TGP "hype machine" - contrived and intentional?

[Zachman]

The cork sniffing that goes on in there is insane. The same as their FB gear page. It's strymon this, strymon that and packed full of fucking pedals that look like they were made by some dude in a garage somewhere. The focus on stupid retro gear is mind numbing. I lasted a couple weeks in there.

 

[stephen sawall]

All of the forums become hype machines sooner or later. This one & tgp are completely hype. Who cares ? I take for granted that most people know this and understand it.

 

[petejt]

Anyone ever get the feeling that TGP is nothing more than a forum that's dedicated towards hyping up boutique companies for the sole purpose of increasing profits for certain boutiques? It sure seems that way at times.

Also, I just did a search on whether or not JHS is a true cloner like Freekish Blues was. It's odd how TGP went about censoring things.

That's pretty much it.

 

['63-Strat]

I think it's pretty clear when guys are full of shit in the long run. Makes for some good entertainment though.

 

[Deleted member 21375]

 

[J-Rodger]

TGP is great for getting banned for speaking your mind.

Unless you're a cowering pussy and remain censored by Mike the dick.

 

[eco70777]

I always chuckle at these threads. I know most of the TGP admins, mods, etc. I have a very uneasy relationship with Scott Peterson, and one other mod. Big Mike does question people's loyalties, affiliations and posts. Why? Cuz he's asked to by the admins.

I've been banned there (or given a timeout for two weeks) on three occassions now. Seems I can't let BS fly without calling people on it. I've learned not to think I can have "free speech" there, just as you can't on any forum that has "rules". Some of you forgot you agreed to those when you signed up.

Personal attacks about people's looks? Oh well, you get there when you run out of valid reasons to debate someone, you've lost the argument and it's all you have to fall back on now that you've been proven to have no facts/logic to your argument. Oh well, learn to stop arguing a point you can't win before you start arguing it.

Hype machine...ok...here you get the "fan boi" phenomena. You also have "shills", company employees masquerading as end users posting reviews, etc, etc. That happens on every forum. TGP just has the biggest user base (over 140k now?) if I'm not mistaken.

The recent pedal builders threads, exposee's and inquisitions as to whether they're "cloners" or not has been with some merit. You gotta thank Mike Landau for making an "open letter" statement. Not many have the integrity to do that.

Paid advertising subsidizing moderator shills that are unpaid? LOL It's $50 per year for a Gold Membership to support the server fees and be a manufacturer who can post ads/sales. I don't think shills work that cheap. You do get a bigger PM box (which I don't use) and an avatar pic. Big whoopee!

I pay more to have a banner at HRI, MetroAmp forum, and in Vintage Guitar than TGP.

Granted, I have seen some past issues with "Strat makers" (D'Pergo? and Suhr getting into it.The Suhr employee was fired). D'Pergo sued the TGP over the illegal use of shilling clients via PM from other manufacturers. Even though they didn't do it, they paid the price of having a PM system that allowed it to happen. That's why they now have a legal team, and stricter posting guidelines, too. You also don't get to post whatever slander, defamation and libel you want without PROOF. Heresay don't fly anymore, that's why some more outspoken members are banned, not only there, but here and at HRI as well. These leopards don't change their spots, they just change forums till they're caught doing it again.

I've certainly had my share of defending my products there (and here as well as other forums) from others who have their personal agendas, and either don't have proof, provide contrived pics as evidence, or use vague references to "what I bought from you sucked!". Yet when I called them out on it, they have no receipt for payment or paypal account in my records on file to prove they actually owned it to back up their statements. There's one sick guy here who falls under that category.

This kind of stuff is not TGP only, it's all over the net. Take it with a grain of salt. Realize some of these posters have an agenda...whether it's because they are just effed up in the head, or talked themselves into a piece of gear based on their friends recommendations. None of you should do that. All of you should try gear before you buy it. Learn to do your due diligence. Step up and do the right thing when buying gear, or shut up about your mistakes. It wasn't the manufacturer's fault you deluded or fantasized yourself being Hendrix just cuz you got some gear that was close to what he used.

