What is up with this? Jose Mods!!!

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[Zachman]

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[Zachman]

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[Atomic Playboy]

I read this shit on Metro Forum and I couldn't believe it.
Out of respect for George and others the OP probably shouldn't have posted it here. It would never occur to me to do such a thing as I know there are real people involved, not just some forum wank discussion.
I have 4300 posts on Metro amp forum, it was a large part of my young Internet guitar/amp life.
Really was a community of like minded individuals there.
Since all the hardships in George's life in the past few years, he still maintains a personal integrity and standards of workmanship that is unequaled.
I realize a lot of people were ripped by this loon, but the ones that I know I can comment about.
Dave Friedman is absolutely a great guy..fullstop. He is helpful passes on his knowledge and let's his work and reputation speak for itself.
I again couldn't believe what I was reading on Metro amp forum the other night. It was actually upsetting.
Then in another thread, Mark Day gets it as well..
Further publicizing this sort of slanderous crap doesn't help anybody. That's all I have to say.
I really don't enjoy forums anymore with the way things have become these days
Atomic Playboy

 

[Anonymous]

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[steve_k]

I own 4 of Mark's Jose amps and they all 4 sound different. Wonder which one Mark's Jose circuits the Cloning Crew has decided to copy? Not a lot of achievement to be proud of, if you ask me.

 

[Anonymous]

I own 4 of Mark's Jose amps and they all 4 sound different. Wonder which one Mark's Jose circuits the Cloning Crew has decided to copy? Not a lot of achievement to be proud of, if you ask me.

Whatever spec was grabbed out of one particular mod somebody allowed them to blueprint, I'd guess... Gonna be hit or miss depending on what state the amp is in that is being modded vs. the blueprinted amp. Without Mark's ears it's useless really... Now production amps like what Brad is bringing to market from Mark's designs are a different thing...

BTW - BB says he has Aldrich, Cameron Jose, Friedman... you name it. You can get the mods (down payment) for $29.99 on eBay. YeeHaw!!!

Steve

 

[jcj]

I own 4 of Mark's Jose amps and they all 4 sound different. Wonder which one Mark's Jose circuits the Cloning Crew has decided to copy? Not a lot of achievement to be proud of, if you ask me.

Whatever spec was grabbed out of one particular mod somebody allowed them to blueprint, I'd guess... Gonna be hit or miss depending on what state the amp is in that is being modded vs. the blueprinted amp. Without Mark's ears it's useless really... Now production amps like what Brad is bringing to market from Mark's designs are a different thing...

BTW - BB says he has Aldrich, Cameron Jose, Friedman... you name it. You can get the mods (down payment) for $29.99 on eBay. YeeHaw!!!

Steve

It would appear Ol' BB has some partners, too.

 

[steve_k]

I own 4 of Mark's Jose amps and they all 4 sound different. Wonder which one Mark's Jose circuits the Cloning Crew has decided to copy? Not a lot of achievement to be proud of, if you ask me.

Whatever spec was grabbed out of one particular mod somebody allowed them to blueprint, I'd guess... Gonna be hit or miss depending on what state the amp is in that is being modded vs. the blueprinted amp. Without Mark's ears it's useless really... Now production amps like what Brad is bringing to market from Mark's designs are a different thing...

BTW - BB says he has Aldrich, Cameron Jose, Friedman... you name it. You can get the mods (down payment) for $29.99 on eBay. YeeHaw!!!

Steve

It would appear that BB has some partners, too.

$29.99 Well, he was the one saying that it costs on $20 in parts for the mods.

I am sure a Blaze Hoser (Blozer) will show up in the classifieds soon. "Sounds just like Mark's

Funny shit.....

 

[Zachman]

I own 4 of Mark's Jose amps and they all 4 sound different. Wonder which one Mark's Jose circuits the Cloning Crew has decided to copy? Not a lot of achievement to be proud of, if you ask me.

Whatever spec was grabbed out of one particular mod somebody allowed them to blueprint, I'd guess... Gonna be hit or miss depending on what state the amp is in that is being modded vs. the blueprinted amp. Without Mark's ears it's useless really... Now production amps like what Brad is bringing to market from Mark's designs are a different thing...

