This is what burns my ass in regards to the axe-fx zealots.

[ejecta]

For guys that have not tried one, you may like it, it may even bring tears to your eyes.

"I find this box utterly inspiring to the point of tears sometimes; investigating the subtleties of 6.0 has really taken me right back there again. Touch sensitivity and player feedback is on another level for me and I can't wait to tear away from life and find a few minutes to dig the tone and feel I get from it."



I swear with some of these posts I think I've accidently gone to a forum that I go to for the 3D software I use. With every new upgrade to the software there are post after post like this on how much better everything is. With all this software upgrade talk in an amp forum I feel like George Castanza where two worlds are colliding.

 

[Anonymous]

I needed a cover tune rig so I went out and bought a cheap used Line6 vetta head..it sounds decent enough..

I thought I was going to program a bunch of patches for every song..but ended up with he usual - clean , crunch, dirty and a lead tone

other than that I have an Edge /U2 patch and an Andy summers patch...

stuff I can do with one of my heads and 3 pedals!

so for now the axe-fx isnt on my radar at all...

 

[Shiny_Surface]

I find this box utterly inspiring to the point of tears sometimes; investigating the subtleties of 6.0 has really taken me right back there again. Touch sensitivity and player feedback is on another level for me and I can't wait to tear away from life and find a few minutes to dig the tone and feel I get from it."

I knew as soon as I read that it was Scott Peterson!

 

[ratter]

For guys that have not tried one, you may like it, it may even bring tears to your eyes.

"I find this box utterly inspiring to the point of tears sometimes; investigating the subtleties of 6.0 has really taken me right back there again. Touch sensitivity and player feedback is on another level for me and I can't wait to tear away from life and find a few minutes to dig the tone and feel I get from it."



I swear with some of these posts I think I've accidently gone to a forum that I go to for the 3D software I use. With every new upgrade to the software there are post after post like this on how much better everything is. With all this software upgrade talk in an amp forum I feel like George Castanza where two worlds are colliding.

And see that's the problem. The input sensitivity is on another level from the POD. But when somebody puts it like that, it's just annoying and actually counter-productive. I wonder if Cliff is thinking 'please just shut up...'

 

[Digital Jams]

For guys that have not tried one, you may like it, it may even bring tears to your eyes.

"I find this box utterly inspiring to the point of tears sometimes; investigating the subtleties of 6.0 has really taken me right back there again. Touch sensitivity and player feedback is on another level for me and I can't wait to tear away from life and find a few minutes to dig the tone and feel I get from it."

The limp wristed dweeb that wrote that should have a good old head cutting done by Jack Butler playing a Hondo and Marshall MG combo while being witnessed by his fanboi club.

 

[ratter]

And see that's the problem. The input sensitivity is on another level from the POD. But when somebody puts it like that, it's just annoying and actually counter-productive. I wonder if Cliff is thinking 'please just shut up...'

For the most part, it also seems to be the same people over and over praising new products.

Well yeah. If you search TGP, you'll find the same dude created basically the exact same brouhaha for the POD, a Germino, a Spider Valve, etc...

 

[Digital Jams]

"I've often thought of becoming a golf club"

A donut with out a hole...............is a danish.

 

[ejecta]

I find this box utterly inspiring to the point of tears sometimes; investigating the subtleties of 6.0 has really taken me right back there again. Touch sensitivity and player feedback is on another level for me and I can't wait to tear away from life and find a few minutes to dig the tone and feel I get from it."

I knew as soon as I read that it was Scott Peterson!

I dont know who you are talking about. I didnt want to post who it was. In reality to each his own and I'm glad this guy likes his gear but would not have put it that way. I posted it as I think makes Digital's point and I thought it was rather funny.

 

[Gainfreak]

And see that's the problem. The input sensitivity is on another level from the POD. But when somebody puts it like that, it's just annoying and actually counter-productive. I wonder if Cliff is thinking 'please just shut up...'

For the most part, it also seems to be the same people over and over praising new products.

Well I praise a lot of things but I only praise what I like and that's it......Plus my opinion on the gear that I have praised has not changed!! At least I am consistent!!

I still love the Diezel Herbert,Camerons, Boogie Mark series,Marshall JVM, AXE-Trak,EarCandy Cabs,Port City cabs,Red Iron amps T-rex and the AXE-FX!

 

[Shiny_Surface]

I dont know who you are talking about. I didnt want to post who it was. In reality to each his own and I'm glad this guy likes his gear but would not have put it that way. I posted it as I think makes Digital's point and I thought it was rather funny.

It did

 

[stratotone]

I never understood the 'well, hound dog blind boy lemonhead jefferson in the latest guitar player uses a silvertone guitar with three strings into a pignose, so that's all you need' mentality either.

I'm not wanting to bash people over the head with the axe in a snobbery way - hell, I have more expensive gear than that I could use for tube snob purposes - but I actually DO get excited sometimes about what the thing can do, and when any of us get excited about gear there is an inclination to share. I dialled in a sweet plexi tone last night, and could roll the volume back like a real amp and got great cleans. However, it was going into my KRK 8's and like Thump said, it reminded me of being in a control room with a 50' cord while your amp is blasting in the main room. Was still cool.

Sure, most live bands don't need 45 different patches. But another thing I dig about the axe is that I can set up different effects and/or two amps at once without worrying about ground loops, hiss, etc. I can setup and tear down in 5 minutes, and my entire rig fits in the back of my Mazdaspeed 3 - 4 space rack with Axe, furman and wireless, midi footswitch (powered from the axe) and a QSC powered monitor.

 

[ejecta]

Im guilty of buying the latest greatest and posted a few honeymoon reviews in my time to alter on sell it. That said I've learned a lot about what I like and dont from going through those amps. All in all I tried to be objective in my thoughts and tried to not go on and on about a particular amp of the day. Whether I succeeded or not I guess is up for debate.

