Tell me about the Carvin Legacy!! Good metal tones?

[mchn13]

i'm sure with a boost and a little eq i could use it for brootz easily...

 

[napalmdeath]

What does an amp have to do w/ making you play more leads? Do or do not, there is no try.
And didn't we already have this thread?

Well, it's not a difficult thing to figure out..An amp with a more alive lead tone, would surely encourage one to practice more lead playing, no? My Triple XXX is more heavy, and brutal, so I spend 75% of my time, playing/writing chunky rhythms, rather than practicing scales/leads, and whatnot.

Not sure I follow you on stupid question #2.. Already have this thread?
I see you must have brought your juvenile behavior over from HC, no?

 

[herbertmark5]

engl fireball for lead

 

[sschultz242]

We've had a few of these roll through the store i work at. I really liked the lead tones and the cleans on it (which seems to be the consensus). I did have a problem dialing in a lead tone, until i experimented with different OD pedals. Got a great sound using a Keeley SD-1 as well as an OCD. This amp has a lot of bass. I had to keep the bass knob no higher then three or else it was way to much. It's rumored that Vai had this designed after an XTC, but i would have no idea if that's actually true. But for a $600 amp, it's pretty cool!

 

[napalmdeath]

https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=660402

this is a clip i did of john busbees legacy at our amp fest last year. no boost. i don't remember the settings, but most of the amps were at half on all the dials...

it's the fourth one on the list..

Sounds like it has more warmth/thump than even both the 6505 & 6505+ on the list. Could have been how it was EQ'd, IDK.

 

[Shask]

See, I want to become more of a lead player, and I think this amps will do it. I want a good, open lead tone, something that encourages me to concentrate on lead playing. Nice, thick, fluid leads TONE will motivate me. Get me off the heavy stuff, and become more of a player.

What does an amp have to do w/ making you play more leads? Do or do not, there is no try.

And didn't we already have this thread?

The amp will definitely effect how you play. I tend to play more lead type lines when I play my Mark III vs any of my other amps. It just has that natural smooth tone to it that begs to be played that way.

 

[John Busbee]

https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=660402

this is a clip i did of john busbees legacy at our amp fest last year. no boost. i don't remember the settings, but most of the amps were at half on all the dials...

it's the fourth one on the list..

Sounds like it has more warmth/thump than even both the 6505 & 6505+ on the list. Could have been how it was EQ'd, IDK.

I don't think Steve changed my eq...I leave it pretty much gain 1 or 2 oclock, mids 11 or 10, bass 3, pres 5, treb 5 (5 is max). These settings are with the master up about at Dail Setting 1 where the pt's are part of the tone. The cab was my Uber cab(for all the clips), but I leave the settings the same for the Legacy cab. I usually run the Legacy/Uber stacks at the same time.
With eqing/boosting, I can get about 90% of the same tones out of the Legacy that I can get with the Uber. I'm totally happy with my tone and the capabilities I have with my rig. okay, pic post fail...how? Photobucket isn't the same as it was last time.

 

[John Busbee]

 

[napalmdeath]

I don't think Steve changed my eq...I leave it pretty much gain 1 or 2 oclock, mids 11 or 10, bass 3, pres 5, treb 5 (5 is max). These settings are with the master up about at Dail Setting 1 where the pt's are part of the tone. The cab was my Uber cab(for all the clips), but I leave the settings the same for the Legacy cab. I usually run the Legacy/Uber stacks at the same time.
With eqing/boosting, I can get about 90% of the same tones out of the Legacy that I can get with the Uber. I'm totally happy with my tone and the capabilities I have with my rig. okay, pic post fail...how? Photobucket isn't the same as it was last time.

Wow, that's a pretty tall comparison. The amp intrigues me, especially since I can get a mint used one for $475. Much less than all the others on my radar. I just CAN'T try one!

 

[John Busbee]

I don't think Steve changed my eq...I leave it pretty much gain 1 or 2 oclock, mids 11 or 10, bass 3, pres 5, treb 5 (5 is max). These settings are with the master up about at Dail Setting 1 where the pt's are part of the tone. The cab was my Uber cab(for all the clips), but I leave the settings the same for the Legacy cab. I usually run the Legacy/Uber stacks at the same time.
With eqing/boosting, I can get about 90% of the same tones out of the Legacy that I can get with the Uber. I'm totally happy with my tone and the capabilities I have with my rig. okay, pic post fail...how? Photobucket isn't the same as it was last time.

Wow, that's a pretty tall comparison. The amp intrigues me, especially since I can get a mint used one for $475. Much less than all the others on my radar. I just CAN'T try one!

pretty true...I bought mine when they first came out. I have never even thought about trading it or getting rid of it. Like most amps, you can really change the tone by playing with pre tubes and parametric's in the loop. And that is without hitting the front with a boost. I like el34's, for what it's worth. I love this amp. If I could not have any other amp, this one could do anything I needed it to.


