What does Tom Morello have to complain about?

[Rogue]

None of the three you mentioned have embraced communism.

Neither has Morello that I can tell. Maybe he has (I don't follow the guy), but no one has demonstrated this yet.

 

[rupe]

it's funny..each year, it's a new agenda.....the past year has been bullying. now, the hot topic is gay marriage....

all shoved down our throats so we don't focus on REAL issues that affect us every day....budget...overseas outsourcing...oil companies dictating our financial state....etc etc etc.

This is exactly what the problem is, yet for some reason it never seems to be addressed in a meaningful way. Most people will agree that two of our biggest issues as a nation are the influence of money on politics and the self-serving, entitled nature of our politicians, yet we continue to support candidates who don't address these issues. Anybody who's platform is focused on these issues is largely ignored (see Buddy Roemer for a good example of this). Now we're left with Obama and Romney, neither of whom will do a damn thing to fix what's broken. I have yet to hear either of them vow to fight the Citizens United ruling or attempt to impose term limits on congress...two things that would go far in restoring a modicum of sanity to our system. Rather, they will continue to pander to their electorates (they were described well in an earlier post) in order to retain their power and influence. Neither party has this nation's best interests at heart...its all self-serving and has been for quite some time and we play right into it...lather/rinse/repeat. Vote for a major party candidate this fall and you've just voted for more of the same.
Until Americans can put aside their personal interests and unite to fix the system, we'll continue down this path of corruption and non-representation. Anybody who still subscribes to the thought that "a vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote" is a part of the problem.

 

[ejecta]

Maybe the fact that he hasn't been relevant for 13 years.

Or, the way I see it: Never! Just another in a long line of people that would rather use gadgetry to make noise than put in the time to actually play well.If talent were a requirement of success, he would be manning the grill at waffle house.

He can actually play technical stuff well. Just chose a different path for RATM.

I'm going to have to see proof of this george

The solo in the YT link I posted above isn't easy to play and pretty technical. We used to cover that song back in the 90's and it took me a bit to be able to get it down.

 

[Greazygeo]

He can actually play technical stuff well. Just chose a different path for RATM.

I'm going to have to see proof of this george[/quote]I dunno, the early RATM stuff is pretty slammin' riff wise.

Here's one earlier tune I always liked.

This is pretty cool. Kinda the Meniketti toggle switch trick

Some cool stuff in this one towards the end.

 

[skoora]

it's funny..each year, it's a new agenda.....the past year has been bullying. now, the hot topic is gay marriage....

all shoved down our throats so we don't focus on REAL issues that affect us every day....budget...overseas outsourcing...oil companies dictating our financial state....etc etc etc.

This is exactly what the problem is, yet for some reason it never seems to be addressed in a meaningful way. Most people will agree that two of our biggest issues as a nation are the influence of money on politics and the self-serving, entitled nature of our politicians, yet we continue to support candidates who don't address these issues. Anybody who's platform is focused on these issues is largely ignored (see Buddy Roemer for a good example of this). Now we're left with Obama and Romney, neither of whom will do a damn thing to fix what's broken. I have yet to hear either of them vow to fight the Citizens United ruling or attempt to impose term limits on congress...two things that would go far in restoring a modicum of sanity to our system. Rather, they will continue to pander to their electorates (they were described well in an earlier post) in order to retain their power and influence. Neither party has this nation's best interests at heart...its all self-serving and has been for quite some time and we play right into it...lather/rinse/repeat. Vote for a major party candidate this fall and you've just voted for more of the same.
Until Americans can put aside their personal interests and unite to fix the system, we'll continue down this path of corruption and non-representation. Anybody who still subscribes to the thought that "a vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote" is a part of the problem.

Well said. We should be more united in changing the overall system of government to more truly represent the citizens than get manipulated into emotionally charged, reactionary left vs. right bullshit that only exists in the package that they've spent years perfecting, adding the right preservatives and dose of sugar and selling it as organic. Stop listening to talking heads on the radio and TV and talk with people you actually meet and usually if you can get past any media infused indoctrination you can have the most reasonable and interesting discourse. I'm in different homes all day long for my job and every now and then a political discussion arises and if it's with someone who has Fox news on in the background (which I detest) the discussion gets interesting if the person just doesn't repeat a Fox news personalities talking point as their own. The same goes for MSNBC etc. Once people flush out the brainwashing and just think about it for themselves we can all have some pretty great intercourse ( ) and compromise.