 

[70strathead]

And see that's the problem. The input sensitivity is on another level from the POD. But when somebody puts it like that, it's just annoying and actually counter-productive. I wonder if Cliff is thinking 'please just shut up...'

For the most part, it also seems to be the same people over and over praising new products.

Well I praise a lot of things but I only praise what I like and that's it......Plus my opinion on the gear that I have praised has not changed!! At least I am consistent!!

I still love the Diezel Herbert,Camerons, Boogie Mark series,Marshall JVM, AXE-Trak,EarCandy Cabs,Port City cabs,Red Iron amps T-rex and the AXE-FX!

speaking of the JVM, i just played it for the first time ( a combo version) the other day, at nice low volume with my YJM strat and no pedals...either the room i was in sounded acoustically rich and enhanced it, who knows, but it sounded great! now im starting to think about just getting a combo to do small gigs and just have as home practicicng amp and be done with it.

 

[Gainfreak]

Im guilty of buying the latest greatest and posted a few honeymoon reviews in my time to alter on sell it. That said I've learned a lot about what I like and dont from going through those amps. All in all I tried to be objective in my thoughts and tried to not go on and on about a particular amp of the day. Whether I succeeded or not I guess is up for debate.

Well that's just part of the learning process but you aren't a HUGE culprit that raves about a piece of gear only to sell ita bit later on. You might of done it a few times but there are guys who do this ALL the time.

 

[Gainfreak]

speaking of the JVM, i just played it for the first time ( a combo version) the other day, at nice low volume with my YJM strat and no pedals...either the room i was in sounded acoustically rich and enhanced it, who knows, but it sounded great! now im starting to think about just getting a combo to do small gigs and just have as home practicicng amp and be done with it.

I think the JVM is a great amp and I can see it killing with a YJM strat for sure. That amp takes a lot of heat but I think for what it does, it does it well and there are a lot of tones in that thing. With that said, Im not fond of the new pricetag though!

 

[ejecta]

Sure, most live bands don't need 45 different patches. But another thing I dig about the axe is that I can set up different effects and/or two amps at once without worrying about ground loops, hiss, etc. I can setup and tear down in 5 minutes, and my entire rig fits in the back of my Mazdaspeed 3 - 4 space rack with Axe, furman and wireless, midi footswitch (powered from the axe) and a QSC powered monitor.

Ive said all along that if I were in multiple gigging bands ahd the money to not have to sell an amp to try, I would probably check out the Axe and see if it worked for me. On paper what you posted would be a big draw for me as long as it worked live. That said, with my Bogner head and 2x12, my pedal board with the M13... I can get set up very quickly with no hums and I can get all that in the trunk of my Accord.

Funny story.... from when I was about 27 till about age 29 I gigged in an orginal hard rock band in Nashville and I used to have a new model VW bug that I used to haul around a Boogie Tremoverb head and a Rivera 2x12 that had the built in sub so it was the size of a 4x12 and my pedal board and two guitars. Im a big dude at 6'2" so me piling out of that thing with a half stack must have looked like a circus.

 

[Digital Jams]

speaking of the JVM, i just played it for the first time ( a combo version) the other day, at nice low volume with my YJM strat and no pedals...either the room i was in sounded acoustically rich and enhanced it, who knows, but it sounded great! now im starting to think about just getting a combo to do small gigs and just have as home practicicng amp and be done with it.

I think the JVM is a great amp and I can see it killing with a YJM strat for sure. That amp takes a lot of heat but I think for what it does, it does it well and there are a lot of tones in that thing. With that said, Im not fond of the new pricetag though!

Yeah that price is not good as IMO once you pass $2000 I expect fly leads from the pots, better pcb, etc.....regardless of tone.

 

[70strathead]

speaking of the JVM, i just played it for the first time ( a combo version) the other day, at nice low volume with my YJM strat and no pedals...either the room i was in sounded acoustically rich and enhanced it, who knows, but it sounded great! now im starting to think about just getting a combo to do small gigs and just have as home practicicng amp and be done with it.

I think the JVM is a great amp and I can see it killing with a YJM strat for sure. That amp takes a lot of heat but I think for what it does, it does it well and there are a lot of tones in that thing. With that said, Im not fond of the new pricetag though!

exactly what my thoughts are on it....including that price tag!! what the f?

A

 

[blackba]

This forums seems to do pretty well with taking criticism of gear, unlike other forums. There are things I don't like about every piece of gear I own, even stuff I am very happy with and have no plans to sell. Nothings perfect and I don't mind people pointing out stuff they don't like about gear as long as it is constructive. Just saying something sucks, does little good.

The one thing I have found interesting on the Axe-Fx is that the folks on the gear page seem to love the thing just going FRFR (Full Range Flat Reponse), but here most poeple like it better with a tube or SS power amp into a guitar cab. That's a pretty fundamental difference, my guess is that people play with more gain here than TGP.

As far as comparing an Axe-Fx to a Line6 or Vox Valvetronix product, I don't see the issue. Its no different than comparing a chevy to a Lexus.

A couple of more things I will admit. I don't find I really need tons of sounds and options, even playing in a cover band. I do fine with my setup now. Although I do see where the Axe-FX options would be nice. On my keyboards I have tons of patches, but I only use 6 alot and up to 25 or so total. Its still nice to have the options, but it is a pain to try to find the right voice.

Initially I was worried that the Axe-FX would erode the value of my Tube amps. I am not really worried about that anymore though.


And if you guys want to see hype, just wait till the mesa mark V comes out. I won't shut up about that amp

 

[RaceU4her]

i see more line 6 gear in professionals racks of all genres these days than id say any other company