Who still uses a 5150/6505 around here.........

[glpg80]

start slamming anyone that opposes your point of view,
well it kinda makes you look just a little underdeveloped and foolish

you need to re-read this for a second.

as for your sloppy playing statement - dude news flash - 5150's hide nothing. if you are slamming the front end as well as the effects loop with a bunch of useless effects, THAT that will cover your mistakes, not the amplifier. 5150 is based of the SLO 100 - one of the most sought after transparent non-forgiving amplifiers on the face of the earth. i have played both at volume and can tell, you either have no clue how to dial a 5150 or have never cranked one past 4 your entire life.

you are allowed your opinion as am i. but the reason the 5150 is a staple for so many genre's is not because its "a one trick pony" - it is all highly dependent on the player.

facts are facts - disagree with them all you want.

hell look at mailman. owned more guitars and amplifiers than everyone on this forum combined. what did he land on? a 5150.

 

[glpg80]

It does lead tones very well.

i agree - its lead tones are amazing, one of the reasons i purchased one. its one trick? just one of its many tricks.

Super-duper compressed lead tones. The high compression creates a lot of hiss.

no doubt 5150's are noisy bastards. high compression does not create a lot of hiss, build quality and the gain does. turn the gain back.

Between the compression and noise, it can hide a lot of sloppy playing.

quit using alot of effects and learn how to dial in an amplifier above TV volume

The clean channel is unremarkable.

5150 cleans lack without proper tube choice and knowledge how to use your guitar's volume pot. you havent mastered one or the other, or both? 5150's have never been known for their cleans, but they get the job done in a channel switching application. it also has its own vibe - nothing marshally or vox or fender about it which is what i like the most

But as soon as you get out of that area of tone, there are so many other amps that are more versatile and can do so many other tones far better,
and actually have a decent clean channel.

better is opinionated. different is factual. as far as your clean comment, see above.

The 5150 IMO was a great design in it's time.

i disagree - stock marshalls were great in their time, still great now actually. there is a reason so many people still use and own 5150's today. granted it was indeed designed 20 years ago, the fact people still use them today proves it was a great design then and a great design today.

But as I originally said, time and technology and amp designs move forward, and on another day I had another epiphany of tone when I discovered there
are tighter, meaner, cleaner amps out there that force you to play at a higher level because you can hear every note and every unintentional pick sound or mis-fretted string.

i suggest you play a 5150 II. just suggesting

But to say it's the most awesome thing ever, and to start slamming anyone that opposes your point of view,
well it kinda makes you look just a little underdeveloped and foolish.

i dont slam anyone that opposes anything. its the fact your opinions are so much unlike so many other opinions that it makes me question why you came to that conclusion in the first place, and it all comes back to the player.

i used my 5150 block letter and 5150 II when i owned them both interchangeably for blues, classic rock, progressive/hair metal, and they are even capable of early 60's late 70's tones and music as well.

it may not be the exact amplifier's X person used for that time period, but to say that the 5150 is a one trick pony clearly shows you would rather drag a 5150 through the dirt and spend three times as much on a name brand amplifier before learning how to become a better more versatile player.

 

[TeleBlaster]

Wow, slow down on the Monster drinks, son....

Again with all the personal attacks.....

Not at all going to continue this pissing match.
Your statements, esp regarding noise, hiss and compression reveal much of your lack of knowledge, as much as your constant insults show me you are incapable of a productive exchange of ideas.

FWI - most of my playing is done to crowds in the 400 - 1000 range, and I rarely ever practice at home through an amp, and I don't own a TV.
I use as little effects as possible, they are sort of a necessary evil, and I'm constantly on the vol pot.

In this environment was where the 5150 had a few annoying characteristics. At stage volumes, you had to click it over to the Rhythm channel after every song or use a noise gate, but a gate doesn't quiet the obnoxious cranked Lead channel idle noise, and I never really found a gate I like anyway.

Makes you wonder how in the world they sell Diezels at 4 grand a pop when you can get the Second Coming at 1/10 of that price??
I dunno.
I've learned exactly nothing from performing live for over 25 years.
I'm completely clueless.
The whole world is crazy and you alone are sane.
I wish one day to be as awesome as yourself, it's a worthy goal for anyone.

 

[JakeAC5253]

TeleBlaster, don't know if you still own your 5150, but if you do you could try the pin 6 and 7 cap mod from Dave's thread. It really killed a ton of hiss and unnecessary noise. It's less noise more tone now. Probably still need to use a noise gate though... but the gain range is more usable and the presence doesn't take your head off.

 

[droptrd]

Let the 5150 GAS begin!!!!

 

[TeleBlaster]

TeleBlaster, don't know if you still own your 5150, but if you do you could try the pin 6 and 7 cap mod from Dave's thread. It really killed a ton of hiss and unnecessary noise. It's less noise more tone now. Probably still need to use a noise gate though... but the gain range is more usable and the presence doesn't take your head off.

Yes, I do want to give those mods a shot. I still use it for some things but I've moved on to a tighter amp for my #1.
Not at all "hating" on the 5150, but to say it's the be all and end all, especially on this forum, is a bit ridiculous!

 

[JakeAC5253]

TeleBlaster, don't know if you still own your 5150, but if you do you could try the pin 6 and 7 cap mod from Dave's thread. It really killed a ton of hiss and unnecessary noise. It's less noise more tone now. Probably still need to use a noise gate though... but the gain range is more usable and the presence doesn't take your head off.

Yes, I do want to give those mods a shot. I still use it for some things but I've moved on to a tighter amp for my #1.
Not at all "hating" on the 5150, but to say it's the be all and end all, especially on this forum, is a bit ridiculous!

I don't really agree totally with either of you, I just don't like arguing on the internet. I don't believe that it's a one trick pony or the answer to everyone's amp woes. It's just an amp just like any other amp out there.

 

[TeleBlaster]

Fair enough.
I lived with it's shortcomings for almost a dozen years before I found something I liked better.
Not at all attacking or hating on anyone. How many guys here have played the same amp day after day for that long?

 

[Inquisitor]

Ive gotten my clean off the lead channel just using a BKP holydiver in the neck volume rolled back. Still hisses to remind you its a high gain amp but DAMN those harmonics are beautiful, Npt a Fender clean, but fuck Fender Clean

 

[Metlupass2]

+1 for a 6505+

I picked it up last year off Craigslist for $425. Too good to pass up. I had a modded 5150 two years ago, but foolishly sold it. Shit I think I paid $400 for the 5150. You can find them cheap if you keep an eye out.

 

[MYLILSS]

Npt a Fender clean, but fuck Fender Clean

thats awesome and my thoughts exactly. i have a sig model 5150 and find myself going back to it all the time. its not the be all end all of amps but it definately has its place in rock/metal

 

[Rushtallica]

It's been a while since I read that mod thread, and I may have missed if the answer's already been posted (and may not need it on my amp), but can any of those mods be done on a 6505+?