Shark Diver
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Elric":26jzfxm8 said:
What would you want different than the 1 rack space tube amps out their now?
What would you want different than the 1 rack space tube amps out their now?
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dirtyfunkg
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Shark Diver":yvqeco60 said:
6L6 power section at 40W per side. I would name it the LXII.
Shark Diver
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dirtyfunkg
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Maybe I should have used a green font.
Piero the Guitarero
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Shark Diver":8lo3y9xt said:
David, more pics and info @ Rig-Talk
Fryette LXII - 1u rackmount 40w stereo/80 watt mono
Shark Diver
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Piero the Guitarero":6zllse05 said:Shark Diver":6zllse05 said:
David, more pics and info @ Rig-Talk
Fryette LXII - 1u rackmount 40w stereo/80 watt mono
lol, had no idea. Just trying to help.
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Dented42ford
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To all those asking about the LXII, there will be an official announcement regarding it sometime in the next couple of days. Suffice it to say that the GP/DI and the "other product" have had no effect on the LXII's development and release - they were simply ready to release earlier.
Hey Gopal!
Unfortunately, the GP/DI doesn't work quite as discretely as that. The "power section" and "preamp section" are intrinsically linked, and have to be due to the way that the ~1w power section works. The small-triode-based power amp has fundamentally different design requirements and constraints than the typical large-pentode-based (or beam tetrode) power sections in most guitar amplifiers. This limitation would not just apply to the GP/DI, but to any amplifier using a similar arrangement.
The fact is that an effects loop, in a traditional sense, wouldn't really work in the GP/DI. I wanted that feature, too, but when we were experimenting with it, there were simply too many compromises that had to be made to get it to work in a barely-satisfactory manner. The usual goal of an FX loop is to effect the signal post-gain, in order to keep the sound from getting muddy or indistinct from applying time-based effects to an input signal. The power section of the GP/DI is an integral part of the sound of the amp, and an FX loop would not be able to effectively serve this purpose - since the power amp would still be 'hit hard' by the sound of your delays or reverbs, and therefore still saturated, the loop would lose it's effectiveness.
Additionally, the "preamp out" of the GP/DI is a bit of a misnomer - it is actually the output of the LOAD stage, after the ~1w power amplifier. It simply bypasses the rest of the circuit ("Cab section" and the balancing circuitry) so that you can use it in a traditional pre-power-cab arrangement. It is not horribly dissimilar to the way the GP3 worked, but it has been significantly modified to make it both more effective and capable of operating as an independent amp.
As to being able to use the "Cab Section" independently of the rest of the GP/DI, that is also unfortunately not really feasible. It isn't really an "independent circuit" as such, but is actually dependent upon and interactive with the operation of the preceding stages. We can, and likely will, adapt the technology of the "Cab" into a more generalized product, but as it operates within the GP/DI, it is inseparable from the rest of the unit. That being said, the "preamp out" does bypass the "Cab", and there will likely be another way to bypass it in the shipping unit (so you can use computer/other cab sims, if you like).
I know it is tempting to think of something like the GP/DI as a bunch of independent, discreet sections, but that really isn't the case. The whole amplifier has been designed to work together - it is a complete system, not just a collection of features. However, we aren't infallible, and we may have forgotten something in the design. Please keep the feature suggestions coming!
If you want metal tones, get someone you know in LA to come help us out with them! It isn't that the GP/DI doesn't do them so much as that neither Steve nor I are capable of effectively playing in that kind of style. I know Fryette has a reputation as a "metal amp company", but believe it or not most of us really tend more towards classic rock and the cleaner end of things - I mean, I demo'd with a Gretsch and a Jazzmaster !
The little monster is capable of the same range of tones as the Deliverance or Pittbull series - they all come from the same DNA, after all!
dirtyfunkg":84m8x61l said:
Hey Gopal!
Unfortunately, the GP/DI doesn't work quite as discretely as that. The "power section" and "preamp section" are intrinsically linked, and have to be due to the way that the ~1w power section works. The small-triode-based power amp has fundamentally different design requirements and constraints than the typical large-pentode-based (or beam tetrode) power sections in most guitar amplifiers. This limitation would not just apply to the GP/DI, but to any amplifier using a similar arrangement.
The fact is that an effects loop, in a traditional sense, wouldn't really work in the GP/DI. I wanted that feature, too, but when we were experimenting with it, there were simply too many compromises that had to be made to get it to work in a barely-satisfactory manner. The usual goal of an FX loop is to effect the signal post-gain, in order to keep the sound from getting muddy or indistinct from applying time-based effects to an input signal. The power section of the GP/DI is an integral part of the sound of the amp, and an FX loop would not be able to effectively serve this purpose - since the power amp would still be 'hit hard' by the sound of your delays or reverbs, and therefore still saturated, the loop would lose it's effectiveness.
Additionally, the "preamp out" of the GP/DI is a bit of a misnomer - it is actually the output of the LOAD stage, after the ~1w power amplifier. It simply bypasses the rest of the circuit ("Cab section" and the balancing circuitry) so that you can use it in a traditional pre-power-cab arrangement. It is not horribly dissimilar to the way the GP3 worked, but it has been significantly modified to make it both more effective and capable of operating as an independent amp.
As to being able to use the "Cab Section" independently of the rest of the GP/DI, that is also unfortunately not really feasible. It isn't really an "independent circuit" as such, but is actually dependent upon and interactive with the operation of the preceding stages. We can, and likely will, adapt the technology of the "Cab" into a more generalized product, but as it operates within the GP/DI, it is inseparable from the rest of the unit. That being said, the "preamp out" does bypass the "Cab", and there will likely be another way to bypass it in the shipping unit (so you can use computer/other cab sims, if you like).
