Splawn quickrod or EVH 5153 .... N why ?

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You could always order the new B version Splawn Quickrod which is supposed to be more spongier.
 
All the comments of people preferring the 5150 III, or putting it on the same level as Splawn is really neutering my GAS for a Nitro and feeling more confident that this little 50w might be all I need... for now, at least.
 
If u listen to the dark roots cd or formation or seen testament live. Eric sounded huge live loved thē tone of it. He says like a Mesa but better in an interview. I've owned splawns n played them n never got a tone I could live with. However splawner is telling me new quick rods are different. More gain/saturation on tap. I know they r quality. I know Scott is a terrific guy took me on a nice tour of his place. Wondering new splawn vs evh vs my Hagen. Hmmmm ?? Thats the question. If I could play one I know but I love to hear guys chime in that know what the fawk they r talking about here. Looking for honesty not bias reviews.
 
Spaceboy":2swwgupg said:
All the comments of people preferring the 5150 III, or putting it on the same level as Splawn is really neutering my GAS for a Nitro and feeling more confident that this little 50w might be all I need... for now, at least.
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As a Nitro owner I can say with all confidence that the EVH isn't in the same leage as the Splawn. The EVH has the Mesa Recto fizz thing going on whereas the Nitro is smooth, deep, and pissed.
 
The EVH has the Mesa Recto fizz thing going on whereas the Nitro is smooth said:
And hollow !

So evh does carry a recto vibe. That's what Eric Peterson said like Mesa but better.
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5153 and Recto fizz? If you turn the presence full up maybe.
I love the 5153, but seen Testament last week, and Eric's tone was like a viking god farting into a bullhorn chased by a cloud of wild bees.
 
Nitro for me was hollow n dry. Loud as hell w a lot of low end but dry. Not enuff saturation
 
cujo":2c4out4w said:
Nitro for me was hollow n dry. Loud as hell w a lot of low end but dry. Not enuff saturation
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That's strange. What year and what tubes?
Mine is a 2009 with Ruby EL34's. I run the gain at 11:00 and it's at almost as saturated as my old Mesa MarkIV. Maybe I got a magic one. :lol: :LOL:
 
4 diff ones 07 ,08,09, kt88 el34 kt77 6l6 6550. Various brands n various preamp tubes. Hey sometimes an amp just ain't for you. Ain't like I didn't try. Lol. None ever ripped like a Diezel. That might be a lot of my problem
 
I guess sometimes you just can't gel with an amp. What Diezel do you have?
 
quinnethan":331i9lti said:
You could always order the new B version Splawn Quickrod which is supposed to be more spongier.
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Whoa! Did not know this! Splawn gas building even more now.

I'm guessing the B version has a different transformer set possibly ??
 
I used Herbert for 8 years vh4 for 2 years and now I have Hagen.
 
I had a 5153 as my main amp for 2 years, and I owned 2 Splawn QR's.

First the latter. When I had my Splawn's, there was a lot of hype about them being the end-all marshall tone. My first one broke and I sent it back. My second one arrived with a busted headshell and I sold it within two weeks. In reality, it was just a boosted JCM 800 and I didn't like it at all.

The former, I had for 2 years. I loved channel 3, hated channel 2 (the one everyone likes) and thought channel 1 was mediocre at best. I wouldn't recommend either amp.

Have you thought of a Fryette or a SLO? I'd look at those two first.
 
cujo":oykuy498 said:
Nitro for me was hollow n dry. Loud as hell w a lot of low end but dry. Not enuff saturation
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I have an early Nitro. I agree that there was not enough saturation but boosted, it was awesome. I had a friend mod mine to give that boosted sound without the boost and I love mine. From what I understand, the newer models are much better in that regard.

I had a Quickrod a couple years ago. Really, really liked it but when I got the 5153, I felt like it did everything I wanted from the QR and more. I don't really hear the Mesa vibe from my 5153. It reminds me of the old 5150's but with a bigger, more modern saturated tone. The only complaints... I think the Splawn stuff cuts better in a band mix in comparison to the 5153's and many of the 5153's had some "issues" that required repair (I bought mine used and had to have some work done on it because it hummed pretty bad). That being said, I smile everytime I plug into my 5153 and absolutely love the amp (so much so that I bought the matching cab).
 
The cab sounded Absolutly huge. I thought ch 2 was great. They say not enuff gain but isn't that what ch3 is for ? Ch2 felt like nice tight rhythm playing very modded Marshall type tone. The amp felt easy to play it wasn't stiff where you have to fight it.

Splawn are well built have a unique tone. If there was more gain n sat on tap. And a better clean I'd be sold. I actually can't wait to hear splawner new quick rod when it gets here. We will see!
 
I owned a 2010 QR and I currently own a 6505+. I would play a 6505+ over my 2010 QR any day of the week. The Splawn is dry and noy enough saturation and really not a modern voiced amp. I have two Nitros that do modern stuff way better.

I am thinking about getting the 5153 50 watter also. I have played them. Splawns are funny amps. They dominate a mix and have low end/ mid clarity like no other amp. I love my splawns in a band mix. I just wish they were more saturated.
 
cujo":z9egwgk4 said:
The cab sounded Absolutly huge. I thought ch 2 was great. They say not enuff gain but isn't that what ch3 is for ? Ch2 felt like nice tight rhythm playing very modded Marshall type tone. The amp felt easy to play it wasn't stiff where you have to fight it.
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You pretty much summed it up. I have had the EVH 100w for 5 years now as my main amp (home and gigging). I also own the 50 watter. Unfortunately I have never owned a Splawn but was very close to purchasing one last year but couldn't justify it.

I really don't get the Mesa to EVH comparison. I do not like "fizzy" amps but love the EVH. Channel 3 has this fizz but you can dial it out at higher volumes. Channel 2 has a very nice top end. People that don't like channel 2 say this usually because there is a)not enough gain or b) it is too tight, all of which can be solved by adding a boost. My favorite town out of the amp is channel 2 boosted. Very Marshally with great mids (not "wierd" :D ). Channel 3 doesn't cut as well in a band mix but channel 2 cuts great. I think that for the brootz that "fizz" is needed (ala Peavey 5150's), hence the need for channel 3. For hard rock, 80's, or even classic rock, channel 2 shines (you can even get a tight brootz w/out the fizz by boosting channel 2). Lets not forget the very good clean channel. This amp does it all, very well.

With that said, I do like the tone of my 100watter a bit better than the 50watter. More headroom as expected (could it be due to the smaller transformers of the 50?). I also like the fx loop a little bit more on the 100w. I figured this is most likely because the 100w loop is tube while the 50w loop is solid state. I felt this way about the loops before I new this info. Also, no worry about the volume jump between channels 1 and 2 with the 100watter.

I run a midi switching set up (RJM mini amp gizmo) and my main preset is channel 2 of the 100w with a Maxon OD9 boosting. This gives me a tight high gain Marshall tone without too much saturation and high end fizz. I only switch to channel 3 for most leads.
 
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