Speaker recommendation pls

[BigC]

Greetings all. First post here.

I've got a rock/metal rig that I'm putting together and I'd like a recommendation on a speaker that can compliment a v30.

I'm going to be running two heads, an Ibanez TN120 Thermion and a Mesa/Boogie .50 Caliber +. I've got two of the matching Ibanez Thermion cabs. One is stock with the original v30s, but the other is empty and I'm thinking that it might be a good opportunity to do some mixing and matching.

The cabs are wired for stereo so I could run two speakers in each cab of of each head, mixing the sound in the cabs, or I can give each head its own cab and go for a wider spread.

Also, I've got to select speakers for the empty cab. I used to have a .50 cal half stack back in the day with the C90/EV halfback cab and I really liked it, so I've considered a Boogie C90 to match with the .50 cal.

I've also considered just relocating the bottom two v30s from the full cab and just populating the top speakers in each cab to avoid being any more obnoxious than I need to be.

Any and all thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[BigC]

And FYI in case you hadn't figured it out yet, I'm a big Ibanez fanboy.

 

[JB6464]

WGS ET65 pair up great with V30 type speakers and they only cost $79 each .

 

[RJF]

A quad of G12K100's in an X pattern mixed with the V30's in both cabs. There is a good used quad of 100's in the classifieds section. Run each head into it's own cab, so that you can set your rig up to run in true stereo.

 

[Racerxrated]

V30/G12T75 X pattern. Sounds killer.

 

[Beyond Black]

V30/G12T75 X pattern. Sounds killer.

Yes it does. What sound are you after? If you want to chill out the mids of the V30's, the G12T75's are scooped and will do just that, while also giving you a little more chunk with palm muting that scooped tones give. If you're not after that, try mixing with Greenbacks. They'll give you a little sag to offset the tightness of the V30's. It's good enough for Friedman, and he knows a thing or two about tone.

 

[Racerxrated]

V30/G12T75 X pattern. Sounds killer.

Yes it does. What sound are you after? If you want to chill out the mids of the V30's, the G12T75's are scooped and will do just that, while also giving you a little more chunk with palm muting that scooped tones give. If you're not after that, try mixing with Greenbacks. They'll give you a little sag to offset the tightness of the V30's. It's good enough for Friedman, and he knows a thing or two about tone.

And if you do this, put the GBs on top....

 

[barnesjd]

My next major purchase is going to be a second amp head which will put me into a two halfstack situation like yours. What I plan to do is run my SLO clone with the V30s and my delay in the loop (the only effect I use) and dial it in to have a lot of mids and highs to shine and cut through the mix. The second head I'll run through my Greenback-loaded cab without any effects and accentuate the low-end and mids. If you've not tried metal with GBs, you gotta hear the roaring low-end they have! Never sounds woofy or sterile to my ears.

I used to have an X of V30s and K100s in one cab. I never loved that setup. There was still too much harsh upper mids for what I wanted to hear given the rest of my gear at the time. Not saying YOU won't like it, but just a data point. If you decide you want to try K100s, also be on the lookout for K85s. Exactly the same speaker. Celestion later determined they could handle 15 more watts, so they updated the model. The K85s are just older.

If you're willing to commit to having two separate cabs, I would lean towards not mixing within the cabs and having two differently-loaded cabs. I would especially feel this way if you go with Greenbacks. Even though it's popular to put two Greenbacks on top of two V30s like the Friedman cabs, the V30s are still quite a bit louder. Regardless of using GBs, if you load the cabs separately, you will always be able to dial up more of this speaker or that speaker because they're driven by two separate heads.

 

[blackba]

Mc90s or cl80s both mix well with v30s and are the same efficiency. G12t-75 and et-65 mix fine, but will not be as efficient.

 

[barnesjd]

Mc90s or cl80s both mix well with v30s and are the same efficiency. G12t-75 and et-65 mix fine, but will not be as efficient.

Note that this is the same point I was making regarding mixing Greenbacks with V30s. The more efficient a speaker, the louder it is given the same power.

 

[BigC]

Great ideas from all. Thanks very much.

I've got a Marshall 1960 w/ Celestion g12m-65 speakers, and two buddies have 1960s with greenbacks and gt75s so I'm going to play around with those and see what I like.

 

[glip22]

I like some of these combos but my #1 favorite is an X pattern with Heritage G12H 55hz cones. The cab just crunches allot better than with the G12T-75 mix an is less harsh up top with better clarity and more bite. The Heritage is a little mid scooped as well so it works great taming the 30. It's just a better combo. It has to be the Heritage, not the G12H-30

 

[barnesjd]

Great ideas from all. Thanks very much.

I've got a Marshall 1960 w/ Celestion g12m-65 speakers, and two buddies have 1960s with greenbacks and gt75s so I'm going to play around with those and see what I like.

Those G12M-65s are pretty close to Greenbacks based on what I've read. Supposedly they were designed to be Greenbacks with higher power handling. I'm always watching craigslist around here in hopes someone is letting go of a Marshall loaded with them.

 

[BigC]

I lucked out. I found my 1960a classic for $285 and the greenbacks had been changed out for the 65s. I wasn't familiar with them but they've sounded great with almost every head I've used them with. The one exception is my buddies late 70s JMP 2204 which really sounds best with 25watt greenbacks.