The Traveller
Member
What kind of pickup? For humbucker, the usual value is .022 microfarad, such as these:
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/produc ... -Bass.html
For single coil, the usual value is .047 microfarad, like these:
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/produc ... -Bass.html
A happy medium would be these:
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/produc ... -Bass.html
But really there are no set in stone rules. You aren't going to break anything by putting a .047 on a humbucker or vice versa. It just changes how much treble is bled off with the tone knob.
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/produc ... -Bass.html
For single coil, the usual value is .047 microfarad, like these:
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/produc ... -Bass.html
A happy medium would be these:
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/produc ... -Bass.html
But really there are no set in stone rules. You aren't going to break anything by putting a .047 on a humbucker or vice versa. It just changes how much treble is bled off with the tone knob.
slaveunit
Member
Since he said vol pot I think he means an actual treble bleed circuit? I think the above is referring to rolling off on a tone pot.
dstroud
Well-known member
To me the .001 is too much, gets very bright. I usually go for a 680 to 800 pico farad. And actually fyi that bleed cap will affect your tone even when your volume is all the way up. it's slight but it's there. I actually use a mini toggle to take it in and out depending if I want it in the circuit or not.
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marcus262
Member
Hi,
I tried with only 1nf cap on volume pot lugs (humbucker bridge), and it is too bright when you lower your volume, messes up the eq.
So for optimum result I use 1nf cap in paralel with 220k resistor (Duncan modified). Gives you even eq response and you don't lose any frequency.
Kinman and 50's wiring shift the eq a lot compared to Duncan.
Great info with freq charts, and all kinds of treble bleed circuits here:
http://guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/5317
I tried with only 1nf cap on volume pot lugs (humbucker bridge), and it is too bright when you lower your volume, messes up the eq.
So for optimum result I use 1nf cap in paralel with 220k resistor (Duncan modified). Gives you even eq response and you don't lose any frequency.
Kinman and 50's wiring shift the eq a lot compared to Duncan.
Great info with freq charts, and all kinds of treble bleed circuits here:
http://guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/5317
LP Freak
Well-known member
Those treble bleeds sound like cocka
Dopethrone
Active member
dstroud":37yxp0ez said:
I even go down to 400-600 pf depending on the guitar and pickup.
Great idea to put it on a push pull pot too!
dstroud
Well-known member
LP Freak":24uvb9zp said:
just curious - why don't you like them? I find them extremely helpful in getting a nice clean tone with a single channel dirty amp. But I don't like them all the time, depending on what I'm doing.
dstroud
Well-known member
Dopethrone":3srlq0zp said:
yeah I think all mine are 680pf. But I don't like it much on the bridge - that's usually when I take it out of the circuit.
LP Freak
Well-known member
I just prefer 50's wiring. Every value cap I tried always seemed to thin out my LP too much. If you guys dig it more power to you.dstroud":z1ppb9sb said:
dstroud
Well-known member
LP Freak":1w0z2t5k said:I just prefer 50's wiring. Every value cap I tried always seemed to thin out my LP too much. If you guys dig it more power to you.dstroud":1w0z2t5k said:
cool, I'm not familiar with 50's wiring. I'll have to see what that does!
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guitarobert
Member
I'm a big fan of treble bleeds. Can't stand how the tone darkens otherwise when rolling back the volume. I've only tried one circuit but will try to dig it up and post I here. It's probably one of the above. Looked like the Duncan but the values may have been different.
Mr. Willy
Well-known member
Sorry I didn't mention, this is going to be for a humbucker in the bridge position. I just want to keep clarity in the high end when I roll down the volume. I work the volume a lot.
Mr. Willy
Well-known member
guitarobert":1vylpzv2 said:
This is exactly the scenario I'm talking about.
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gibsonash
Active member
No need treeble bleed if you go 50' wiring and good pots as Gotoh or bourns . i prefer Gotoh ...Mr. Willy":oiruv873 said:
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paulyc
Well-known member
I have a .001 on one of my guitars and I hate it...need to take it out.
midnightlaundry
Well-known member
50's wiring all the way. Treble bleed sound terrible to me. You can use your existing pots. No need to go crazy unless you want to.
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guitarobert
Member
Great information! I've been using the circuit posted below. It's a .001uF capacitor in parallel with a 150K resistor. On that link above he also concludes that this is a good compromise, using the 150K resistor instead of his original value in the Duncan configuration. I haven't tried any other treble bleeds than this one, but it has worked out well.marcus262":1u7uu7fx said:
http://www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and_...esistors/Golden_Age_Treble_Bleed_Circuit.html
Mr. Willy
Well-known member
Interesting. I've heard of 50's wiring. Need to look into it. Thanks for the info.
audiomidijace
New member
Let me ask this to confuse matters; I don't have any tone knobs on my guitar. Only a volume knob. I've found some bridge humbuckers to be too bright. I changed to a 250K pot and that sounds pretty good to me. I'm more concerned about my tone with the volume on full, than when I lower the volume. Does everything above still apply or do you have different advice for me?