Uh Oh...Which One of You Pissed Off Kyle Bull??

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I mean that’s fine, but what exactly do people want from Marshall at this point? They are putting out better shit than they have in years, seem to finally be listening to what the players have been asking for…modded jcm800, modded plexi’s, and now a modded Marshall that people have been wanting for 30+ years….i guess i just don’t understand the angry get off my lawn attitude about this amp, either. Not saying you personally are bitching and moaning, but there definitely is alot of that going on, and it’s weird to see at a time when Marshall seems to be rather on fire for the first time in a long time.
That’s why we all need just one great hot rodded Marshalll . I can get slayer to Green Day to Van Halen with just one head . Knob twisting and maybe an eq
 
Mother of god man, how many boring riffs did you have to listen to at .25 speed?

None, actually. I stuck to the talking only parts where he does those stupid close-ups and retarded faces. Speaking of retarded, you haven't lived until you heard his talking at 1.25 speed. :ROFLMAO:
 
In all honesty putting that Dookie symbol on the front probably turns me off most. Then the influencer spam. Then listening to BJ talk.

I mean, it sounds ok. Just not what I want from Marshall. Especially at that price. I’m more of a treble Kerang guy when it comes to Marshall I guess.



I guarentee you that amp has plenty of the Marshall kerrang we all know and love, it just hasn’t been dialed in that way. My buddy has an 800 with the SE crunch mod and one with the SE lead mod, both done by Martin; that’s the last problem it has, is not getting enough “kerrang” in it when wanted.
 
That amp is so freaking killer, if it didn't have the yngwie name and the limited production it would be the most famous marshall amp of the last 40 years

It's insane all the terrible business decisions they made in recent years - it's honestly a good thing that they've been turning it around the past few


I forgot all about this thing,I honestly don’t know what made it so special or different than a “regular” plexi
 
I guarentee you that amp has plenty of the Marshall kerrang we all know and love, it just hasn’t been dialed in that way. My buddy has an 800 with the SE crunch mod and one with the SE lead mod, both done by Martin; that’s the last problem it has, is not getting enough “kerrang” in it when wanted.
On the demos it sounds low mid and with the top end softened off. Also has this congested, electronic thing going on in the chords. Could be the players. I’d love to be proven wrong… actually I wouldn’t, this thing is overpriced. Surely the mod isn’t hard and could be done to a 1959HW or something?
 
On the demos it sounds low mid and with the top end softened off. Also has this congested, electronic thing going on in the chords. Could be the players. I’d love to be proven wrong… actually I wouldn’t, this thing is overpriced. Surely the mod isn’t hard and could be done to a 1959HW or something?
If you watched the video comparing it to the OG, it was noticeably brighter. I would say the desired tones are probably in there but any good JCM800 with an EQ boosted in front with the mids pushed will get you that tone easily as the clip RaceU4her demonstrated.
 
I forgot all about this thing,I honestly don’t know what made it so special or different than a “regular” plexi

nothing about the sound is different from a regular plexi.

It just has every possible quality of life feature you could possible mod a plexi for, stock

it has an attenuator, built in boost pedal circuit, effect loop, footswitchable volumes, noise gate, and a million different common plexi mods that just make your life easier, but no mods to the sound or circuit
 
Surely the mod isn’t hard and could be done to a 1959HW or something?

I could mod a 1959 to this exact circuit in one day. It's super simple. Just need to know the specific component values Marshall is using, compared to the Dookie Mod schematics floating around the web. I can see some of the values in the video Marshall put out, but a lot of it is blurry.
 
If you watched the video comparing it to the OG, it was noticeably brighter. I would say the desired tones are probably in there but any good JCM800 with an EQ boosted in front with the mids pushed will get you that tone easily as the clip RaceU4her demonstrated.

Agreed. A boosted 800 with a Boss or MXR EQ will get you there.
 
I could mod a 1959 to this exact circuit in one day. It's super simple. Just need to know the specific component values Marshall is using, compared to the Dookie Mod schematics floating around the web. I can see some of the values in the video Marshall put out, but a lot of it is blurry.
After you do it I’ll let you do mine until it’s dookie
 
After you do it I’ll let you do mine until it’s dookie

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All we really have here is a standard 1959 Super Lead. And I'll caveat the following with the fact that the image is blurry and I'm just giving it a quick glance.

