Why does your Average TGP Member and readers/listeners of CNN/MSNBC/NYTimes...... Hate Jewish People and support the Iranian Regime?!?!?!

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Sure there is. If the US doesn't enter the war, the allies lose. Simple as that. You'd be speaking German ( with an Australian accent. )

What a load of BS.....


Um you welcome for saving the world from Nazis/Hitler

Russia was the country that won WWII. Not the US.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Russia was the country that won WWII. Not the US.

You're speaking in half truths again.

Russia was the key player on the eastern front
US led the war in the Pacific and western front
Other European nations (mainly UK) had a hand in early combat.

All were equally responsible for their part, but if the US didn't enter the war, efforts by Russia and UK likely would have fallen apart.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Russia was the country that won WWII. Not the US.

Bullshit.

 

[Findthetone1]

Russia was the country that won WWII. Not the US.

Wow....just, wow.

 

[The~Kid]

Russia was the country that won WWII. Not the US.

Yes yes........ It was the Russians who liberated Normandy France on D-Day sure buddy

 

[The~Kid]

Adolf Mamdani shamelessly defending his Anti-Semitic viewpoints and BS double standards...... He is a Nazi Socialist Communist Democrat just like your average TGP Member

 

[Picasso]

Adolf Mamdani shamelessly defending his Anti-Semitic viewpoints and BS double standards...... He is a Nazi Socialist Communist Democrat just like your average TGP Member

Bernie the old faggot can go fuck himself too.

 

[The~Kid]

You really have gone all in on the Tucker Carlson-Israel grift, haven't you?
There's more than enough to criticize the Israeli government for without having to go full in on the whole conspiracy theory Israel/MOSSAD controls the world nonsense.

Its just batshit crazy nut job lunatic nonsense......

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

You twats should study WWII history before you go saying more stupid, stupid shit.

Hey @The~Kid, Normandy would have been a bloodbath for the Allies if half of the German army wasn't getting its ass kicked in Russia.

Who fought the Germans between Dec 7 1941 and June 6 1944? 911 days. Who? Don't talk to me about bombing raids.

What was the other reason, besides etc that Japan finally surrendered? Russia was about to invade from the north. Japan KNEW the Russians were complete animals who'd slaughter and rape indiscriminately and they'd NEVER return the northern islands of Hokkaido and maybe even Honshu.

Go back to your gay insults. Those you've got down pat. WWII history - you get an F-

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

You're speaking in half truths again.

Russia was the key player on the eastern front
US led the war in the Pacific and western front
Other European nations (mainly UK) had a hand in early combat.

All were equally responsible for their part, but if the US didn't enter the war, efforts by Russia and UK likely would have fallen apart.

I'm not saying the other countries didn't play a part. What I'm saying is Russia did the heavy lifting.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Here's some facts for you all to consider

Leading casualty totals (combined military and civilian) by country:

• • Soviet Union: ~22,000,000 to 27,000,000
  • China: ~15,000,000 to 20,000,000
  • Germany: ~6,900,000 to 8,800,000
  • Poland: ~5,600,000 to 5,800,000
  • Japan: ~2,500,000 to 3,100,000
  • India: ~1,500,000 to 3,000,000
  • Yugoslavia: ~1,000,000 to 1,700,000
  • United States: ~418,500
  • United Kingdom: ~450,700

 

[NoHassle]

Here's some facts for you all to consider

Leading casualty totals (combined military and civilian) by country:

• • Soviet Union: ~22,000,000 to 27,000,000
  • China: ~15,000,000 to 20,000,000
  • Germany: ~6,900,000 to 8,800,000
  • Poland: ~5,600,000 to 5,800,000
  • Japan: ~2,500,000 to 3,100,000
  • India: ~1,500,000 to 3,000,000
  • Yugoslavia: ~1,000,000 to 1,700,000
  • United States: ~418,500
  • United Kingdom: ~450,700

Good luck in this thread...the US saves the entire galaxy and without US the world would implode. Every other country is a loser country and the US is GOD and will ALWAYS be GOD...just ask them.

You can't reason with brainwashed blinkered CULT members.

Being objective, truthful and reasonable is as rare as rocking horse shit in this forum.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

I'm not saying the other countries didn't play a part. What I'm saying is Russia did the heavy lifting.

