TheBiggestJerk
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While SCOTUS examines this, what does being a citizen actually mean and what are the amenities or is the concept meaningless????
311boogieman
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You mean like being able to vote, buy guns, have freedom of speech, etc.?
TheBiggestJerk
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Break it down to the letter. What possession does citizenship carry that only applies to citizens???
Side note. In biblical antiquity, Roman citizenship was a highly valuable possession, that could actually be purchased. The Apostle Paul - born in Turkey applied it and it allowed him the right to appeal directly to Caesar.
70 Mach 1
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what is means is women are coming in to this county to drop off their packages.
for whatever reason it may be. could be a simple as a problem pregnancy thats needs specialized care.
some stay here because now since the child is legal citizen its harder to deport the mother.
others like the Chinese mothers go back to their country. those children 18 yrs later can come back here and legally vote
ya get enough of the commies doing that they can overthrow an election or at least influence politics to sway hard left
not even to mention we have to foot the bill and if they stay here forever support them.
fuuuuuck that. afaik. if the mother is not a citizen neither should the child be
for whatever reason it may be. could be a simple as a problem pregnancy thats needs specialized care.
some stay here because now since the child is legal citizen its harder to deport the mother.
others like the Chinese mothers go back to their country. those children 18 yrs later can come back here and legally vote
ya get enough of the commies doing that they can overthrow an election or at least influence politics to sway hard left
not even to mention we have to foot the bill and if they stay here forever support them.
fuuuuuck that. afaik. if the mother is not a citizen neither should the child be
311boogieman
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Some people laugh - but you are not wrong.
But @TheBiggestJerk - I'm not sure where you are going with this. I am assuming for now you are being facetious. Voting laws are state by state and we've seen that some states you need zero proof of anything. Not sure you can legally purchase a gun without proper documentation and background checks. Freedom of Speech is pretty much available to anyone on US soil
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VonBonfire
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Private sale.
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Robostyle
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States differ on this i think. Seller and buyer are supposed to be legal gun owners, otherwise it's unlawful possession.Private sale.
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VonBonfire
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I guess in some instances it could be a problem but everyplace I live it isn't. The last guy who sold me a pistol didn't look at my ID and I figure if I sell a gun to someone who does something stupid with it it's on them not me. Most gun owners are pretty good people so I've never had a problem.
311boogieman
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Private sale.
Not legally in my state. We now require an ATF 4473.
But otherwise you are right - I'm sure there are plenty of guns sold and traded with zero paperwork. Just like there a shitload of guns going south across the border.
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JackTripper
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You forgot the most important perk--paying taxes!
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VonBonfire
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Seems tough to prove unless the firearm was originally purchased after that requirement.Not legally in my state. We now require an ATF 4473.
Floyd Eye
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What ? That is extremely incorrect. The only time you have to use a 4473 is a transaction with a federal firearm license holder.Not legally in my state. We now require an ATF 4473.
But otherwise you are right - I'm sure there are plenty of guns sold and traded with zero paperwork. Just like there a shitload of guns going south across the border.
Only a handful of blue states require 4473s for private firearm sales. In most places, definitely in Missouri, it's perfectly legal to buy, sell and trade firearms between private citizens with no government interference. You are not allowed to KNOWINGLY sell a gun to a prohibited person, you are not required to verify someone is allowed to have a gun. The onus would be on prosecutors to prove you knew they were a felon or otherwise prohibited by federal law from owning or possessing a firearm.
Floyd Eye
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It's definitely not a requirement. I think the Boogieman must have been smoking dust when he posted this.
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Robostyle
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Thanks for that clarification.
TheBiggestJerk
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I asked AI the same question. This is how it answered.
311boogieman
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I stand corrected.
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Playing the looooooooong game
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Robostyle
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They love you long time
70 Mach 1
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What other game is there?
What do you do? Play chess 1 move at a time,?
Oh....you live day to day with no future planning. Bravo.
Go ahead bounce one at a time.
What do you do? Play chess 1 move at a time,?
Oh....you live day to day with no future planning. Bravo.
Go ahead bounce one at a time.
Floyd Eye
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You live in a beautiful state for gun rights bro. Wasn’t always like that. At one point I considered moving to Texas. When I was 21 I was arrested and charged with attempted unlawful use of a weapon for having my own legally owned handgun in the glove box of my Cadillac. It seems unfathomable now.