BTW - BB says he has Aldrich, Cameron Jose, Friedman... you name it. You can get the mods (down payment) for $29.99 on eBay. YeeHaw!!!

Steve

It would appear Ol' BB has some partners, too.

Here is a conversation I had w/ him at the Marshall forum:

I am not now, nor have I ever been associated with Mark Cameron or the Cameron Amplification company, in ANY way, other than being a happy customer, who utilizes several of the products-- among others.

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Originally Posted by Billyblades View Post
I love amps!
zach ,, I dont know who you are,,, I never paid you a dime for anything.
Mark called me,,,not you.
You are invisable except for your taunts!
So,,, you got a guy on every forum hyping this amp
I told Mark what was up.
He made a decision,,, then my actions was based on his actions.
And,,,
Brad has contradicted.himself many times on public forums.
First about george building the amps,,,then sending them to cameron to mod
False
Look at how many people sounded off Bout the atomica not sounding like a cameron amp.
Cameron signs all his work,,, lets see the pictures of his signature on amps that were shipped out.
Oh thats right,,, after I said that Brad said he fired Mark.
But hey,,, didnt brad say online that he didnt buy the cameron name just a few weeis ago?
How did he fire a guy from his own company?
THIS IS ALL CACHED ON GOOGLE MAN!
ENOUGH ALLREADY!
GIVE ME A REPLACEMENT OR STFU N DEAL WITH IT!

IM A FAMILY MAN ,, NOT SOME KID!
YOUR FRIEND/OR BUSINESS PARTNER TOOK MY amp.
You guys are DOCUMENTED LIARS.
ANYBODY WITH A BRAIN CAN SEE YOUR MASSIVE SPIN DOCTOR CAMPAIGN!

I GET MY AMP,, I GO AWAY,,,EVERYBODY HAPPY,,, YOU GUYS DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

A WORKING MAN RAISING A FAMILY ,,, WHO PATRONISED YOUR BUSINESS,,,DOESNT DESERVE THIS TREATMENT.
I WAS YOUR CUSTOMER FOR LIFE UNTIL YOU GUYS MADE ME AN ADVERSARY.

All it would of took was some understanding and will to comply with my request for replacement.

The orIginal atomica was said to be a clone of the evh amp,,, all evh sound,,, nodiodes,,, no master. I have people in tye know telling me this.
They are even videoed with cameron n very close to the "behind the scenes"!

Hey if you guys dont send me my amp,,, do I get the "no amp for you "
Tee shirt?

You guys got a long "documented" history of non performance.
The Attorney General of california and the better business bureu mightbe able to help.
I have/ had-- a Cameron modded 3 channel SL, a Cameron modded Jose HG SLP, a Cameron modded JTM45, have played the original Cameron CCV's, as well as a couple of his modded amps when partying together at a few NAMM shows back (a while back) before he had his booth at NAMM several years ago, as well as at his booth, and at after parties at Tone Merchants etc...

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Quote: Zachman

I currently own the Atomica prototype/NAMM amp, and can tell you it sounds and feels like a Cameron to me. I personally couldn't care ANY less, about the nomenclature. Amps are tools to me. They either do what I want, or they don't. I choose based on performance, not labels.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
I told mark whats up, we called fedex with him on the phone?
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Quote: Zachman
For some reason, you seem to associate Mark Cameron -the person, to the Cameron Amplification company, owned and operated by Brad King.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
Obviously youre linked to this in some way,,, either browneye points lol
Or profit?
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Quote: Zachman
Neither is true.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
So what is it?
Why r you up my ass?
Im dying to know : )
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Quote: Zachman
Your intentional campaign to associate Cameron Amplification w/ a deal that you had with the person, Mark Cameron-- seems to be unjustly attacking Brad King, imo.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
You a proud member of the browneye bunch?
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Quote: Zachman
Not sure what that means. I do not own a Friedman amp, nor have I--however I have considered them.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
Mark had his chance to work it out. You n I both know he doesnt do shit.

