Update: Omega Granophyre

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you did say it had “grind” which sort of answers my question, but when someone describes zero treble-fizz for a guitar sound I get confused. Maybe it’s just direct mic’d cabs, but I associate heavily distorted guitar tones as having a certain level of treble/fizz at least on extreme settings. It’s nice to be able to dial them out but some amps just don’t have enough high end available.
I think of it as less microphonics transfering with the presence/treble/gain. Because my amp is very much like this. I describe it as clarity
 
you did say it had “grind” which sort of answers my question, but when someone describes zero treble-fizz for a guitar sound I get confused. Maybe it’s just direct mic’d cabs, but I associate heavily distorted guitar tones as having a certain level of treble/fizz at least on extreme settings. It’s nice to be able to dial them out but some amps just don’t have enough high end available.

Not sure what else to call it. White noise, static, fizz, buzz, extreme treble harshness, etc. Some amps have it. Some don't. Some speakers produce it, some don't. Whatever it is, I hate it.
 
Not sure what else to call it. White noise, static, fizz, buzz, extreme treble harshness, etc. Some amps have it. Some don't. Some speakers produce it, some don't. Whatever it is, I hate it.
I hear you… it’s tough to describe. Listening to comparisons is way better for me to explain/show. The Wizard MC was the high end crispyness I like and would be easier to mix too. The other amps seem like something is missing. There are a million factors of course.. sorry to derail your thread. I am looking at that dual rec wondering if you like it more or less than the omega

 
I would personally be too curious about some speakers that I already have to not try them. Note the positions of the V30s in the cab, and if you don't like the Fanes, put them back in the same positions with the same wiring. No real loss here. Curiosity will be sated, and you will KNOW for sure.
 
Order yourself an Atlas cab like @Exo-metal has, load up those Fanes (plus 2 more you'll order :)) and you're set! Or, load them into one of your Bogner cabs and sell the speakers out of them.
As someone who still has 8 412s says, you can never have enough speaker mass.
 
Order yourself an Atlas cab like @Exo-metal has, load up those Fanes (plus 2 more you'll order :)) and you're set! Or, load them into one of your Bogner cabs and sell the speakers out of them.
As someone who still has 8 412s says, you can never have enough speaker mass.

I was gonna put the two Fanes I have into a Mesa to pair with V30 because my other cabs have speakers better suited to Marshalls, while I wait for two more speakers. They won't be available until October or November.
 
I posted a NAD thread a while back about this limited edition Axe Palace Granophyre. I wasn't initially wowed by it. I'm the kind of guy that plugs straight into a new amp and if it doesn't impress me in the first 2 minutes, I move on. This amp sounded good at first, but it didn't rock my world. I gotta say that after giving it more time and really dialing it in with the right pieces in the rest of the signal chain... I'm in total love. It's one of, if not the best sounds I've ever had.

Mayones Duvell with Lundgren M6
Maxon OD808
Fortin Zuul in the loop
Mesa Traditional 4x12

I got a second Mesa cab because I have some custom Fane speakers I was gonna swap in. But after playing both cabs in parallel with the stock Mesa V30s, it's absolutely mind blowing! Running two cabs... not much louder. Double the drivers typically means double the volume, but with the same power from the amp getting divided between them, there's no real volume change. HOWEVER... the sheer aggression and low-end thump I'm getting from two cabs is fantastic. All the pieces have lined up right. The mid range has a phenomenal grind. Zero treble fizz. And the low end is immediate and punchy without being overbearing. And the amp has an addictive bounciness to the attack, while staying tight enough to track while down-tuned.

I'm really surprised by how different the amp sounds running two cabs vs one.

Now the dilemma... do I keep it as is and just rock two cabs or do I swap the speakers for these new Fanes and give that a go? I can always go back to the stock speakers, but I hate messing with a good thing. I've played another cab with these Fanes and compared to my first Mesa cab and these Fanes do sound incredible.

Anyway... I'm super happy with this amp. It's quiet. It's built fairly well. It's simple. And it sounds stupid good. It's like the best SLO, Rectifier, 5150, Cobra with all the best mods for those amps rolled into one. For modern metal, metal-core, etc... I've not found a better amp.

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Did you buy the Mesa cabs new ? Sometimes I miss my Mesa traditional. I had 3 of them through the years. I had one that sound the best and kept that one for a long time. Ultimately I liked my Bogner cabs slightly more and sold it. The Mesa was a little darker and more honky in the mids. But the room I have my gear in tends make everything sound a bit darker. Was a great can though.
 
Did you buy the Mesa cabs new ? Sometimes I miss my Mesa traditional. I had 3 of them through the years. I had one that sound the best and kept that one for a long time. Ultimately I liked my Bogner cabs slightly more and sold it. The Mesa was a little darker and more honky in the mids. But the room I have my gear in tends make everything sound a bit darker. Was a great can though.

Yeah, got them new. None of my Bogners ever had V30, so it's hard to say how they actually compare. I'd have to swap the Mesa V30s into a Bogner to know. Too much work.
 
I'd bet the Mesa V30 sound different from the "standard" current Celestion V30.
 
I'd bet the Mesa V30 sound different from the "standard" current Celestion V30.

I don't think there is any difference anymore. IIRC the Mesa V30s used to be labeled differently but the new ones are just the standard production V30s.

Anybody with current production cabs with both feel free to check them and correct me, but the V30s Mesa is selling just look like the normal off the shelf speakers.
 
I don't think there is any difference anymore. IIRC the Mesa V30s used to be labeled differently but the new ones are just the standard production V30s.

Anybody with current production cabs with both feel free to check them and correct me, but the V30s Mesa is selling just look like the normal off the shelf speakers.

As far as I can tell, they're still different.
 
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