What is the most reliable wireless unit?

[iplayloudly]

Money isn't much of a factor here. I need a reliable wireless. I have a Line 6 G10 unit and a G50. Both experience drop outs on occasion. Tried a Shure GLXD 16 and got a lot of interference (no dropouts, but static). I actually thought that one was defective so I sent it back and got another, which had the same problem.

I'm almost positive my problems are wi-fi related. Our band uses a wi-fi setup for mixing our in-ears, and most venues we play in have wi-fi.

Wi-fi is just about everywhere these days though, so are there any units out there that would not be affected by it? I should also mention I need one in pedal form, as I do not use a rack.

 

[Riggins1966]

that's going to be a problem with almost any digital unit that shares that frequency range (2.4ghz.)

If you can run your IEMs router at 5ghz it might help a bit, but it won't do anything for drunky chick(s) standing right in front of you while talking/texting on her phone, along with myriad other sources of interference.

I swear I never had this problem back in the day with UHF/VHF wirelesses. But the signal quality wasn't as good, nor the range.

 

[NinjaRaf]

Damn. Ive been using a G50 for close to 10 years. I did have extreme issues at one venue, but other than that, no problems.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

I've had the Shure GLXD-16. Noticed the static in my apartment when next to my wifi router. I've played multiple venues with WIFI and haven't had the static issue at any time. Go figure. ...I love the sure. Just never really use in my apartment.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

I run my G10 3 feet from my wifi and hardly ever get a dropout. The XVive gets glitchy.
I just snagged a G10s and it seems vastly improved from the G10 in many ways. Not sure if this helps but there it is

 

[errrrrl]

I run my G10 3 feet from my wifi and hardly ever get a dropout. The XVive gets glitchy.
I just snagged a G10s and it seems vastly improved from the G10 in many ways. Not sure if this helps but there it is

So the G10S is better? I'm curious how so? I like my G10 but was wondering about the new model with the channel selector. I know that base is now pedal board friendly, I probably would have upgraded too but I figure out a way to use the G10 usb base with a reverse polarity cable + barrel to usb adaptor, so far so good.

 

[Marshall Law]

No problems with my G70.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

I run my G10 3 feet from my wifi and hardly ever get a dropout. The XVive gets glitchy.
I just snagged a G10s and it seems vastly improved from the G10 in many ways. Not sure if this helps but there it is

So the G10S is better? I'm curious how so? I like my G10 but was wondering about the new model with the channel selector. I know that base is now pedal board friendly, I probably would have upgraded too but I figure out a way to use the G10 usb base with a reverse polarity cable + barrel to usb adaptor, so far so good.

G10S has a longer range.
the best improvement was including a normal 9v connection as that previous micro usb was not reliable- 1 touch and your signal was out. Looks like you have that solved.
Many G10 people said that where you plug in the transmitter to charge pushed into the circuit board and eventually killed it (which happened to my first one). The new one has a different type of horizontal connection which I hope is improved.
The 10 and 20 ft cable sims actually sound decent.
channel selections
Comes with an adapter as some guitars didn't work well without

Pro Audio Star had it 15% off...and looking at used prices, I could likely flip my used G10 for about the same cost making it a no brainer if you like the G10

 

[iplayloudly]

I actually like the G10 the most out of all the ones I've had, EXCEPT the range is terrible. The G10S is supposed to have a longer range and it uses the same transmitter. I contacted Line 6 a while back and asked if they offer the receiver by itself since I have 2 G10 transmitters already. They said not yet, but will in the future.

This wouldn't completely fix my problems, but I like that the G10/G10S can automatically pick the best channel. With the G50 I just have to guess. My bass player has the rackmount G90 system, and it shows on the screen how crowded all the channels are, so I can sometimes just look on there to make my best guess.

 

[Speeddemon]

I swear I never had this problem back in the day with UHF/VHF wirelesses. But the signal quality wasn't as good, nor the range.

Fo 'sho. I used to have a VHF Nady, true diversity... sold that to get a Line6 Relay G30...shouldn't have done that. The Nady was reliable as clockwork and better built too. It used regular 9V batteries

To be honest, the Line6 maybe gave me drop-outs at one or two gigs out of 100-150 or so, but it's built a bit flimsy. I sold my G30 last year for a Shure GLXD-16, which had a different problem; battery draining in transmitter, when transmitter was turned off. Like, within a week.
They fixed this under warranty.

To the guys that mention static/interference with their GLXD16, can you elaborate? How does that sound?

I've noticed with mine, if I'm playing really clean-clean (e.g. Roland Jazz Chorus...Mesa Mark V in Clean or Fat mode with gain at 30%), I hear this sort of very, very subtle static/fizzy distortion on single notes on the low E string, when played with humbucker-equipped guitars. I've changed the GLXD16's input level (to -12dB even) to make sure it wasn't overloading, but that's not the case. It's really subtle, but it *is* different from the sound from a real cable, which doesn't have this problem.

 

[iplayloudly]

To the guys that mention static/interference with their GLXD16, can you elaborate? How does that sound?