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Quote: zachman
Mark designed several circuits, and licensed Brad to manufacture them. Not sure what your point there is, but whatever...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
And brad lied to people saying it will be modded vy cameron!
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Quote: Zachman

Source? Link? No, he didn't. That doesn't even make sense. It was Mark's design. Why would he need to mod it?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
I havw peoplw on rigtalk in contact with me right as we soeak!
They are sympathetic to my case!
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Quote: Zachman

I am too.

I just don't think Brad "owes" you. I think Mark Cameron does. I think you lashing out against Brad and his company, Cameron Amplification, is misdirected frustration, on your part.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
Tell brad all I want is my replacement and I will go away.
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Quote: Zachman
I am not your errand boy. You've already spoken to Brad. And... He has replied. If you feel the need to discuss things with Brad, feel free. I have no dog in that race.
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Aceofspades wrote:
I've yet to see a direct response to this below. Something tells me we never will. Don't address it for me, do it for the others that wait for owed amps.


"What several people did confirm (and Brad never disputed) is that Mark gets a percentage of on-going profit or whatever. Since Brad admits that he doesn't know where Mark is, it still doesn't diminish or take away any of Mark's owed compensation. Since nothing is being paid to Mark, why can't 100% of Mark's owed money be put to his debts and to be used for the owed CCV's ...at build cost? Sure Brad is helping us, but it's not costing him anything financially at all! It's coming all from Mark Cameron".
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King Guitar wrote:

My business deals are none of your business my friend. You have no contract with me and I owe you nothing. Safe to say we have council and everything is done by the book. The contract with Mark was very specific and had remedies if he breeched the agreement. Thats all you get, both literality and figuratively so once again good luck being made whole by Mark Cameron. BTW the window has also closed on me wanting to take a call from you. Your position of not wanting to ID yourself here so you can still line up down the road for goodwill is laughable.

Your Out my man. Im a rescue swimmer and your pulling everyone else under the water trying to save your own ass. Guess what, we will let you drown and try to help the ones we can with the resources at hand.

That is all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
But I have every right in the world to protest!
All my experiences are true.
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Quote: Zachman

I agree. However-- you're knowingly targeting the WRONG guy, and that just isn't right. No matter how you slice it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyblades
I never even heard of you?
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Quote: Zachman

Nor I-- you. I have been on the boards since '99. You make some pretty big claims, and so-- I'd just like to decide for myself, if they are true. Credibility is earned, not demanded-- so I figure you now have an opportunity to show everyone how you can walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

Some clips, pics, video, documentation??? Anything?? to substantiate your claims of modding/manufacturing the Cameron Atomica, CCV, Mini, Old Bitch, etc... at the price point mentioned, would be greatly appreciated.

 

[metalmaniac93]

Zach, I was just reading that about an hour ago!!! This guy is a wanker!!!

 

[jcj]

From this day forward I will be referring to Mark C. as "Kaiser Soze"...the myths surrounding the guy are fucking epic

 

[Zachman]

Zach, I was just reading that about an hour ago!!! This guy is a wanker!!!

I feel for his situation. I just don't agree w/ his tactics, nor ethics- attacking upstanding members of the community. The only clip I heard of an amp that he's supposedly modded, didn't sound like a Cameron to me.

I hope he is able to work it out w/ Mark, and/or Brad-- but either way, if he intends to get in the amp tech arena-- his tactics could stand some modification since this guy-- is into modifying stuff, I would say he should start there.

 

[jcj]

Zach, I was just reading that about an hour ago!!! This guy is a wanker!!!

I feel for his situation. I just don't agree w/ his tactics, nor ethics- attacking upstanding members of the community. The only clip I heard of an amp that he's supposedly modded, didn't sound like a Cameron to me.

I hope he is able to work it out w/ Mark, and/or Brad-- but either way, if he intends to get in the amp tech arena-- his tactics could stand some modification since this guy-- is into modifying stuff, I would say he should start there.

Really? I don't believe him for a second....I think he picked a plausible story (due to known Cameron drama), and chose to use it to promote his business (or extort an amp).

Zero credibility, in my book. Absolutely none.

 

[Zachman]

Zach, I was just reading that about an hour ago!!! This guy is a wanker!!!

