still love my mojave peacemaker!

[joy23775]

hi..
the peacemaker is so simple and just punches my face every time.
such a great platform for clean to mean marshall plexi tones.

ultimately i'd probably have a two amp rig, peacemaker set for rock crunch and lead, and a carol ann for fendery clean, and for fat warm ej/bonomassa lead tones for that extra fine tuning
alladsclassified

 

[IndyWS6]

hi..
the peacemaker is so simple and just punches my face every time.
such a great platform for clean to mean marshall plexi tones.

ultimately i'd probably have a two amp rig, peacemaker set for rock crunch and lead, and a carol ann for fendery clean, and for fat warm ej/bonomassa lead tones for that extra fine tuning
alladsclassified

Great insight, bro...

 

[mentoneman]

i wish he'd design an amp that was like a pushed plexi45 rolled back on gtr vol for clean, and a cranked peacemaker for dirt, at humane volumes!

I always wished he would build an amp that sounded in everyone else's hands like it sounded in his clips in his hands.

he knows how to spank his children

Bah..... those Mojave's ended up in lots of great players hands and to a man, they all said the same thing. I never heard a clip from any of those guys that sounded as good as Vics clips sounded. Even Mark K who is a sick, sick player still had the same 90% of the way there sort of tone.

i know what you are saying and if i didn't hear him plug into a few different peacemakers now and get that sound i would be totally confused. but what could be happening is his guitar is just the winner. i wish you could have heard the day i was in his shop as a customer picked up a restored marshall.
customer walks in and tests the amp with his mcinturf and it's very dry boring uneventful marshall.

as the guy starts hemming and hawing about it, vic politely picks up his brown strat, plugs in, and it's furious brown TONE. the guy learned a quick lesson in tone.

could there be some electronic tweak in his gtr? maybe, but that could be the ONLY difference between his peacemaker tone and ours because he has plugged into 2 of my peacemakers over the years and done the same thing. if only his strat wasn't left handed i could tell you once and for all what i knew his guitar was doing to the tone and feel but alas...

 

[mentoneman]

hi..
the peacemaker is so simple and just punches my face every time.
such a great platform for clean to mean marshall plexi tones.

ultimately i'd probably have a two amp rig, peacemaker set for rock crunch and lead, and a carol ann for fendery clean, and for fat warm ej/bonomassa lead tones for that extra fine tuning
alladsclassified

what is that ad for?
do you have a peacemaker too?

 

[mentoneman]

the new helios clips are great, loved the goldfinger, and i love carol ann clean and lead tone,

but the peacemaker is so simple and just punches my face every time.
such a great platform for clean to mean marshall plexi tones.

ultimately i'd probably have a two amp rig, peacemaker set for rock crunch and lead, and a carol ann for fendery clean, and for fat warm ej/bonomassa lead tones for that extra fine tuning

but as it stands i set PM clean and get rock from plexitone pedal and fat leads from ethos so i'm emulating the two amp rig with pedals to great effect.

and it's the only amp i've ever owned that when playing live i couldn't believe the tone i was hearing coming from my rig was pretty much what i always imagined i wanted to hear.

any of you have that experience with your favorite amp?

My BE-100 does it for me. Gtr-amp-cab and I am there. Dials are all straight up except for gain and volume, it just has the sound.

peacemaker doesn't have nearly as much gain but when i played mark's friedman at the shop i heard the same core marshall sound i hear in the peacemaker.
personally i think i can get a better variety by setting the PM clean, then ramping up the gain with pedals du jour which in my case is vertex plexitone for vh type and an ethos overdrive for ej type and
arc furnace for srv type dirt.

 

[Anonymous]

i wish he'd design an amp that was like a pushed plexi45 rolled back on gtr vol for clean, and a cranked peacemaker for dirt, at humane volumes!

I always wished he would build an amp that sounded in everyone else's hands like it sounded in his clips in his hands.

he knows how to spank his children

Bah..... those Mojave's ended up in lots of great players hands and to a man, they all said the same thing. I never heard a clip from any of those guys that sounded as good as Vics clips sounded. Even Mark K who is a sick, sick player still had the same 90% of the way there sort of tone.

i know what you are saying and if i didn't hear him plug into a few different peacemakers now and get that sound i would be totally confused. but what could be happening is his guitar is just the winner. i wish you could have heard the day i was in his shop as a customer picked up a restored marshall.
customer walks in and tests the amp with his mcinturf and it's very dry boring uneventful marshall.

as the guy starts hemming and hawing about it, vic politely picks up his brown strat, plugs in, and it's furious brown TONE. the guy learned a quick lesson in tone.

could there be some electronic tweak in his gtr? maybe, but that could be the ONLY difference between his peacemaker tone and ours because he has plugged into 2 of my peacemakers over the years and done the same thing. if only his strat wasn't left handed i could tell you once and for all what i knew his guitar was doing to the tone and feel but alas...

