What happened to the Helios?

[Ventura]

Ok which one of you bought the Atma from Mainstreet Music????

 

[yngzaklynch]

No not kidding someone from here saw it and bought it. Just spent the last hour shooting the breeze with the stores owner on FaceBook

 

[steve_k]

No not kidding someone from here saw it and bought it. Just spent the last hour shooting the breeze with the stores owner on FaceBook

 

[yngzaklynch]

No not kidding someone from here saw it and bought it. Just spent the last hour shooting the breeze with the stores owner on FaceBook

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Confused

 

[Ventura]

Fess up Stevie... When's DHL delivering it?

 

[yngzaklynch]

Confused

 

[yngzaklynch]

Really ????

 

[steve_k]

Really ????

It was me.....

 

[glip22]

Really ????

It was me.....

Haven't they figured it out yet not to post something on here they may want You could pull the old AXE trick and resell it for 2500

 

[yngzaklynch]

Really ????

It was me.....

Very cool

 

[guitarslayer]

Bogner is starting to have too many amps IMO. I thought the Helios sounded fine, but there are buttwads of rodded Marshall clones out there already. Do we really need another one when so many have really nailed the design?

They're marketed to different segments of the world. Bogner HQ spent a good couple years (right after the 2009 release of the 20th Anniversary line) promoting and appealing to the Japanese and European market. That's a huge segment right there (Japan) that's not often talked about here - but it's massive. More Herberts (Diezel) purchased there than any other Diezel amp worldwide, just saying, and Reinhold went in with these fantastic heads that had the right appeal, panache and direction for other market areas.


Edited a couple of times due to not having my coffee before typing.

I understand what he's doing, but their turn around isn't that good these days though eh? At least that's what I'm hearing, and I would imagine constant R&D work could affect this. As far as the "get it right the first time, so there won't be any revisions," I personally think most of the revisions are done because of customer feedback, not because it didn't turn out the way RB wanted it to. I almost wish they would've left the Uberschall alone, but still came out with the TJ. I have almost no desire to ever get a Rev. blue Uber as I don't think it is what was originally intended. Heck I didn't even mind the gain knob going to 11 at just barely open. Then the effects loop level knob was put on cuz peeps were putting pedals in the loop, but leaving the channel volume up too high, and overloading them. At any rate.......... I still love Bogners, but I don't think I would look to them for a HRM. I would prolly get a Henning from our fellow member hear on RT, or a Roccaforte. Both of those amps do the Marshallesque but more thing really well, and they are works of art on the inside.

You don't think the Twinjet was a good evolution of the Uberschall?

 

[Ventura]

You don't think the Twinjet was a good evolution of the Uberschall?

Not going to hijack who this question was aimed at, but I'll state for the record that by NO means is the TwinJet a BAD thing. The TJ is a beast - and evolution is a good term to use - people prefer older things, some newer things. TwinJet is a very very capable, compotent and potent amp. It's a nuke in the sonic heavies. I am very glad the TJ is what it is. Thing rips.

 

[cardinal]

Sweetwater says they have 1 Atma now, too.

 

[se7en]

You don't think the Twinjet was a good evolution of the Uberschall?

Not going to hijack who this question was aimed at, but I'll state for the record that by NO means is the TwinJet a BAD thing. The TJ is a beast - and evolution is a good term to use - people prefer older things, some newer things. TwinJet is a very very capable, compotent and potent amp. It's a nuke in the sonic heavies. I am very glad the TJ is what it is. Thing rips.

The TJ kicks all kinds of ass. Tight, open with lots of clarity for such a massive tone. A player's Uberschall if you will. Skip if you need cleans.

 

[glassjaw7]

This thread is hilarious. The friggin Helios was just announced!

 

[Nico]

Why even get a Helios when BE-100 exists?

Reza, you nailed it! Big time!!!


The Friedman is such an amazing amp for THAT type of tones everything pales in comparison!

 

[supersonic]

Why even get a Helios when BE-100 exists?

Reza, you nailed it! Big time!!!


The Friedman is such an amazing amp for THAT type of tones everything pales in comparison!

Sold my Marsha, that was so 2010. Need something 2014.

 

[IndyWS6]

Why even get a Helios when BE-100 exists?

Reza, you nailed it! Big time!!!


The Friedman is such an amazing amp for THAT type of tones everything pales in comparison!

Seems like a bit of a stretch, but, then again, I haven't played one.

And that is one of the important points for me. I don't live in southern California and have never even seen a Friedman in person. I have no opportunity to play one before buying. It's far more likely that a Helios will end up at Sweetwater (which is 90 minutes away...) or Guitar Center (30 minutes...) where I can actually try one. The relative ease of trying and buying a Bogner, along with the service options and reliability, the lower retail price and the fact that the demo DR did with it that made it sound ridiculously friggin' good has me leaning towards the Bogner.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary, blah, blah, blah

 

[Ventura]

For a handwired amp at $1000 less than the BE100, and with the Bogner trademark tonal stamp of tone? It's all win.

 

[Bob Savage]

The Atma is out right now

Alright, I rescind me previous statement about my wrongness. It turns out that my statement of my wrongness was wrong. Bogner did deliver the Atma.

I restate that Bogner is a professional company that doesn't show an amp that it doesn't deliver.

Thank you and good day. I SAID GOOD DAY.