Tell me about the Fryette Deliverance

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bananaladonpcp":3pa06e61 said:
dry tone sounding not effect wise..... and if you cant get a herbert to cut through you dont know how to eq a band.

-Alex
Ya! I've always thought it a bit odd when people talk about the Herbert not cutting through. If you have a 180 watt amp, and you can't be heard, it's gotta be the amps fault. :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
 
I didn't say the Herbie didn't cut....I said it didn't cut as good as the vht. True statement I assure you
 
i have the d60. it is drier than the Mesa Roadster I had, no doubt, but not as dry as I thought it would be from forum rumors. but it doesnt matter, it sounds SO MUCH better than a Mesa, imo. The Roadster had 4 channels with 3 modes per channel, two rectifier modes per channel, two wattage levels per channel, and two overall modes, and I could never find a sound I liked. The VHT, on the other hand, has one channel, with basic eq, poweramp eq, and two gain modes, and almost every setting on it sounds great. the single channel thing doesnt matter unless you are playing stop/start clean/dirty stuff. you can set the amp to high gain and get really great sounding cleans with the knob. in fact, you can almost control the whole amp with your guitar knobs and the way you play. very articulate, very reactive to your playing style and pick attack. and yes, very loud for a 60. not a good bedroom amp. it has a whole lot of cut without being piercing or shrill. great cleans, marshall-eque crunch, or modern metal, depending on how you set it, imo. you can every single dial on the amp to noon and have a killer tone immediately. but yeah, it will force you to play better. i can set the gain all the way up, using high output active pups, in drop tuning, and still hear all the individual notes in a chord, still hear the angle my pick meets the strings, still hear how i fretted the note, still hear what a vibrating string sounds like. but it sounds HUGE. with my Mills cab, with the bass on 11 oclock and the depth on noon, thing punches you in the chest hard with bass. very open and organic sounding compared to engl's or a herbert.

in short, GET ONE
 
Yeah, ^^^ My UL needs new tubes I think. It gives me that same lowend gut punch, but that's with the bass at 2 'o clock and resonance at 4 'o clock. (6L6's but only tuned 1/2 step down too)
Gotta throw some KT88's in there.
 
JackBootedThug":1japisjb said:
Spaceboy":1japisjb said:
Will the dryness put off someone from a 5150/Rectifier background? Will is clean up considerably even on higher gain settings with use of the guitar's volume knob?

did with me,not sure about it cleaning up. i cant stand the "dry" sounding saturation, ala-VHT. i much prefer the "wet" and "hairy" mesa sound. I'm not a good enough player to use vht's.
Yeah, I'm still bonding with my UL after mainly using my mega compressed and saturated JSX, 6505 and Recto.
I like the honest feel of the VHT though, and I like having to work and push my playing with it. When I want that gooey, hairy goodness I use on of my other more saturated amps. I can still squeeze out some saturation with the UL, but you have to fight for it. Makes you better in the end I think.
 
D-Rock":1uf6vrvh said:
Yeah, ^^^ My UL needs new tubes I think. It gives me that same lowend gut punch, but that's with the bass at 2 'o clock and resonance at 4 'o clock. (6L6's but only tuned 1/2 step down too)
Gotta throw some KT88's in there.


Yup. Gold lion kt88's and tuned to b standard.
 
colimofsmoke":3394msmp said:
D-Rock":3394msmp said:
Yeah, ^^^ My UL needs new tubes I think. It gives me that same lowend gut punch, but that's with the bass at 2 'o clock and resonance at 4 'o clock. (6L6's but only tuned 1/2 step down too)
Gotta throw some KT88's in there.


Yup. Gold lion kt88's and tuned to b standard.
So that likely leads to your conservative lowend settings then. I may be fine afterall.
 
Didn't see it in here so....

All VHT/Fryette record extremely well.
 
This amp sounds perfect on paper, the dryness comments are a slight concern coming from 5150s and Rectifiers, but I'll translate that to tightness which would be a huge plus. But... oddly enough, I've not heard many clips that wow me. There's wayyyy more awful demos than good ones, and there's not many that give a good feel for anything other than high gain or very clean. It might just be one of those amps I will have to buy somewhat blind and try myself. I've told myself no more amp purchases 'til January though... yeah, right LOL

Have any notable albums been recorded with a Deliverance?
 
The last Anthrax has a lot of Deliverance on it. But is mixed often with Fryette Sig X, UL & a JCM800 that was modified by Fryette .
 