The gain stages are cascaded. V1a cathode is 2K7/0.68uF or 0.1uF. Probably 0.68uF. V1b is 2K7 and some unknown value bypass cap (the blue electrolytic). V1a coupler appears to be 0.022uF. V1b coupler appears to be the same. V1a plate resistor appears to be 220K. V1b plate is maybe 100K. Each one is bypassed by a small silver mica cap. Probably 100pF. These just tame some highs, reducing the chance of HF oscillation. I can't see a bright cap on the gain pot, but maybe there is one.

V1a coupler feeds the volume (gain) control via a fixed resistor and cap. The resistor is dumping some signal to ground and forming either an RC or divider. Hard to tell from the photo. There is another silver mica to ground forming a low pass. This is fairly pedestrian stuff. Another resistor on the board dumping some more signal to ground. V2 is typical cathode follower and an unbypassed gain stage. Looks like maybe the low input inserts here via a grid stopper. Hard to tell.

Tone stack appears to be 47K and some unknown treble cap value. Probably 470pF or 500pF or whatever, it doesn't really matter. The rest of the circuit is typical 1959 except the PI caps are either 0.68uF or 0.1uF. That cap just before the PI output is typically 0.1uF and the PI caps don't match its size, so they're probably 0.68uF. So the amp is a bit more wooly/woofy compared to a Lead circuit. Sort of between Lead and Bass. That's it.

Ok, $4,000 please.

This mod is one of the most basic, simple "mods" I've ever seen. It's basically a 2203 with some of the highs dumped to ground and slightly more punchy gain stage biasing values in the first two stages. Booooooring.
 
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All we really have here is a standard 1959 Super Lead. And I'll caveat the following with the fact that the image is blurry and I'm just giving it a quick glance.

The gain stages are cascaded. V1a cathode is 2K7/0.68uF or 0.1uF. Probably 0.68uF. V1b is 2K7 and some unknown value bypass cap (the blue electrolytic). V1a coupler appears to be 0.022uF. V1b coupler appears to be the same. V1a plate resistor appears to be 220K. V1b plate is maybe 100K. Each one is bypassed by a small silver mica cap. Probably 100pF. These just tame some highs, reducing the chance of HF oscillation. I can't see a bright cap on the gain pot, but maybe there is one.

V1a coupler feeds the volume (gain) control via a fixed resistor and cap. The resistor is dumping some signal to ground and forming either an RC or divider. Hard to tell from the photo. There is another silver mica to ground forming a low pass. This is fairly pedestrian stuff. Another resistor on the board dumping some more signal to ground. V2 is typical cathode follower and an unbypassed gain stage. Looks like maybe the low input inserts here via a grid stopper. Hard to tell.

Tone stack appears to be 47K and some unknown treble cap value. Probably 470pF or 500pF or whatever, it doesn't really matter. The rest of the circuit is typical 1959 except the PI caps are either 0.68uF or 0.1uF. That cap just before the PI output is typically 0.1uF and the PI caps don't match its size, so they're probably 0.68uF. So the amp is a bit more wooly/woofy compared to a Lead circuit. Sort of between Lead and Bass. That's it.

Ok, $4,000 please.

This mod is one of the most basic, simple "mods" I've ever seen. It's basically a 2203 with some of the highs dumped to ground and slightly more punchy gain stage biasing values in the first two stages. Booooooring.
So not secret magic?

I’m more depressed/amazed we are at the age and stage where GREEN DAY is now the amp being marketed to people with too much money. Surreal. Up next 10 thousand dollar Sum 41 amp.
 
So not secret magic?

I’m more depressed/amazed we are at the age and stage where GREEN DAY is now the amp being marketed to people with too much money. Surreal. Up next 10 thousand dollar Sum 41 amp.

Sum 41 has way better tone (and riffs) than Green Day :hys: Plus those guys can fuckin play

I've opened for them before like 23000 years ago

Have you heard their metallica covers?

They do all of "master of puppets" like no cheating, the whole thing dude. They are way better musicians than Green Day

 
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