Something that almost made me cry...putting both channels clean and running a Krank Maximus Distortus. As brutal and compressed as you can stand, in a $100 pedal. One of those in front of a plexi/superbass and it would be over for brootz. And cheap.

I run a stock ,old, Tubescreamer, an Ibby Tubeking (old one), the Krank pedal, and a stock DS1 in front of the amps for different tones. Like I said, I can get any tone.

 

[napalmdeath]

pretty true...I bought mine when they first came out. I have never even thought about trading it or getting rid of it. Like most amps, you can really change the tone by playing with pre tubes and parametric's in the loop. And that is without hitting the front with a boost. I like el34's, for what it's worth. I love this amp. If I could not have any other amp, this one could do anything I needed it to.

Maybe you can answer this, since I've emailed Carvin a week ago, and have asked here, to no avail. Is this amp fixed bias, like the Mesas, or do I need a tech to bias after tube changes?

 

[John Busbee]

pretty true...I bought mine when they first came out. I have never even thought about trading it or getting rid of it. Like most amps, you can really change the tone by playing with pre tubes and parametric's in the loop. And that is without hitting the front with a boost. I like el34's, for what it's worth. I love this amp. If I could not have any other amp, this one could do anything I needed it to.

Maybe you can answer this, since I've emailed Carvin a week ago, and have asked here, to no avail. Is this amp fixed bias, like the Mesas, or do I need a tech to bias after tube changes?

I haven't messed with mine, haha...no external bias points, no.

 

[John Busbee]

if you want to get brootz out of this amp, listen to it first, tone wise. Swap a few pres to get what you like. I don't turn the gain all the way up, sometimes it gets too floppy (as does any amp), I have it around 7. Boost the front with whatever, tubescreamer, ds1, sd1, compressor....fine tune it in the loop (eq/comp)...you can gunk the walls down.

 

[napalmdeath]

if you want to get brootz out of this amp, listen to it first, tone wise. Swap a few pres to get what you like. I don't turn the gain all the way up, sometimes it gets too floppy (as does any amp), I have it around 7. Boost the front with whatever, tubescreamer, ds1, sd1, compressor....fine tune it in the loop (eq/comp)...you can gunk the walls down.

I've got an EQ, as well as a BBE Sonic Stomp, which REALLY tightens up bass, and adds punch. I've also got a TS9, and MXR Wylde OD. I'm tempted to snag that Legacy for $475 shipped!

 

[PlinytheWelder]

pretty true...I bought mine when they first came out. I have never even thought about trading it or getting rid of it. Like most amps, you can really change the tone by playing with pre tubes and parametric's in the loop. And that is without hitting the front with a boost. I like el34's, for what it's worth. I love this amp. If I could not have any other amp, this one could do anything I needed it to.

Maybe you can answer this, since I've emailed Carvin a week ago, and have asked here, to no avail. Is this amp fixed bias, like the Mesas, or do I need a tech to bias after tube changes?

The Legacy has adjustable bias like a Marshall, but with a switch for 6L6's or EL34's

 

[John Busbee]

if you want to get brootz out of this amp, listen to it first, tone wise. Swap a few pres to get what you like. I don't turn the gain all the way up, sometimes it gets too floppy (as does any amp), I have it around 7. Boost the front with whatever, tubescreamer, ds1, sd1, compressor....fine tune it in the loop (eq/comp)...you can gunk the walls down.

I've got an EQ, as well as a BBE Sonic Stomp, which REALLY tightens up bass, and adds punch. I've also got a TS9, and MXR Wylde OD. I'm tempted to snag that Legacy for $475 shipped!

that's a steal...I don't think you'll be disappointed, it's really versatile.

 

[Tawlks]

This is a video from my band (with the old singer and band name). I am using a Legacy on it. The rhythm tones are straight into the amp and the lead tones are boosted with an OCD.

I have a DSL now though and it's a much tighter and more aggressive amp. The Legacy is great for lead tones but like someone else said, a little too flubby for metal.

Not a bad amp at all, I'd own one again without hesitation. Very reliable too, more so than the DSL.

Wow dude, you've got some chops. Your band got any EP's I can get a hold of?

 

[napalmdeath]

The Legacy has adjustable bias like a Marshall, but with a switch for 6L6's or EL34's

I understand it's adjustable between EL34 & 6L6..Question is, is it fixed, or do I need a tech to bias it, once I swap tubes?

 

[Devin]

I understand it's adjustable between EL34 & 6L6..Question is, is it fixed, or do I need a tech to bias it, once I swap tubes?

Yes, the amp needs to have the bias adjusted internally each time you swap power tubes.

 

[napalmdeath]

I understand it's adjustable between EL34 & 6L6..Question is, is it fixed, or do I need a tech to bias it, once I swap tubes?

Yes, the amp needs to have the bias adjusted internally each time you swap power tubes.

Figured as much...Probably can do it myself, with a probe, however.