And many would say the US contributed the most. Fact is there's no hard evidence or expert consensus to actually measure who contributed most.

Here's some facts for you all to consider

Leading casualty totals (combined military and civilian) by country:

• • Soviet Union: ~22,000,000 to 27,000,000
  • China: ~15,000,000 to 20,000,000
  • Germany: ~6,900,000 to 8,800,000
  • Poland: ~5,600,000 to 5,800,000
  • Japan: ~2,500,000 to 3,100,000
  • India: ~1,500,000 to 3,000,000
  • Yugoslavia: ~1,000,000 to 1,700,000
  • United States: ~418,500
  • United Kingdom: ~450,700

Those stats don't show anything other that Russia lost a crap ton of troops. A high number of casualties doesn't equate to doing the heavy lifting.

Here's another meaningless stat for you... In a yougov poll more people think the US contributed the most to defeating Germany in WWII.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Copy pasta for convenience:

Approximately 75–80% of all German military casualties during World War II occurred on the Eastern Front. Historians estimate that about 4 million German soldiers died on the Eastern Front, compared to roughly 1 million on the Western Front. [1, 2]
The vast scale of the war against the Soviet Union resulted in significantly higher casualties, attributed to the sheer size of the front, more intense continuous combat, and fewer opportunities for surrender compared to the West. [1]
Breakdowns from prominent military historian Rüdiger Overmans highlight the staggering difference in these theaters: [1, 2, 3]

• • Eastern Front: Roughly 4 million military deaths, with millions more wounded or captured.
  • Western Front: Approximately 1 million military deaths. [1, 2]

 

[Floyd Eye]

Copy pasta for convenience:

Approximately 75–80% of all German military casualties during World War II occurred on the Eastern Front. Historians estimate that about 4 million German soldiers died on the Eastern Front, compared to roughly 1 million on the Western Front. [1, 2]
The vast scale of the war against the Soviet Union resulted in significantly higher casualties, attributed to the sheer size of the front, more intense continuous combat, and fewer opportunities for surrender compared to the West. [1]
Breakdowns from prominent military historian Rüdiger Overmans highlight the staggering difference in these theaters: [1, 2, 3]

• • Eastern Front: Roughly 4 million military deaths, with millions more wounded or captured.
  • Western Front: Approximately 1 million military deaths. [1, 2]

Of course you completely discount the US soldiers killed, almost ALL of whom enlisted and NONE of whom had anything to worry about from Hitler. Unlike the Russians.

 

[Picasso]

Only a total faggot would say something like “copy pasta”.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Of course you completely discount the US soldiers killed, almost ALL of whom enlisted and NONE of whom had anything to worry about from Hitler. Unlike the Russians.

Nice thought. It has nothing to do with what we were discussing. But, nice thought.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Only a total faggot would say something like “copy pasta”.

Our little stack of flapjacks had a thought. Good boy Lindsay. Good girl too.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Of course you completely discount the US soldiers killed, almost ALL of whom enlisted and NONE of whom had anything to worry about from Hitler. Unlike the Russians.

Of course you do remember that Germany declared war on the US. You do, don't you? Yes?

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Copy pasta for convenience:

Approximately 75–80% of all German military casualties during World War II occurred on the Eastern Front. Historians estimate that about 4 million German soldiers died on the Eastern Front, compared to roughly 1 million on the Western Front. [1, 2]
The vast scale of the war against the Soviet Union resulted in significantly higher casualties, attributed to the sheer size of the front, more intense continuous combat, and fewer opportunities for surrender compared to the West. [1]
Breakdowns from prominent military historian Rüdiger Overmans highlight the staggering difference in these theaters: [1, 2, 3]

• • Eastern Front: Roughly 4 million military deaths, with millions more wounded or captured.
  • Western Front: Approximately 1 million military deaths. [1, 2]

A few more stats for you...

Dependent on the source material

US kill to death ratio: up to 6:1
UK kill to death ratio: up to 4:1
Russia kill to death ratio: up to 1.5:1

I stated the higher estimates given for each country; hence the "up to". By those metrics the US did the heavy lifting and Russia didn't carry their own weight.

Like I already said, there is no consensus on who contributed the most to the war effort. There's no point in trying to argue this. The one thing that is generally agreed upon is if the US didn't enter the war it would have lasted much longer and allied forces would have suffered much heavier losses.