Easy rule of thumb for most of the posters who have negative posts/experiences...ask them to prove it with something that would hold up in a court of law, documentation, etc. 99.9% of them will get shot down right then & there. It's no different than gossip you hear at a party. Either you're a gossip without proof believer, or you're not.

As for those who give others shit about what they can buy they can't afford due to having a bigger credit line or salary...so fucking what? I've seen Steve K and rockinchippy get haranged by members for being able to buy whatever they want. What is that? Jealousy, disbelief, anger, or gear envy? Whatever it is, get over it already. Stop opening up their threads when they post if you don't want to be made jealous of their latest purchase. I don't open their threads because the gear they're buying doesn't interest me (for the most part) since I have all the gear I need, and then some. Yes, I have pics to prove it, they've been posted here before.

If it does interest you and you can't stop your finger from clicking the mouse on their thread....well, then you have no self control and maybe you should stop clicking on their new gear threads and typing on threads like this where you bitch about it. Jeez, be a man about it, use some common sense, and keep your mouth shut. You whine like Steve and Alex owe you their gear cuz you're jealous.

Go get another job, buy what you want or STFU already. You can't blame people for working and buying the gear they want. I don't, neither should you.

And now it's time for more of my ulcer medicine. Jeezus, these types of threads really aggravate it.

Made me think of this: AWESOME!!!

except for your 1st quote, the other two are so stupid they borderline ignorance.

i still have to laugh, hehehehhe

 

[eco70777]

The cork sniffing that goes on in there is insane. The same as their FB gear page. It's strymon this, strymon that and packed full of fucking pedals that look like they were made by some dude in a garage somewhere. The focus on stupid retro gear is mind numbing. I lasted a couple weeks in there.

you have to understand am the youngest guy there and i am hitting 90

 

[Zachman]

I always chuckle at these threads. I know most of the TGP admins, mods, etc. I have a very uneasy relationship with Scott Peterson, and one other mod. Big Mike does question people's loyalties, affiliations and posts. Why? Cuz he's asked to by the admins.

I've been banned there (or given a timeout for two weeks) on three occassions now. Seems I can't let BS fly without calling people on it. I've learned not to think I can have "free speech" there, just as you can't on any forum that has "rules". Some of you forgot you agreed to those when you signed up.

Personal attacks about people's looks? Oh well, you get there when you run out of valid reasons to debate someone, you've lost the argument and it's all you have to fall back on now that you've been proven to have no facts/logic to your argument. Oh well, learn to stop arguing a point you can't win before you start arguing it.

Hype machine...ok...here you get the "fan boi" phenomena. You also have "shills", company employees masquerading as end users posting reviews, etc, etc. That happens on every forum. TGP just has the biggest user base (over 140k now?) if I'm not mistaken.

The recent pedal builders threads, exposee's and inquisitions as to whether they're "cloners" or not has been with some merit. You gotta thank Mike Landau for making an "open letter" statement. Not many have the integrity to do that.

Paid advertising subsidizing moderator shills that are unpaid? LOL It's $50 per year for a Gold Membership to support the server fees and be a manufacturer who can post ads/sales. I don't think shills work that cheap. You do get a bigger PM box (which I don't use) and an avatar pic. Big whoopee!

I pay more to have a banner at HRI, MetroAmp forum, and in Vintage Guitar than TGP.

Granted, I have seen some past issues with "Strat makers" (D'Pergo? and Suhr getting into it.The Suhr employee was fired). D'Pergo sued the TGP over the illegal use of shilling clients via PM from other manufacturers. Even though they didn't do it, they paid the price of having a PM system that allowed it to happen. That's why they now have a legal team, and stricter posting guidelines, too. You also don't get to post whatever slander, defamation and libel you want without PROOF. Heresay don't fly anymore, that's why some more outspoken members are banned, not only there, but here and at HRI as well. These leopards don't change their spots, they just change forums till they're caught doing it again.

