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Mesa tubes are just rebranded tubes that they have tested and they are pop in replacements for Mesa amps. Not rocket science; you pay for the fact that they are tested and fit within safe bias range in any Mesa amp. I have 6 Mesa STR 415s in my C+ Coli. They sound amazing. I also have Sylvania STR 387s, and Peavey branded 6L6s which are the same as the Mesa 415s. They all come in in the low 30ma range and are no different than the 415s. The vintage Mesa 416s that they have are just Siemens EL34s...I have a dozen of them and they are killer in my Marshall. As good as any vintage Mullard. But anyone can buy NOS or even used Sylvania 6L6GC or Siemens EL34s and as long as the circuit has the ability to adjust bias they will sound just as good as a Mesa labeled tube.Markedman":3uqei2vy said:I haven't found a better set of tubes than MESA/Boogie tubes for my MESA/Boogie amps. I'm not sure how they'd sound in other amps but I've tried other tubes and they sounded either dull or fuzzy. MESA has a stash of good tubes, you just have to ask and have the cash.
swamptrashstompboxes":akzlozqf said:Mullard VOS in a few pres, RCA and GE 6L6's in my old fenders. I have some =C= EL34's here and there. I have a VOS Telefunken tucked away some where. a handful of JAN's throughout.
Other than that the common stuff is either Sovtek LPS in PI's, JJ's in most. Tung-Sol new prodion in some V1 slots. Sylvetana EL34's on occasion. JJ E34L's, JJ KT88's, JJ 6L6's in some. JJ for rectifier tubes. a handful of NOS 12AT7's around (cheaper than the 12AX7's)
311splawndude":k8af5noy said:dinmonster - why do I get the feeling like you are trying to sell us something? Can you just come out with it already![]()
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swamptrashstompboxes":k8af5noy said:Mullard VOS in a few pres, RCA and GE 6L6's in my old fenders. I have some =C= EL34's here and there. I have a VOS Telefunken tucked away some where. a handful of JAN's throughout.
Other than that the common stuff is either Sovtek LPS in PI's, JJ's in most. Tung-Sol new prodion in some V1 slots. Sylvetana EL34's on occasion. JJ E34L's, JJ KT88's, JJ 6L6's in some. JJ for rectifier tubes. a handful of NOS 12AT7's around (cheaper than the 12AX7's)
This is pretty much where I'm at.
Really dig my SED =C= but probably won't drop major cash on them in the future.
Love my JJs
Love my JAN Phillips 5751
Mullard EL34s
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Dinmonster":uynkvp5w said:LOVE THIS SHIT!
WAIT! Whats that BLUE SHIT GLOWING IN THERE????![]()
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Dinmonster":1vd1d27w said:Thanks for the comments...Much better replies from you cats then from the TOASTER DRIVERS on my other post...touchy feelings...awww
Racerxrated":2vowg1oa said:I have and use:
Winged C EL34s
Vintage Mullard EL34s
Siemens EL34s
GT EL34LS-similar to the JJ EL34L but with larger heat wings, these kill in a Wizard and sound as good as the Siemens in the MC I had.
Mesa STR 415 (6L6GC)
Sylvania STR 387 (6L6GC)
GE 6550s
Sylvania 6CA7s
MANY different Pre tubes: Chinese 6n4, Bs, Tungsrams, Ei, GE, RCA, Mullard, Amperex, Telefunken, and some I'm forgetting. These are all vintage, the Chinese are NOS. All sound killer and have a detail to the tone that I don't hear with modern production tubes.
Racerxrated":22us6rel said:I'd rank the 6550s as:
1. GE 6550
2. Winged C 6550
3. Tung Sol 6550
I've almost bought used GEs for around 50 per tube, not sure what they are running these days. My new tube fun are Sylvania 6CA7s, I've found a few used pairs that are very close to being matched and I'm really enjoying them in my 2204. Like some say, they remind me of my Sylvania 6L6s and what they do with my C+ Coli, really adds something that wasn't there before even with the Winged C EL34s that came with it.
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That's a good price, I'd go get em. When I bought my first C+, it sounded really great with the Mesa 440s...then I read about the magical Sylvania 6L6GC...I bought a few RCA branded Sylvania 6L6GC and got really lucky with the both of them biasing up right in Mesa range at 32 or so....my first chord with these tubes was unreal, just an absolute eargasm..that's when I knew the USA tube legend was real.Price":2ekialbm said:Racerxrated":2ekialbm said:I'd rank the 6550s as:
1. GE 6550
2. Winged C 6550
3. Tung Sol 6550
I've almost bought used GEs for around 50 per tube, not sure what they are running these days. My new tube fun are Sylvania 6CA7s, I've found a few used pairs that are very close to being matched and I'm really enjoying them in my 2204. Like some say, they remind me of my Sylvania 6L6s and what they do with my C+ Coli, really adds something that wasn't there before even with the Winged C EL34s that came with it.
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Maybe I should just go with the GEs! There's a tested new matched pair for 150 on fleabay, prices range from 75 to 100 per. If they last as long as some people say they do, that alone might make them a worthwhile investment.
There's definitely something about the tone of American tubes that's hard to put into words, particularly the "upper mid swirl." I wouldn't know how else to describe that time-dependent harmonic shift other than as a swirl. Somewhere, there's a really interesting hifi thread of a bunch of audiophiles discussing exactly what the "swirl" is and what causes it. Of course, I can't find it now![]()
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