My one caveat is I dig Bill Maher's show a lot and it's mainly because it's funny but I like that he treats his Republican guests with respect and I've seen him refrain many times from chastising a talking point when he acknowledged he didn't know for sure himself. He still literally calls bullshit if he thinks it is, but never that heated. Now I know he goes off on New Rules (usually funny as fuck) but that's his own personal space. Ultimately he entertained me and I don't take away anything more than that. There's a distinction to me between being entertained and being indoctrinated. I don't watch any serious politically themed shows. Daily Show, Colbert is all good. Make me laugh.

eg. I'm a big supporter of Pro Choice. But I also believe a church run organization should not be forced to offer services that are a direct aversion to their faith that are not covered in anti-discrimination laws. Wow, I didn't just implode after all.

 

[ejecta]

it's funny..each year, it's a new agenda.....the past year has been bullying. now, the hot topic is gay marriage....

all shoved down our throats so we don't focus on REAL issues that affect us every day....budget...overseas outsourcing...oil companies dictating our financial state....etc etc etc.

This is exactly what the problem is, yet for some reason it never seems to be addressed in a meaningful way. Most people will agree that two of our biggest issues as a nation are the influence of money on politics and the self-serving, entitled nature of our politicians, yet we continue to support candidates who don't address these issues. Anybody who's platform is focused on these issues is largely ignored (see Buddy Roemer for a good example of this). Now we're left with Obama and Romney, neither of whom will do a damn thing to fix what's broken. I have yet to hear either of them vow to fight the Citizens United ruling or attempt to impose term limits on congress...two things that would go far in restoring a modicum of sanity to our system. Rather, they will continue to pander to their electorates (they were described well in an earlier post) in order to retain their power and influence. Neither party has this nation's best interests at heart...its all self-serving and has been for quite some time and we play right into it...lather/rinse/repeat. Vote for a major party candidate this fall and you've just voted for more of the same.
Until Americans can put aside their personal interests and unite to fix the system, we'll continue down this path of corruption and non-representation. Anybody who still subscribes to the thought that "a vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote" is a part of the problem.

Great post!

 

[Shark Diver]

Best part of this thread is that we live in a Country that allows you guys to have it.

 

[skoora]

Best part of this thread is that we live in a Country that allows you guys to have it.

Ain't it great, but I might trade the freedom of this thread for the freedom of the Octo-Mom.

 

[kiff]

I hope that you guys bashing the citizens united case, that probably got caught up in the big "corporations are people" red herring, realize that you are advocating government bureaucrats should decide who has freedom of the press... and would even ban books from those that don't have such a "privilege" bestowed upon them

 

[rupe]

I hope that you guys bashing the citizens united case, that probably got caught up in the big "corporations are people" red herring, realize that you are advocating government bureaucrats should decide who has freedom of the press... and would even ban books from those that don't have such a "privilege" bestowed upon them

Huh? What does CU have to do with freedom of the press?

 

['63-Strat]

This place is so predictable.

 

[kiff]

I hope that you guys bashing the citizens united case, that probably got caught up in the big "corporations are people" red herring, realize that you are advocating government bureaucrats should decide who has freedom of the press... and would even ban books from those that don't have such a "privilege" bestowed upon them

Huh? What does CU have to do with freedom of the press?

everything. here's a few key points:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_U ... Commission

government bureaucrats say:

"small, conservative non-profit bad"

The nonprofit corporation Citizens United wanted to air a film critical of Hillary Clinton and to advertise the film during television broadcasts in apparent violation of the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (commonly known as the McCain–Feingold Act

"michael moore good!"

During the 2004 presidential campaign, a conservative nonprofit 501(c)(4) organization named Citizens United filed a complaint before the Federal Election Commission (FEC) charging that advertisements for Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11, a documentary critical of the Bush administration's response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, constituted political advertising and thus could not be aired within the 30 days before a primary election or 60 days before a general election. The FEC dismissed the complaint after finding no evidence that broadcast advertisements for the movie and featuring a candidate with the proscribed time limits had actually been made.

government bureaucrats argue they have the power to even ban books!

During the original oral argument, then-Deputy Solicitor General Malcolm L. Stewart (representing the FEC) argued that under Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce,[13] the government would have the power to ban books if those books contained even one sentence expressly advocating the election or defeat of a candidate and were published or distributed by a corporation or union.[14] In response to this line of questioning, Stewart further argued that under Austin the government could ban the digital distribution of political books over the Amazon Kindle or prevent a union from hiring a writer to author a political book

The Supreme Court says "go suck big balls you little fucks"

Justice Kennedy's opinion for the majority also noted that since the First Amendment (and the Court) do not distinguish between media and other corporations, these restrictions would allow Congress to suppress political speech in newspapers, books, television and blogs.

 

[chunktone]

Maybe the fact that he hasn't been relevant for 13 years.