Hey, you know I I bought Vic's mahogany body, mahogany neck white super strat he built with the Tom Holmes pickup and everything. Was supposed to be the right handed brother to Vic's lefty guitar. Still no dice and I could play the VH material reasonably well. I think it's just a case of Vic built that amp to exactly the minor tweaks that accentuate his playing ability and his touch and the thing just soars when he's playing it. Great amp, but as Chub says, in my hands it never sounded like Vic's vids or the numerous times I heard him play different PeaceMakers (including mine!) at his old location (although I tried to convince myself it did ). Great tones and I did some cool recordings I'm proud of with it, just not the same... even setup exactly the same W/D...

Steve

 

[mixohoytian]

^^^ LOL

I told Chubtone years ago...he better start practicing left handed....

 

[Chubtone]

While I LOVE the Peacemaker still because I love early, stock Marshalls, when I was a dealer, I never saw a product that disappointed more people once they heard it in their hands. The amount of quick re-sales and sour faces after the purchase of those amps was one of the main reasons I stopped selling them.

And I hear what you are saying Pat, but Vics hands can't be that much better than Mark's hands, Zach's hands, your hands, my hands, Steve's hands and this noob Hoyt's hands. I mean, all of us can play and yet we ALL have had the same experience with the Peacemaker.

If Vic's guitar was that magic, he needed to put it down and use something that mere mortals could get their hands on.

 

[Meathead]

Awesome you found your 'sound'
I get that feeling from a Peters Polaris combo that James built for me. It's not super gainy, but it's just right....perfect really, for me.
I also dig my Budda SD18 with a Weber Legacy speaker. It's a different flavor from the Peters, smoother, darker, but great for what it does and fullfills my needs on the other spectrum.
I will never sell these two amps.

all these years and i still havent heard a peters or a voodoo-- both id like to play one day

I think you'd dig the Peters I have. It's has a very brown type of sound even at lower volumes, it's all in the preamp design. I don't even feel the need for effects (delay/reverb) with it for it to sound and feel great.

I'd love to try a Peacemaker sometime....and from what I've read in this thread, I do think the guitar and the player matters a lot in getting an amp close to a particular sound, as well as the speaker/cab being used.
To think the amp can just 'do it all'...it's not really gonna happen.

 

[mentoneman]

While I LOVE the Peacemaker still because I love early, stock Marshalls, when I was a dealer, I never saw a product that disappointed more people once they heard it in their hands. The amount of quick re-sales and sour faces after the purchase of those amps was one of the main reasons I stopped selling them.

And I hear what you are saying Pat, but Vics hands can't be that much better than Mark's hands, Zach's hands, your hands, my hands, Steve's hands and this noob Hoyt's hands. I mean, all of us can play and yet we ALL have had the same experience with the Peacemaker.

If Vic's guitar was that magic, he needed to put it down and use something that mere mortals could get their hands on.

he actually said that once---that he almost felt like using his brown mahogany strat was unfair because it sounded so good

so on this clip he used his les paul straight into my modded PM the day i picked it up from him, recorded with my iphone much to his dismay, and it's not as blazing brown like his strat but still very great marshall tone--thick and woody--

and this guy seems to have worked around the guitar thing and he's even using the dreaded power scaling (gasp

and should anyone forget

i still say vic was the first to truly crack the code and if you didn't believe too you wouldn't have one. even eddie didn't have an amp that was van halen brown sound in a box. he loaded and echoplexed and phase 90ed to get there too.

 

[Zachman]

While I LOVE the Peacemaker still because I love early, stock Marshalls, when I was a dealer, I never saw a product that disappointed more people once they heard it in their hands. The amount of quick re-sales and sour faces after the purchase of those amps was one of the main reasons I stopped selling them.

And I hear what you are saying Pat, but Vics hands can't be that much better than Mark's hands, Zach's hands, your hands, my hands, Steve's hands and this noob Hoyt's hands. I mean, all of us can play and yet we ALL have had the same experience with the Peacemaker.

If Vic's guitar was that magic, he needed to put it down and use something that mere mortals could get their hands on.

he actually said that once---that he almost felt like using his brown mahogany strat was unfair because it sounded so good

so on this clip he used his les paul straight into my modded PM the day i picked it up from him, recorded with my iphone much to his dismay, and it's not as blazing brown like his strat but still very great marshall tone--thick and woody--

and this guy seems to have worked around the guitar thing and he's even using the dreaded power scaling (gasp

and should anyone forget

i still say vic was the first to truly crack the code and if you didn't believe too you wouldn't have one. even eddie didn't have an amp that was van halen brown sound in a box. he loaded and echoplexed and phase 90ed to get there too.

inside joke...

 

[mentoneman]

doughnuts!!!!

 

[Zachman]

doughnuts!!!!

 

[mentoneman]

brah when i need to laugh this one just never gets old

politically incorrect oh you betcha but i'll be darned if i can ever make it through this without truly laughing out loud.

 

[mentoneman]

necrobumping the truth!

 

[IndyWS6]

Bwahahaha

I apparently subscribed to this...

 

[sjk]

brah when i need to laugh this one just never gets old

politically incorrect oh you betcha but i'll be darned if i can ever make it through this without truly laughing out loud.

That is some funny shit, I just watched it 3 times and will probably watch it a few more times yet today!