I've certainly had my share of defending my products there (and here as well as other forums) from others who have their personal agendas, and either don't have proof, provide contrived pics as evidence, or use vague references to "what I bought from you sucked!". Yet when I called them out on it, they have no receipt for payment or paypal account in my records on file to prove they actually owned it to back up their statements. There's one sick guy here who falls under that category.

This kind of stuff is not TGP only, it's all over the net. Take it with a grain of salt. Realize some of these posters have an agenda...whether it's because they are just effed up in the head, or talked themselves into a piece of gear based on their friends recommendations. None of you should do that. All of you should try gear before you buy it. Learn to do your due diligence. Step up and do the right thing when buying gear, or shut up about your mistakes. It wasn't the manufacturer's fault you deluded or fantasized yourself being Hendrix just cuz you got some gear that was close to what he used.

Easy rule of thumb for most of the posters who have negative posts/experiences...ask them to prove it with something that would hold up in a court of law, documentation, etc. 99.9% of them will get shot down right then & there. It's no different than gossip you hear at a party. Either you're a gossip without proof believer, or you're not.

As for those who give others shit about what they can buy they can't afford due to having a bigger credit line or salary...so fucking what? I've seen Steve K and rockinchippy get haranged by members for being able to buy whatever they want. What is that? Jealousy, disbelief, anger, or gear envy? Whatever it is, get over it already. Stop opening up their threads when they post if you don't want to be made jealous of their latest purchase. I don't open their threads because the gear they're buying doesn't interest me (for the most part) since I have all the gear I need, and then some. Yes, I have pics to prove it, they've been posted here before.

If it does interest you and you can't stop your finger from clicking the mouse on their thread....well, then you have no self control and maybe you should stop clicking on their new gear threads and typing on threads like this where you bitch about it. Jeez, be a man about it, use some common sense, and keep your mouth shut. You whine like Steve and Alex owe you their gear cuz you're jealous.

Go get another job, buy what you want or STFU already. You can't blame people for working and buying the gear they want. I don't, neither should you.

And now it's time for more of my ulcer medicine. Jeezus, these types of threads really aggravate it.

Made me think of this: AWESOME!!!

except for your 1st quote, the other two are so stupid they borderline ignorance.

i still have to laugh, hehehehhe

No worries

 

[thiswaythatway]

And all of this because I called a few John Mayer songs 4 minutes of pop turd.

Regarding your recent post at The Gear Page
Dear Droptopandy,

This email is being sent to let you know that the following post on The Gear Page was noticed by a moderator because of Rule #2: No posting flame bait.

Please express your dislike for something in a more civil fashion.
The board owners have requested there be no bashing of musicians on TGP

Thanks
Mike
Mod Team

 

[tubortski]

Damn, you get an email about that.... serious..

 

[hippietim]

And all of this because I called a few John Mayer songs 4 minutes of pop turd.

Regarding your recent post at The Gear Page
Dear Droptopandy,

This email is being sent to let you know that the following post on The Gear Page was noticed by a moderator because of Rule #2: No posting flame bait.

Please express your dislike for something in a more civil fashion.
The board owners have requested there be no bashing of musicians on TGP

Thanks
Mike
Mod Team

You should complain about the thread that's going on there right now about Charles Manson. They're saying much worse things about good ole Chuck.

 

[J-Rodger]

I've dealt with Scott Peterson directly and spoken with him on a number of occasions - he's actually a pretty damn nice guy.

TGP is a like every other large community of folks except it's the anonymous Internet so people display a bunch of extra bravado that they wouldn't otherwise demonstrate in person (like some of the comments in this thread).

Personally, I would hate to be an admin at TGP or any other large forum that is predominantly filled with men that have sensitive egos that need to be stroked. Seriously, being an admin on TGP has got to suck balls. No matter what you say or do, someone is going to give you shit about it just because they can.

Yeah , im sure the TGP mods have trouble sleeping at nite and feel bad about sending someone to internet purgatory because they posted a pic of vagina instead of John Mayer in a thong or badmouthed a Dumble.