I know it is tempting to think of something like the GP/DI as a bunch of independent, discreet sections, but that really isn't the case. The whole amplifier has been designed to work together - it is a complete system, not just a collection of features. However, we aren't infallible, and we may have forgotten something in the design. Please keep the feature suggestions coming!
Spaceboy":84m8x61l said:
If you want metal tones, get someone you know in LA to come help us out with them! It isn't that the GP/DI doesn't do them so much as that neither Steve nor I are capable of effectively playing in that kind of style. I know Fryette has a reputation as a "metal amp company", but believe it or not most of us really tend more towards classic rock and the cleaner end of things - I mean, I demo'd with a Gretsch and a Jazzmaster
!The little monster is capable of the same range of tones as the Deliverance or Pittbull series - they all come from the same DNA, after all!
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dirtyfunkg
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Paul, I've pledged. Is there going to be an easy way to rack mount this?
BackCrack
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Or...make a 1-space rackmount version...to mate up with the LXII.dirtyfunkg":3tj3akch said:
vchizzle
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Looks great, sounds great so far. If we see it can do the heavy stuff, I will be on board.
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Dented42ford
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dirtyfunkg":3igjan5k said:
Yes!
We designed the case to fit in 1/2 a rack space, 2U high. We will be offering ways to mount one or two of them in 2U very soon after the official release.
lowmantotempole":3igjan5k said:dirtyfunkg":3igjan5k said:
Ooooooooooooooooooooo...
Even better than that - it works PERFECTLY with the Axe-Fx.
There are multiple outputs - a tube DI, derived from the Valvulator I, the "amp out", and a "preamp out". What you can do with the GP/DI and the Axe is to run your guitar into the GP/DI, then take the "Direct Out" (which has NO controls - it is a unity gain DI) and feed that into Input 1 on the Axe-FX. In patches where you want to use the Axe's amp models, use input 1.
Then take either the Preamp or "Amp/Direct" out and feed that into Input 2 on the Axe. Now, you can use Input 2 as the "GP/DI" input, feeding it into the Axe's FX, cabs (if you prefer them to the "cab section"), and outputs. Just program a few patches using the GP/DI as the 'front end'!
In that arrangement you get all the benefits of both the Axe-FX and the GP/DI - you get a real tube front end, bringing some life to your Axe amp sounds, and you get a real tube amp to feed into patches where you don't want to use the emulation features. It's a win-win for Axe owners!
You can use it the same way with a POD HD, but unfortunately the Kemper doesn't have multiple inputs, so you're limited to either using the Amp or DI in this way.
BackCrack":3igjan5k said:Or...make a 1-space rackmount version...to mate up with the LXII.
But then it wouldn't fit in a gig bag!
vchizzle":3igjan5k said:
It WILL do the heavy stuff!
We just don't know how to PLAY the heavy stuff...
Know anyone in our neck of the woods who does?
Also, check out the new video we posted featuring our friend, session guitarist Joe Gamble:
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toddmogle
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get Page Hamilton to stop by the shop and test it. HE can play the heavy, and knows the Fryette tone.
or don't make me fly out there to test!!! hahaha jk
It WILL do the heavy stuff!
We just don't know how to PLAY the heavy stuff...
Know anyone in our neck of the woods who does?
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or don't make me fly out there to test!!! hahaha jk
vchizzle":2bvu706m said:
It WILL do the heavy stuff!
We just don't know how to PLAY the heavy stuff...
Know anyone in our neck of the woods who does?
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Kapo_Polenton
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Hilarious...
Just like the Randall thread where we kept asking "but can it do rock tones???" .. here we now have people asking right away whether or not it can do the brootz.
I would say it likely can get there but if it can't, buy a randall. If you want more plexi-ish low gain tones, consider this guy. It sounded pretty good with that strat on that first gain channel.
Just like the Randall thread where we kept asking "but can it do rock tones???" .. here we now have people asking right away whether or not it can do the brootz.
I would say it likely can get there but if it can't, buy a randall. If you want more plexi-ish low gain tones, consider this guy. It sounded pretty good with that strat on that first gain channel.
Shark Diver
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^ nice tones in there
Bob Savage
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Kapo_Polenton":2nwkz6fm said:
All amps must be all things to all people. It's written in the code.
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Bob Savage":17f2ucaa said:
Right, totally forgot about the code! Disregard my statement.. this better do the BROOTZ! and jazz! and Rock!
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mmolteratx
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Kapo_Polenton":3dwjn1k9 said:
To be fair, Fryette has been known for killer high gain sounds for a good while, and the Deliverance is one of the best ERG amps ever, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to wonder if this one also has those fun high gain sounds in it. I mean, I bought it because it should be useful, but if I can have a travel (t00bz!) recording set up that can pump out my metal tones for documenting musical ideas, I'd be even more stoked.
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GongStruck2Hard
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I am pledging! For 30% off, I need blood pressure pills after hearing the tones on this mini
brute.
brute.
maddnotez
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I think the metal community would prefer a fluff demo.
I changed my edit. I do see some humbuckers
I guess it was the who the hell am I intro that made it hard to watch for me.
I changed my edit. I do see some humbuckers
I guess it was the who the hell am I intro that made it hard to watch for me.
tubortski
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lowmantotempole":ugt78aqs said:
I vote for Page