I feel for his situation. I just don't agree w/ his tactics, nor ethics- attacking upstanding members of the community. The only clip I heard of an amp that he's supposedly modded, didn't sound like a Cameron to me.

I hope he is able to work it out w/ Mark, and/or Brad-- but either way, if he intends to get in the amp tech arena-- his tactics could stand some modification since this guy-- is into modifying stuff, I would say he should start there.

Really? I don't believe him for a second....I think he picked a plausible story (due to known Cameron drama), and chose to use it to promote his business (or extort an amp).

Zero credibility, in my book. Absolutely none.

I hear what you're saying, and his claims may or may not be true. I don't know, because he hasn't put forth any "Evidence" to support the basis for a claim. I do feel for those who do indeed, find themselves in the situation which he depicts.

I agree as far as credibility. The one clip I have seen/heard sounded good (bad recording quality, but still), didn't sound like a Cameron to me.

 

[metalmaniac93]

Zach, I was just reading that about an hour ago!!! This guy is a wanker!!!

I feel for his situation. I just don't agree w/ his tactics, nor ethics- attacking upstanding members of the community. The only clip I heard of an amp that he's supposedly modded, didn't sound like a Cameron to me.

I hope he is able to work it out w/ Mark, and/or Brad-- but either way, if he intends to get in the amp tech arena-- his tactics could stand some modification since this guy-- is into modifying stuff, I would say he should start there.

I also feel for his situation, but he making himself look bad instead of acting like a man dealing with his loss and moving on!!! I would be uber pissed if this happened to me, but he is not the only one that got screwed. I just wish he would move on and stop attacking people like Brad or Dave who have nothing to do with screwing him over. I do not get how he thinks what he is doing would promote his business I do give him credit for trying to design and mod his own amps!!! I would never have the balls or brains to do that. I leave that up to the people who have the talent to do this kind of work. I just play!!!

And his mod definitely did not sound like a Cameron, Friedman, or any of the other modified amps!!! But at least he is trying!!!

 

[King Guitar]

Brad has contradicted.himself many times on public forums.
First about george building the amps,,,then sending them to cameron to mod

Never said this, we never sent Mark any of the Amps George built to mod, that makes no sense, Mark sat down and designed the mod to begin with and then spoke with Dave Friedman and George about it. Then we made the amps and shipped them from Michigan. WTF would we send finished amps back to Mark to Mod?

Look at how many people sounded off Bout the atomica not sounding like a cameron amp.

Only heard one guy say this and he has a agenda in saying it.

EVery Cameron signs all his work,,, lets see the pictures of his signature on amps that were shipped out.

Not true at All, lots of Camerons Mods Mark forgot to sign, I am the one who kept reminding him to sign the first run ccv's as he would forget or not have a sharpie and I would take it back to him. Thats when we ALL decided to have George at Metro build them and streamline the process. The only reason Mark had to work on the first run CCV's was the shop building them (Barrang) could only get them 90% done and then Mark needed to finish them which was a disaster for us as we had to babysit each amp to get it done (You have no idea!) We knew we could not do that anymore as Mark would not be touching each one. (which was never our biz model) he was to design the amp and then we have it built end of story.

Oh thats right,,, after I said that Brad said he fired Mark.

I never said I fired Mark, I said Mark said it wasn't working for him and he needed to find something else to do then he disappeared. He never worked for me and certainly did not fire him.

But hey,,, didnt brad say online that he didnt buy the cameron name just a few weeis ago?
How did he fire a guy from his own company?

Mark has nothing to do with the new Cameron Amplifiers, never has. He was a 3rd party 1099'd designer. He signed over his designs to us so we could produce the amps because he had no ability to do so. We were never IN business with him and it was NOT his company.

 

[jcj]

Yeah man, I feel for those people too, I just don't believe he's one of them.

 

[glip22]

From this day forward I will be referring to Mark C. as "Kaiser Soze"...the myths surrounding the guy are fucking epic

That movie was awesome. Usual Suspects. Watched it like six times. Sure is allot of nonsense around Mark. Four mods and the CCV debacle that Brad will make good on.