I've noticed with mine, if I'm playing really clean-clean (e.g. Roland Jazz Chorus...Mesa Mark V in Clean or Fat mode with gain at 30%), I hear this sort of very, very subtle static/fizzy distortion on single notes on the low E string, when played with humbucker-equipped guitars. I've changed the GLXD16's input level (to -12dB even) to make sure it wasn't overloading, but that's not the case. It's really subtle, but it *is* different from the sound from a real cable, which doesn't have this problem.

Check out the video on this post... Mine was the exact same problem.
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index ... t-25965819

 

[Speeddemon]

To the guys that mention static/interference with their GLXD16, can you elaborate? How does that sound?

I've noticed with mine, if I'm playing really clean-clean (e.g. Roland Jazz Chorus...Mesa Mark V in Clean or Fat mode with gain at 30%), I hear this sort of very, very subtle static/fizzy distortion on single notes on the low E string, when played with humbucker-equipped guitars. I've changed the GLXD16's input level (to -12dB even) to make sure it wasn't overloading, but that's not the case. It's really subtle, but it *is* different from the sound from a real cable, which doesn't have this problem.

Check out the video on this post... Mine was the exact same problem.
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index ... t-25965819

Okay, that's way worse than what I'm experiencing with mine.

 

[sleewell2]

i love my shure glxd16

 

[PBGas]

In my band, the three of us all use the Boss WL-50 units. They have been outstanding. The bonus on these is that if for some reason that you have a lot of interference, you can simply plug a cable in the base unit and go without having to unhook or reconfigure anything.

They sounds great!

 

[peckhart]

I've been using the GLXD16 for close to 3 years now and it had been super solid and reliable, BUT.....

It wouldn't be fair to blame it just yet, but on my last gig I was having some really strange issues. Last year I had some bad jack sounding signal issues that I traced down to the neutrik jacks on my trailer trash board. Fixed that then 2 months later had similar symptoms that popped up 2 or 3 times before I realized the jack on my 4x12 was pooping its pants. Fixed that and that I was ready to rock heading into our 2019 gigs and on the 2nd show back on 2/9 my signal kept going weak and/or sounding like it was chopping in and out, but not ever totally dropping out. I tried to find the problem during the show, but it wasn't constant and I couldn't figure anything out.
Set everything up at home and could never recreate it. The only thing different was the sound and light system we had on stage (provided by hired company). I never manually mess with changing channels on the GLXD and didn't even think about it, but looking back I have to wonder if I wasn't for the first time experiencing some sort of Wifi interference and maybe changing the channel group could have fixed it.
Haven't done a show since so we will see what happens going forward.
Outside of that I normally chime in on these threads with a glowing endorsement for the GLXD16 and I am hoping I can get back to that.

 

[chunktone]

I've been happy with my PRA Audio
System.
https://www.praaudio.com/product/wic-fo ... h-gig-bag/

 

[phil b]

I heard the G50 had issues but supposedly Line6 was aware if it and fixed it? I use the G90 which is rack, but fortunately in the years i've owned it i've never had any dropout or interference.

 

[errrrrl]

In my band, the three of us all use the Boss WL-50 units. They have been outstanding. The bonus on these is that if for some reason that you have a lot of interference, you can simply plug a cable in the base unit and go without having to unhook or reconfigure anything.

They sounds great!

Thats good to know, I was considering going that route if my G10 fails or breaks.

 

[errrrrl]

I run my G10 3 feet from my wifi and hardly ever get a dropout. The XVive gets glitchy.
I just snagged a G10s and it seems vastly improved from the G10 in many ways. Not sure if this helps but there it is

So the G10S is better? I'm curious how so? I like my G10 but was wondering about the new model with the channel selector. I know that base is now pedal board friendly, I probably would have upgraded too but I figure out a way to use the G10 usb base with a reverse polarity cable + barrel to usb adaptor, so far so good.

G10S has a longer range.
the best improvement was including a normal 9v connection as that previous micro usb was not reliable- 1 touch and your signal was out. Looks like you have that solved.
Many G10 people said that where you plug in the transmitter to charge pushed into the circuit board and eventually killed it (which happened to my first one). The new one has a different type of horizontal connection which I hope is improved.
The 10 and 20 ft cable sims actually sound decent.
channel selections
Comes with an adapter as some guitars didn't work well without

Pro Audio Star had it 15% off...and looking at used prices, I could likely flip my used G10 for about the same cost making it a no brainer if you like the G10

Thanks dude, longer range sounds good to me... Gonna compare to that boss one I think, both sound like they are really good.

 

[iplayloudly]

In my band, the three of us all use the Boss WL-50 units. They have been outstanding. The bonus on these is that if for some reason that you have a lot of interference, you can simply plug a cable in the base unit and go without having to unhook or reconfigure anything.

They sounds great!

With any wireless, I always plug up the receiver to the pedalboard with a coiled up standard 20' cable. If any problems start, I can quickly unplug the wireless and just plug straight into the guitar. Aside from that, I don't need to use any kind of cable-tone simulator, since I'm using a normal lengthy cable.