Winged C power tubes sound supreme in this amplifier (D60)
 
I made a couple of videos comparing my D60 to my 6505 212 combo. Theyll at least give you an idea of what to expect in terms of saturation. If thats your concern, throw it out the window. Im a 5150 guy, and the D60 had plenty of saturation for me. Looks like I start with the deliverance, and you can see the changes in the videos. These were recorded with a zoom Q3 through my ear candy buzzbomb 212 cab with eminence legend M12s in it. I liked the 6505 212 better, mainly the low end response was the thing that broke the D60 for me...it wasnt as tight or put together in the low end as the 6505 212....I owned the D60 for a week. It was a cool amp, and I loved the idea of a single channel amp, but the 6505 was just a better sound to me, overall. I think I dialed them in to have basically the same tone, but in terms of feel and the core characteristics of the amps, I like the 6505 better. I fully planned to sell that 212 once I got the D60, but that didnt happen.



 
D-Rock":r2bc6uhv said:
colimofsmoke":r2bc6uhv said:
D-Rock":r2bc6uhv said:
Yeah, ^^^ My UL needs new tubes I think. It gives me that same lowend gut punch, but that's with the bass at 2 'o clock and resonance at 4 'o clock. (6L6's but only tuned 1/2 step down too)
Gotta throw some KT88's in there.


Yup. Gold lion kt88's and tuned to b standard.
So that likely leads to your conservative lowend settings then. I may be fine afterall.

yeah, i find that playing in B makes things flub out quick. the VHT is better than that the Mesa in that regard. want to try some BKP ceramic warpigs, which are supposed to be super tight in the bass department.

maddnotez":r2bc6uhv said:
Didn't see it in here so....

All VHT/Fryette record extremely well.

yes, i forgot to mention that. it records EXTREMELY well. I had to post-eq the hell out of my Dual Rec to get it to sound half as good as the VHT does with no post-eq at all.

Spaceboy":r2bc6uhv said:
This amp sounds perfect on paper, the dryness comments are a slight concern coming from 5150s and Rectifiers, but I'll translate that to tightness which would be a huge plus. But... oddly enough, I've not heard many clips that wow me. There's wayyyy more awful demos than good ones, and there's not many that give a good feel for anything other than high gain or very clean. It might just be one of those amps I will have to buy somewhat blind and try myself. I've told myself no more amp purchases 'til January though... yeah, right LOL

Have any notable albums been recorded with a Deliverance?

I wouldnt worry too much about the dryness. those comments bothered me before I got mine as well, but as many other people have said on RT about Fryettes, you may have to work a little harder with your playing, but the returns are completely worth it. and yes, it does translate to tightness.

i also wouldn't sweat a lack of good clips. e.g. I have yet to hear a good Herbert or Rhodes Colossus clip, and I KNOW from my personal experience playing those amps that they slay hard. besides, if Ola demos it, it'll just sound like a Fortin Natas or DAR FBM anyway ;)
 
I went from a 6505+ to a VHT Pitbull and never looked back. I do miss the Peavey but ill never sell the VHT.
 
racerevlon":3052o0z1 said:
I played a D60 with a FatBottom 2x12.

Awesome
LOUD
Modern at lower volumes, becomes more "Marshall-y" as you crank it.
Cleans up nicely with volume rolled down... No issues with it being single-channel.
LOUD
LOUD

Only downside is no loop, which only matters if you use FX.

LOUD

:lol: :LOL:
 
Bumping this thread.

I've had my D120 for sometime now. I had a Sig: X - great amp, but I underused it's channels cause these amp's are so touch responsive.

Currently have a D120 and Fatbottom Slant 4x12. I'm still finding new tones/trying to find the settings that best suit clean to metal playing.

Is anyone using a boost and the Less mode versus just the More mode?

I'm thinking of modding my D120 and adding an external jack/footswitch that chooses the More/Less, but I'd be fine using just the Less setting if I can find a Boost that will be as effective as having the amp in the More setting.

I built an Xotic RC booster but it's not really what I want, I find it takes away from the fullness of the amp, even when boosting it.

I'd either like a good boost that can kick the amp into high-gain/ good palm-muting riffage, in the Less mode, or I'm gonna mod the amp.
 
I had a D60 and a D120. Both killer amazing amps. When I had to have a clean channel I switched to less mode, dialed my guitar volume back for clean and used a Joyo Ultimate drive as a boost back to heavier gain. But I thought that the amp sounded better on more mode au natural.. :rock:
 
Just get a more/less foot switch.... ......You can always add a pedal for drive after that.
 
Faldoe":1cy51vsc said:
I'd either like a good boost that can kick the amp into high-gain/ good palm-muting riffage, in the Less mode, or I'm gonna mod the amp.

Try a suhr koko(i have the old version) and use the green mode on the pedal. The Deliverance loves it and sounds as thick as without pedals, but way better!
 
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