Or, the way I see it: Never! Just another in a long line of people that would rather use gadgetry to make noise than put in the time to actually play well.If talent were a requirement of success, he would be manning the grill at waffle house.

He can actually play technical stuff well. Just chose a different path for RATM.

I'm going to have to see proof of this george

I have seen the proof, and he can't play for @#$%!

 

[Gainzilla]

The solo in the YT link I posted above isn't easy to play and pretty technical. We used to cover that song back in the 90's and it took me a bit to be able to get it down.

For what? Know your enemy? Which part? The simple 3 note per string pattern section or the part after that? I taught this to a kid years ago and Im no more impressed today than I was then,I actually found it pretty easy. The only difficult part for me was getting the right interval on the harmonizer that I had(didnt have a whammy pedal at the time). It happens to be my favorite RATM tune but It isnt anything I would consider technical and I definitely dont consider this difficult. Must have been all the "weedly weedly" stuff that I listened to..

 

[Anonymous]

tom was wheedly wheedlying on the whammy pedal in the early 90's and shredding away on the guitar in the 80's just like me...regardless of his politics. you can't deny that as a guitarist, he's gone pretty far out of the box in regards to his playing and songwriting. personally, if you're going to wank on morello for being an asshole that ruins every song with the octave setting on the whammy pedal, then you'd be hard pressed to not do the same for everyone's current flavor of the decade hero dimebag darrell for doing the same.

see what i did there?

Flavor of the decade, surely you can't be serious. I don't see the comparison between one of the best metal shredders of all time and a guy who just runs his hands up and down the strings while stepping on pedals in every song. That's a joke of a post of I ever saw one... You may as well compare Randy Rhoads to C.C. deville.

Every now and then I'll enjoy some RATM but not if I want to hear anything remotely technical on the guitar. For the most part, now that I'm older the whole premise of that band and everything they stand (stood) for seems like a joke and is such a political whine fest I can't stomach it.

i dont wanna stray real far from the OP, my point was, every tom dick and harry that knows nothing about music will shove dimebag at you, just cause he's dead. hes in my top 3, so dont be sooooo upset at what i said. my point was, if you're going to bring up the whammy pedal issue about tom, like a lot of ppl do, then you can't NOT say it about dime, cause he beat that horse to death, til the end. im also not of the mindset that just cause someone is dead, that it immortalizes them as a hero or canonizes them all the sudden, even though in dimes case, yeah, he was a great guitarist. that's all. one side of me wants to rip off some know nothings dimebag shirt (cause i hold Dime very close to me), the other side of me says, hell, the more power to them. what i said was misconstrued, that's all.

 

[thiswaythatway]

I love Tom and love Rage against the Machine. Love their politics! Maybe next time I will join them in the streets!!!! And I work in the financial industry, so go figure.

And what a huge talent he is as well. Just an amazing guitarist.

IMHO he's not an amazing guitarist but he just had a knack for coming up with wacky original sounding parts. The first RATM album had some great riffs on it though and that stuff stands on it's own as some great stuff. But his lead playing is what it is, he has flashes here and there. But he's a big fan of shred. But he can shove his political views up his ass.

 

[joepete77]

Some of the early posts leave me wondering. I think many here fail to see that a true patriot who really loves this country and the PEOPLE that make it up speaks on the things that are wrong with it and threaten what once made it great and stand apart. I respect Tom even more being that he still is active and speaks up on issues that threaten the middle class even though he himself is quite wealthy unlike most who become wealthy and then only worry about themselves and positions that protect only their own kind even at others loss. Since when does being a successful musician mean you forfeit your right to a political opinion? But I am sure if it were Toby Keith blindly waving the flag at a GOP rally then that would be just fine. I was never a fan of toms and don't agree with all his views , especially immigration, but I respect his passion and the fact that he is very informed on issues he speaks about. Remember, a real patriot speaks pointing out wrongs no matter how it's perceived. The biggest threat to our country's freedom are the uneducated flag wavers who blindly agree with everything the government does as not to seem unpatriotic.

 

[The Jeff]

Here you go, sheep...


http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ews-actually-makes-you-less-informed-20120524

FOX News makes you stoopid.

 

[Chris O]

Yeti...you're the only guy who seems to "get it". Libertarian by chance?

Morello...yeah, he's a douche. Always has been. "Arm the Homeless". Brilliant...

 

[Red_Label]

Here you go, sheep...


http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ews-actually-makes-you-less-informed-20120524

FOX News makes you stoopid.

Oh... that's AWESOME! ROLLING STONE Magazine no less! The epitome of fair and unbiased "journalism". Seriously... I wouldn't wipe my ass with a copy of that beyond-worthless rag. Jann Wenner is a douche-nozzle of the highest order.