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VonBonfire
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You need to start brushing up on your 55 point inspections and please, pack more bit o honeys with my order.
You need to start brushing up on your 55 point inspections and please, pack more bit o honeys with my order.
I can only respect a hoarder if they make money off of it. I'd rather be selling POS old guitars for profit than working down at Exxon too.If you are talking about guys who can barely play, and have a hundred guitars, and keep the prices for vintage stuff ridiculous, I mean yeah I get it.
I can only respect a hoarder if they make money off of it. I'd rather be selling POS old guitars for profit than working down at Exxon too.
At the end of the day it's like watching dudes geek out about a vintage CRESCENT brand crescent wrench. Nice wrench but it's just a bunch of mass produced stuff. I think I'd get more excited about something built to my specs tbh.I don't even respect it - those guitars would be a lot better in the hands of musicians instead of posers
At the end of the day it's like watching dudes geek out about a vintage CRESCENT brand crescent wrench. Nice wrench but it's just a bunch of mass produced stuff. I think I'd get more excited about something built to my specs tbh.
Have a pretty high amount of guitars. If I said the number there would be assumptions made. But I use them, borrow them out, gift them, or move them along quick enough when they aren't holding an inspiration for me. To a lesser degree my actual "collector" status (those with little to rare play time) are heirlooms to me, not art or investments. I don't make money from music but I make a lot of music. Every guitar that I own has made music. I enjoy them and everyone in my family does, mostly. I will be completely deaf soon, so I am enjoying and experiencing everything that I can while I can. Music is my love.
You're advocating for the high collector prices while simultaneously criticizing collectors who drive the prices up though. IME not every vintage instrument is magic anyways. At the end of the day it's just mass produced stuff.I don't think that's really a good comparison, as most of those USA built guitars were built by hand and had defining characteristics that made them different than everything else that was out there.
You're advocating for the high collector prices while simultaneously criticizing collectors who drive the prices up though. IME not every vintage instrument is magic anyways. At the end of the day it's just mass produced stuff.
I feel weird when someone hands me a guitar and expects me to find it amazing just cause it's vintage or custom. I guess I just don't get off on expensive shit unless the tone and playability is there. Now where is the gold hardware and does this have 57 classics in it?![]()
I can relate to this. I don't own any vintage instruments, but I have a few that mean a lot to me. I could honestly sell 75% of my guitars tomorrow and be totally fine, and even though I don't play them enough, I thoroughly enjoy the time I do get with them.
I try to see all sides of things. Sometimes I get a guitar that's a decades old "case queen" and not necessarily because it was well kept, but because it didn't get played. That makes me sad. I don't own a lot of (or at least try to stay away from) fancy guitars, because I'm less inclined to play one or at least feel relaxed enough to play them without worrying about scratching something. Not trying to sandbag my playing over some white glove AAAAAAAAA top.
I'm not talking about a 50s les paul dude, i'm talking about the high quality american guitars from the 80s lol
And even then, i'm talking about them as instruments not as collector pieces. The only reason they are collector pieces is because posers figured out all the actual musicians wanted and played them.
Unless you've played a bunch of golden era BC Riches, late 70s early 80s deans, and Shishkov era Hamers, I don't think you know what you're talking about - unless you're talking about fenders and gibsons from the 50s and 60s, because those are, in fact, pretty overrated
This makes me suspicious as well as sad, because if it wasn't played, that makes me think something was wrong with it LOL
Generally speaking, the really good older guitars are pretty worn down because someone played the shit out of them
Even though still up there $, a lot of the early NJ made BC Riches are close/top tier, imo. Not 100% to the level of handmade pre class axe stuff, but the Rico branded stuff and the "U series" Japanese built/US finished stuff is pretty good and often went through Moser's hands before end user. Would have to go through my mental notes in a sober state (a little wine tonight with dinner) for exactly what was what, but that factory did a lot of the Jackson/Charvel stuff and started Caparison.
Agreed about the sus part, but sometimes they were just stuffed in someone's uncle's closet who had more money than willpowerProbably getting to be a rarer thing as time goes on. Obviously don't have to tell you, but definitely always check them first when possible.