano. Like I said, just get yourselves your 5150s, SLO clones, whatever. I feel bad for the dude who spends 2K on a SLO clone and has it built by someone, hence the high cost. When he could have saved 400 more and gotten the real thing used. And when/if they sell the SLO they will get their money back. If they sell the clone ....maybe 800-1k.

When those guys bought those amp there was no 5150. And the SLO was arguably the first of its kind.